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A Verdade Sobre o Caso Harry Quebert by Joël Dicker, Isabel St. Aubyn
46 reviews
abibliophobic_nerd's review against another edition
adventurous
challenging
dark
mysterious
reflective
tense
slow-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? It's complicated
- Loveable characters? No
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
3.5
Content Warnings
Graphic: Death, Gun violence, Pedophilia, Police brutality, Sexual content, Stalking, Car accident, Emotional abuse, Murder, Suicide attempt, Toxic relationship, Adult/minor relationship, Physical abuse, Mental illness, Sexual assault, and Sexual violence
staghunters's review against another edition
dark
emotional
mysterious
sad
tense
slow-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? No
- Diverse cast of characters? Yes
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
4.0
Not the genre I go to most of the time, but Dicker surely knows how to write a compelling murder mystery.
The first thought that comes to mind is the resemblance with Twin Peaks. Not only in the murder of a teenage girl, but particularly in the focus on the small town and the people in it. As the book progresses and we come to know a bit more about Nola Kellergan, the threads that connect her to various side characters.
Marcus, however, is not a good-natured Dale Cooper. His bloated ego shines through till well into the second act, where an incident confronts him with his fame-seeking nature. Though a change in character is not dramatic, he does improve in smaller ways.
The plot has an interesting structure. The chapters count down instead of up, Marcus' storyline is intercut with scenes that take the place of someone's monologue, and what seems to be the end actually isn't.
The latter is also one of my critiques of the book. It is quite slow-paced for all but the last 2 or 3 chapters. Here, the events really rake up and gain speed. It answers questions, sure, but in my opinion, there were a bit too many rug-pulls. Maybe they will make more sense on a reread.
This certainly made me curious about Dicker's other books.
The first thought that comes to mind is the resemblance with Twin Peaks. Not only in the murder of a teenage girl, but particularly in the focus on the small town and the people in it. As the book progresses and we come to know a bit more about Nola Kellergan, the threads that connect her to various side characters.
Marcus, however, is not a good-natured Dale Cooper. His bloated ego shines through till well into the second act, where an incident confronts him with his fame-seeking nature. Though a change in character is not dramatic, he does improve in smaller ways.
The plot has an interesting structure. The chapters count down instead of up, Marcus' storyline is intercut with scenes that take the place of someone's monologue, and what seems to be the end actually isn't.
The latter is also one of my critiques of the book. It is quite slow-paced for all but the last 2 or 3 chapters. Here, the events really rake up and gain speed. It answers questions, sure, but in my opinion, there were a bit too many rug-pulls. Maybe they will make more sense on a reread.
This certainly made me curious about Dicker's other books.
Content Warnings
Graphic: Murder, Violence, and Adult/minor relationship
Moderate: Sexual content, Suicide attempt, and Domestic abuse
Minor: Mental illness and Racism
natelha's review against another edition
dark
mysterious
tense
slow-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? Plot
- Strong character development? No
- Loveable characters? No
- Diverse cast of characters? It's complicated
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
1.5
Eu não sei nem por onde começar o quanto esse livro é ruim então eu vou começar pelo mais obvio: pedofilia.
Não tem outra palavra pra o que o harry fez e isso é problemático pra caralho porque por mais que o livro trate a questão como um tabu, algo mal visto pela sociedade, ele não condena a prática pelo o que ela É: um crime. E sinceramente não me venha com uma conversa de “ai ela tinha 15 anos, não era mais uma menina” ou “ela era madura pra idade dela” ou qualquer coisa do tipo.
