Reviews with content warning for Panic attacks/disorders - The Poppy War

Wow. Ok. This was the most violent book I have ever read. I’m on a mission to read all of Kuang’s work now, and I wasn’t prepared because I thought this was fantasy. Oh no…the atrocities in this book have really happened before (Second Sino-Japanese War, Rape of Nanjing). I got nightmares when I read this before bed…

But the story is intensely gripping and Kuang’s writing is incredible as ever, even if the book’s pace speeds up Very quickly after Rin’s training. Each time I thought, No, the situation can’t get any worse… it did … and there’s 2 more books?!? How am I going to cope…

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scholastic_squid's review

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adventurous challenging dark emotional informative mysterious reflective sad tense slow-paced

Plot- or character-driven? A mix
Strong character development? Yes
Loveable characters? It's complicated
Diverse cast of characters? Yes
Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes

3.75

The Poppy Wars - the beginning of the story started out strong with Rin handling business as usual for her foster family when her foster mother breaks the news about her pending engagement. In a panic stricken state, Rin utilizes her connection with her tutor to take the “test” - the test that will determine her fate on whether she married a man twice her age or attends one of the military schools. Getting into the school would secure her future as a soldier not forced into marriage and birth offspring and die. She’d rather die fighting for her country.

The beginning really took me in and I was loving it and the world building. The characters throughout the book as a whole are all memorable with unique personalities however, I began struggling with the story once the school lessons were fairly repetitive. Which fine.. I understand.. but, then when the war breaks out the book took a deep dive into darkness (again ok it’s about war and Chinese history told as fantasy) but damn.. the sudden change of tone to describe what I’m assuming was Nan King’s experience after being written almost like a YA book to incredibly descriptive language about that atrocity? Eek. This book is definitely not YA, but I would say that much of it is written in that style. I think what brought my rating down was the last 1/4th it was just a whine fest to me and didn’t really leave it as a nail biting cliff hanger so like I’m not jazzed about picking up the second book? Also, I would have loved a bibliography of sorts about all the sources she used to help tell her tale.. similar to how The Adventures of Amina Al-Sirafi ended. The author loaded up a chapter telling the reader many of her reference books. Also, I really feel like this book needed a trigger warning page? If I missed it that’s on me I guess but yikes haha there’s a lot that happens.

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fantasynarwhal's review

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adventurous dark sad slow-paced

Plot- or character-driven? Character
Strong character development? It's complicated
Loveable characters? No
Diverse cast of characters? Yes
Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes

3.5

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farosh's review

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4.75

We are introduced to Fang Runin, a war orphan who helps the Fangs at the shop and smuggling Opium. When she has to marry she decides that she'd do about anything if that means she doesn't need to marry some wealthy man thrice her age. She starts studying for the most competitive exam of the country to try and get into the military academy, Sinegard. Of course she gets in after months of torturous studying, just for her to be bullied and excluded for being a peasant, dark-skinned girl from the countryside.

[Characters]
Rin is probably one of the most well-written female fantasy characters I know. She's been perfectly crafted from page one. I felt deeply intertwined with her story, her origin; her every feeling, frustration and wishes from beginning to end. Kuang always made me be able to relate to her or at least understand why Rin is acting the way she does. You can literally follow the evolution of her character and personality and while it hardly was surprising, it is very understandable indeed.

Rin curled her fingers into fists at her sides, suddenly pissed off. True suffering? She had seen her friends stabbed with halberds, shot full of arrows, cut down with swords, burned to death in poisonous fog. She had seen Sinegard go up in flames. She had seen Khurdalain occupied by Federation invaders almost overnight.

"That boy is beyond redemption," said the Woman. "That boy is broken like the rest. But you, you are still pure. You can still be saved."
"I don't want to be saved!" Rin shrieked. "I want power! I want Altan's power! I want to be the most powerful shaman there ever was, so that there is no one i can't save!"

"I taught you better than this." Jiang put a hand on her shoulder. He sounded as if he were pleading. "Didn't I, Rin?"
He could have have helped them. He could have stopped the massacre at Golyn Niis. He could have saved Nezha. But Jiang had hidden. His country had needed him, and he had fled to ensconce himself there, without any regard for those he left behind.
He had abandoned her. He hadn't even said goodbye.
But Altan... Altan had not given up on her. Altan had verbally abused her and hit her, but he had faith in her power. Altan had only ever wanted to make her stronger.
"I'm sorry, sir." she said. "But I have my orders."

