fifteenthjessica's review
- Plot- or character-driven? Character
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? It's complicated
- Diverse cast of characters? It's complicated
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
3.0
I'm still invested in a lot of the characters, both ones who played a major role in this book and ones who don't play a major role or even appear until later, but reading it when you know a lot of the shocking moves,
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like Bran's fall, the incest, the death of Eddard Stark,Spoiler
Part of the reason I rooted for Viserys Targaryen's death was because I thought after he died, I'd hear less about 13-14 year old Daenerys Targaryen's breasts and nipples.I have heard a lot of people praise his world building, and as an aspiring writer/actual dungeon master who has dabbled in world building her own fantasy settings, Martin's quality is very inconsistent at best. Daenerys spends a lot of time with the Dothraki over the course of five hefty books, but the culture comes off as very one dimensional and most members of it are forgettable. I don't think I'm alone in remembering all Dothraki characters except Khal Drogo exclusively in terms of their relationship to Dany and maybe a name because they are very unimportant. Heck, there's a short paragraph in one of Dany's later chapters that feels like Martin is just dumping the personality of the youngest of her future bloodriders (Aggo? The three of them really blur together) on us in place of letting it unfold naturally as he interacts with Dany. The culture is mostly a combination of raiding and horses, almost to the point of impracticality (how many horses do they keep if they need them for transportation, fighting, clothing, and meat, plus burn horses in the funeral pyres of their leaders so they have a mount in the afterlife? There's a reason real world horseback nomadic cultures usually herd other animals). This is especially bad if you compare them to the equally raiding focused Ironborn, who in later novels are fleshed out through four point of view characters and with a number of memorable side characters that show that not everyone is raiding every waking hour of the day.
Graphic: Emotional abuse, Incest, Physical abuse, Grief, Injury/Injury detail, Misogyny, Murder, Suicidal thoughts, War, Alcoholism, Death, Kidnapping, Pedophilia, Pregnancy, Sexism, Sexual content, Slavery, Adult/minor relationship, Domestic abuse, and Death of parent
Moderate: Racism, Alcohol, Abandonment, Torture, Rape, Injury/Injury detail, and Infertility
Minor: Self harm and Trafficking
madzia's review against another edition
- Plot- or character-driven? Plot
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? Yes
- Diverse cast of characters? Yes
- Flaws of characters a main focus? It's complicated
4.75
Graphic: Blood, Violence, Sexual assault, Sexual content, Sexual harassment, Sexual violence, Toxic relationship, Rape, Pregnancy, Physical abuse, Kidnapping, Emotional abuse, Death of parent, Child death, and Suicidal thoughts
priya_can_read's review
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? It's complicated
- Diverse cast of characters? Yes
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
3.25
Graphic: Sexual violence, Blood, Death, Incest, Sexual assault, Toxic relationship, Violence, War, Adult/minor relationship, Emotional abuse, Grief, Misogyny, Rape, and Sexual content
z4k_cz's review
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? It's complicated
- Loveable characters? It's complicated
- Diverse cast of characters? Yes
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
4.5
Graphic: Genocide, Gore, Misogyny, Violence, Gaslighting, Pedophilia, Sexual assault, Sexual violence, Torture, Child death, Domestic abuse, Incest, Infidelity, Injury/Injury detail, Murder, Sexual harassment, Sexism, Blood, Cursing, Death, Death of parent, Emotional abuse, Physical abuse, and Rape
mindaee's review
- Plot- or character-driven? Plot
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? It's complicated
- Diverse cast of characters? Yes
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
3.0
Graphic: Slavery, Emotional abuse, Gore, Incest, Adult/minor relationship, Cursing, Pregnancy, Rape, Animal death, Sexual violence, Death, Miscarriage, Sexism, Sexual assault, Sexual content, and Violence
minzzi's review against another edition
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? It's complicated
- Loveable characters? It's complicated
- Diverse cast of characters? No
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
3.75
Having said that, I also think that this book was a bit to long and certainly dragged at parts. There were whole chapters comprised of pages of nothing with one tidbit of important information throw in the middle, all POVs suffered from that problem.
