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You are religious! And if you think aren't it's cause you are too damn stupid! That's Author's message.
I'm disappointed, absolutely not recommended read, unless you enjoy contemplating people wallowing in their own nihilism and writing a whole book about it.
I'm disappointed, absolutely not recommended read, unless you enjoy contemplating people wallowing in their own nihilism and writing a whole book about it.
If you've never read any popsci self help books, or even eastern/western philosophy based self help, this will seem novel and entertaining. And good for you. However if you have a background with those you'll see the Peterson says nothing new and is quite derivative. Could be better, could be worse; just not for me, personally. There have been better books written with the same message and topic.
A bit too many examples and cases taken from the bible for my taste. Some interesting ideas mixed in. Ended up skim dipping through the book.
Nikad je nisam u potpunosti završio.. preobimna je i bez mnogo novih informacija.. pogotovo nakon iznimnog slušanja Petersonovih predavanja koja su dostupna online. Ako biste je čitali zbog self helpa, dovoljno je da pročitate pravila i krenete da ih se pridržavate. Ako vam se čita zbog filofozije, bolje je slušati čoveka kako uživo priča o tim temama.
This is my final update (quarter point) for this thing which cannot be called a book. It is a combination of unreadable drivel, nonsense with a lot of repetition, sometimes simplified for the common plebe, sometimes made artificially difficult for the so-called intellectual of the liberal college who is secretly extremely conservative beneath the skin, AND fucking bible studies. No, you are not deep, interesting and complex if you mention 2 or 3 different religions (the really, REALLY popular and well-known aspects of them, of course, like yin-yang and maya) and then return to your safe little haven of Christianity. I am sick of seeing god with a capital G in a fucking psychology book for fuck's sake. I am sick and tired of seeing an ancient, badly put-together book I utterly despise (which I've read, by the way), being quoted and used to exemplify modern issues, desires and disturbances. I am tired of rolling my eyes at how utterly religious pseudo-intellectuals parade as "spiritual". I am aghast at how many people love this book because, as a reader and not a psychologist or expert critic, I can clearly state that this is NOT what a well-written book should be.
It is derivative to the point of madness. It meanders uselessly. I love meandering when it is taken to art-form level and is employed in an amazing speech, but it has no place in a non-fiction novel meant to offer clear and semi-concise answers and suggestions to why a lot of the people are fucked up.
I wanted this book to be misogynistic because I myself am and because I wanted a counter to the new wave feminist cancer out there. It failed to offer that as well. It is lukewarm, it doesn't offend, it does not challenge, it simply states random shit and tries (while failing) to make a logical succession of ideas. It goes from biology to the bible (always!!!), to society, to personal stories about the author's life (I actually enjoyed those) almost aggressively but without passion and without discourse, which makes it very hard to follow.
If you are not a complete and utter moron, you will understand the messages in the book by just reading the titles of the rules themselves and a bit of the introductory section. But then, what is the point of the remaining 400+ pages?
I am not a fan of Peterson, but I am not a hater either. I have listened to most of his speeches and talks before picking up this book. I have successfully debated some of his points with several friends. I don't think the man is stupid or condemnable, but I do think that he is a hypocrite who tries to pander to as large of a demographic as possible while also holding onto his boring, expired, conservative values and beliefs for dear life. Due to the fact that I think that religion is the cancer of the modern world, and by religion I mean ALL fucking religions, no fucks given about how "tame" or "spiritual" or "peaceful" they are, I can't help but groan and moan and roll my eyes when in 2018 we are still trying to fix issues of the new, modern world by referring to what a make-believe god wanted for his make-believe children in a make-believe garden where a make-believe snake with legs messed around the happy make-believe couple. My puke is not make-believe, it is very real.
This should be sold under a completely different category and publishing houses should be honest when pushing this drivel to young people in search of intellectual literature. But then again, publishing houses have no shame or issue in pushing stories of abusive relationships, cheap love triangles, slut shaming and low IQ to teens by masking them in pretty covers and inventing a blurb that would suggest amazing action-adventure novels, so who am I kidding?
This book was good for just one thing: letting me work on a 2000 piece puzzle while listening to a huge amount of modern history presented in pitch-perfect tone INSTEAD of reading it.
It is derivative to the point of madness. It meanders uselessly. I love meandering when it is taken to art-form level and is employed in an amazing speech, but it has no place in a non-fiction novel meant to offer clear and semi-concise answers and suggestions to why a lot of the people are fucked up.
I wanted this book to be misogynistic because I myself am and because I wanted a counter to the new wave feminist cancer out there. It failed to offer that as well. It is lukewarm, it doesn't offend, it does not challenge, it simply states random shit and tries (while failing) to make a logical succession of ideas. It goes from biology to the bible (always!!!), to society, to personal stories about the author's life (I actually enjoyed those) almost aggressively but without passion and without discourse, which makes it very hard to follow.
If you are not a complete and utter moron, you will understand the messages in the book by just reading the titles of the rules themselves and a bit of the introductory section. But then, what is the point of the remaining 400+ pages?
I am not a fan of Peterson, but I am not a hater either. I have listened to most of his speeches and talks before picking up this book. I have successfully debated some of his points with several friends. I don't think the man is stupid or condemnable, but I do think that he is a hypocrite who tries to pander to as large of a demographic as possible while also holding onto his boring, expired, conservative values and beliefs for dear life. Due to the fact that I think that religion is the cancer of the modern world, and by religion I mean ALL fucking religions, no fucks given about how "tame" or "spiritual" or "peaceful" they are, I can't help but groan and moan and roll my eyes when in 2018 we are still trying to fix issues of the new, modern world by referring to what a make-believe god wanted for his make-believe children in a make-believe garden where a make-believe snake with legs messed around the happy make-believe couple. My puke is not make-believe, it is very real.
This should be sold under a completely different category and publishing houses should be honest when pushing this drivel to young people in search of intellectual literature. But then again, publishing houses have no shame or issue in pushing stories of abusive relationships, cheap love triangles, slut shaming and low IQ to teens by masking them in pretty covers and inventing a blurb that would suggest amazing action-adventure novels, so who am I kidding?
This book was good for just one thing: letting me work on a 2000 piece puzzle while listening to a huge amount of modern history presented in pitch-perfect tone INSTEAD of reading it.
My favorite is Rule 6:
Set your house in perfect order before you criticize the world.
We all have to work on ourselves to mediate the deficiencies we recognize.
Set your house in perfect order before you criticize the world.
We all have to work on ourselves to mediate the deficiencies we recognize.
medium-paced
Grāmata kopumā man patika, viena no self-help grāmatām, kuru es varētu ieteikt citiem. Grāmatās dotie noteikumi ir paskaidroti diezgan plaši, no dažādām perspektīvām- personīgās pieredzes, filozofu un rakstnieku darbiem, Bībeles. Principā ja tā aizdomājās šie likumi mums ir zināmi, taču tiek paskaidrota to jēga, varbūt dažreiz šķita, ka mazliet par daudz.
Challenging book, and mind changing book, It challenged my perspective and world view about fiction, religion and some personality traits, a must read and highly recommended,It is definitely the best book I read in 2018 so far.