Rin grew up a peasant, terrorized and physically abused by terrible, terrible "adoptive parents" who only used her as a free worker. She physically tortured herself to get into the Academy and left behind the little things she knew. She arrived there only to be mentally and physically tortured more, treated like less than human by 99% of the academy. She only has one true friend there. She learns under Jiang, her closest thing to a Mentor and father figure but he abandons her multiple times and is quite unreliable, even if he had good reasons for it. War breaks out and she sees more than half of her class and teachers die, she's forced to continue and when everyone finds out she's Speerly, she's forced to fight under the Cike. Now she's part of one of the most feared and hated races, one of the last two Speerly alive and part of an 8 member crew, hated by everyone else as well. The only other person she now knows there is Nezha, her ex-arch enemy. Nezha dies a tragic death and she has to watch him die, her only remnant of a friend. Altan becomes something close to her tutor as a commander and he's the only person she feels somewhat normal around until Altan breaks under the pressure even more so than before and he physically hurts and torments her too. She has truly no one, until she has to witness an entire genocide happening right in front of her eyes, is abandoned and needs to witness Altan being tortured until they fight for their freedom, just for Altan to sacrifice himself and her almost dying multiple times to end up in the hands of the Phoenix God, where Rin essentially gives up her soul so she can pledge her allegiance to him to end Mugen. If I understand someone turning into a bloodthirsty, mentally unstable and deeply bitter warcriminal, it's Rin.

What makes the story so tragic besides the obvious paragraph above is that the book cleverly highlights that it's her decisions that led to all this. She could have chosen many a times to not follow this path, but she did. It makes sense, it's understandable, but it leaves me asking for all the possibilities, all the alternative futures she could have had. Could she have been happy in any of them, with Nezha, Venka, Altan and the others?

My only critique of the plot:
We got such a well written deep-dive of Rin and Altan's characters and so much geopolitical worldbuilding and warfare, that the relationships between Rin and Altan, Rin and Nezha and Rin and Kitay were a little underdeveloped at times. I wished for a scene where Rin would have been able to *really* talk to Altan about all the trauma that made him up. One scene where she is able to calm him and distract him of all his burdens for some hours. I wished for some scenes where Nezha and Rin get the chance to actually become friends, because like pointed out multiple times; if the circumstances were different, they would have made great friends and fighting partners. I would have wished for scenes where Rin gets to enjoy Sinegard without any prejudice and hate, surrounded by Kitay and more girls. I would have wished for Rin to get some more chances to live without fear and worries and enjoy girlhood, before so much was taken from her and everyone else.

I was scared of the politics and warfare in this book before starting out but I actually enjoyed it a lot. The geopolitics, magic system and spirituality/philosophical topics in the book made pulled off well and the book was filled with many quotes and stories that left me pondering. Jiangs, Altans, Rins, Chagans philosophies and different world-views were wonderfully conflicting and gave way to lots of dialogue that was crafted so well I had to put the story down and re-read them multiple times. The dialogue was so well written that it felt like the individual letters tumbled right out of the page and poured together in front of me. I could hear them scream out of exasperation, cry in pain and lash out in fury every other pages. I felt the tensions, anxiety, rage so vividly as if *I* was Rin in that moment.

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224ok's review

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adventurous challenging dark emotional sad tense medium-paced

Plot- or character-driven? A mix
Strong character development? Yes
Loveable characters? It's complicated
Diverse cast of characters? Yes
Flaws of characters a main focus? It's complicated

4.5

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anniecovr's review

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adventurous dark emotional reflective sad tense fast-paced

Plot- or character-driven? A mix
Strong character development? Yes
Loveable characters? It's complicated
Diverse cast of characters? Yes
Flaws of characters a main focus? It's complicated

5.0

fang runin you will always be my favorite

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mir_frog73's review against another edition

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challenging dark emotional sad tense medium-paced

Plot- or character-driven? A mix
Strong character development? Yes
Loveable characters? It's complicated
Diverse cast of characters? Yes
Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes

5.0

This book man. Chapter 21 has probably the most gruesome account of war I’ve ever read or been told about and the fact that it was based on true events is horrific. I’m naming my bat rin because she’s an icon. Part 1 was incredible I read it in one day, the school setting was so much fun to read and learn about everything. Part 2 felt a little long but the end of part two was very intriguing. I enjoyed the plans and strategies. Part 3 was horrific, I also read it in one day I’ll never get over venka’s dialogue.

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chasinggrace's review against another edition

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dark tense fast-paced

Plot- or character-driven? A mix
Strong character development? Yes
Loveable characters? It's complicated
Diverse cast of characters? Yes
Flaws of characters a main focus? It's complicated

5.0

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