I also found some of the charaters just plain annoying. Calelyn and Ned's poor decision making through out the whole story made me so mad. After a certain point, everything that happens of bad in this book can be traced back their shitty choices. And the more you learn about the other characters and how intelligent they are and how deep their scams go, the poor choices of those two only becomes more obvious and infuriating. Also, I didn't really care for Daenerys, mostly she just made me sad. I'm sure she will be one of the important figures in this series, but it's hard to read her story when all of it is just her being sexualy abused and beaten. News flash, being raped doesn't make anyone stronger or more powerful. And for all the people that said her relationship with Drogo was cute and romantic, please point me to what book you read, because clearly it wasn't this one.
On the other hand, I really liked Tyrion, Arya and Jon, they are my favorites for now. Specially the last two, who have the combination of smarts and stubborness that I like. Bran seems to be in the brink of some kinda of magical awakening and I'm all here for it. And, contrary to most of what I have seen online, I didn't dislike Sansa. Sure she has a lot o character development to make, but she is just a scared child that no one bothered to tell about the dangers of the real world.
When it comes to characters who didn't have a POV, I'm very interested in Varys, he seens to have big plans on the works behind everyone's backs. I also loved to hate the Lannisters, except Joffrey, he is just an asshole.
Graphic: Death of parent, Emotional abuse, Gore, Physical abuse, Ableism, Adult/minor relationship, Animal cruelty, Animal death, Infidelity, Kidnapping, Rape, Sexism, Sexual violence, Body horror, Murder, Alcohol, Child death, Death, Incest, Injury/Injury detail, Misogyny, Pregnancy, Sexual content, Slavery, and Violence
thebibliobibuli's review
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? It's complicated
- Diverse cast of characters? Yes
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
4.0
Graphic: Sexual violence, War, Gore, Rape, Injury/Injury detail, Miscarriage, Physical abuse, Pregnancy, Sexual content, Blood, Incest, Slavery, Violence, Death, Death of parent, Murder, Emotional abuse, and Sexual assault
Moderate: Toxic relationship, Misogyny, Vomit, Suicidal thoughts, Grief, Animal death, and Alcohol
uhm_kai's review against another edition
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? No
- Loveable characters? It's complicated
- Diverse cast of characters? Yes
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
4.75
Graphic: Alcoholism, Animal cruelty, Child abuse, Death, Drug abuse, Animal death, Blood, Body horror, Confinement, Emotional abuse, Fire/Fire injury, Gore, Grief, Infidelity, Kidnapping, Murder, Physical abuse, Pedophilia, Pregnancy, Rape, Sexism, Sexual assault, and Slavery
Moderate: Torture, Suicide, Fatphobia, Classism, Abortion, Ableism, Adult/minor relationship, Religious bigotry, Misogyny, and Excrement
annikareads_'s review
- Plot- or character-driven? Plot
- Strong character development? It's complicated
- Loveable characters? Yes
- Diverse cast of characters? No
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
5.0
Graphic: Incest, Sexual harassment, Sexual violence, Rape, War, Sexual assault, Sexism, Murder, Death, Death of parent, and Emotional abuse
Moderate: Injury/Injury detail, Grief, Domestic abuse, and Alcohol
vigil's review against another edition
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? It's complicated
- Diverse cast of characters? Yes
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
4.75
Graphic: Ableism, Alcohol, Alcoholism, Classism, Cursing, Death, Domestic abuse, Violence, Vomit, War, Animal cruelty, Animal death, Body horror, Misogyny, Murder, Pedophilia, Sexual assault, Blood, Bullying, Child abuse, Child death, Confinement, Emotional abuse, Excrement, Fatphobia, Fire/Fire injury, Incest, Infertility, Infidelity, Injury/Injury detail, Mental illness, Physical abuse, Pregnancy, Suicidal thoughts, Terminal illness, Xenophobia, Death of parent, Kidnapping, Miscarriage, Rape, Sexism, Sexual content, Sexual harassment, Sexual violence, and Slavery