O primeiro erro desse livro é ser escrito de uma maneira de que a gente nunca vê a relação do lado da Nola. Ele não mostra direito as dinâmicas de poder entre ela e o Harry e, pra ser bem sincera, a visão que a gente tem dela é bem romantizada e sobre o “male gaze”: todos os sonhos de vida dela estão relacionados ao Harry, durante o verão inteiro o papel dela é cuidar dele, garantir que ele coma e durma e reassegurar ele de que ele é um bom escritor. A única coisa que ela quer por ela mesma é ter um cachorro. Ela se submete a tantas coisas pra fazer o relacionamento dar certo que em certos pontos ela me parecia um personagem tirado de Riverdale ou Pretty Little Liars - adolescentes “superpoderosos”, no sentido de que na vida real só um adulto teria ações dessa maneira e você está “adultizando personagens adolescentes porque 1. vende mais e 2. No caso das séries, os atores são adultos então pegar eles pra fazer coisas que adolescentes fariam mesmo pareceria bobo (compare pretty little liars, gossip girl e riverdale por exemplo com heartstopper, never have I ever e young royals - é dessa diferença das representações da adolescência que eu tô falando - e isso também contribui pra romantização da relação da Nola com o Harry pq quando você vê um adolescente se comportando como adulto você pensa: "ele é um adulto!" Quando na vida real não é isso que está rolando.
Além disso, a Nola tinha traumas e questões mentais que também não são explorados bem pelo livro. Ela incorporava a mãe, o pai e o Harry sabiam e sentiam pena dela, fim da história. Até um exorcismo foi enfiado no meio da história sem consequência relevante pro enredo, totalmente de graça.
Ai tirando isso… o desenvolvimento do livro se você desconsiderar tudo o que está errado é até legal, a ideia desse livro estar corrigindo o primeiro livro, as investigações. O andar da carruagem é bom, mas tudo o que rola no caminho ou é pouco surpreendente ou acaba não tendo muita relevância. Os policiais tendo matado a Nola no final poderia ser uma referência interessante sobre a polícia estado-unidense mas tudo acaba se resolvendo rápido demais (como se o livro tivesse vários crescendinhos ao invés de uma grande crescendo) e… sei lá parece que o autor perde a oportunidade de fazer um ponto forte sobre a corrupção policial.
Mas, por mais "extraordinário" ou "surpreendente" que possa ser… o plot da Nola incorporar a mãe é bem Norman Bates enquanto o Luther é bem Corcunda de Notre Dame (inclusive o tratamento do Luther no livro me incomodou tanto tanto o jeito como o autor escreve as falas dele e o jeito como parece caracterizar ele como "monstro" só desculpei ele cerca de 25% pelo fato dele ter sido o escritor no fim foda-se e sério no fim a única coisa que o Harry fez de verdade foi lutar boxe - que ídolo bosta em Marcus?
E o livro também perde pontos por ser gigante. É ruim o suficiente ele ser ruim, não precisava ser grande também.
Content Warnings
Graphic: Adult/minor relationship
alzyest's review against another edition
emotional
mysterious
sad
medium-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? Character
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? Yes
- Diverse cast of characters? It's complicated
- Flaws of characters a main focus? It's complicated
5.0
Content Warnings
Graphic: Schizophrenia/Psychosis
Moderate: Adult/minor relationship and Death of parent
Minor: Xenophobia, Racism, Suicide attempt, Antisemitism, and Homophobia
btrz7's review against another edition
slow-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? Plot
- Strong character development? No
- Loveable characters? No
- Diverse cast of characters? No
1.5
Don't know what I just read.
I feel like most of the characters were these stereotype/charicature mesh, with absolutely absurd details about some of the side characters. In the end, all of the twists and turns at the end weren't enough to convince me, as I felt it was just taking too long.
I feel like most of the characters were these stereotype/charicature mesh, with absolutely absurd details about some of the side characters. In the end, all of the twists and turns at the end weren't enough to convince me, as I felt it was just taking too long.
Content Warnings
Graphic: Antisemitism, Adult/minor relationship, Child abuse, Death of parent, Mental illness, Murder, Car accident, Death, Grief, Police brutality, Schizophrenia/Psychosis , Suicide attempt, Pedophilia, Self harm, Sexual assault, Child death, and Fire/Fire injury
bibi_08's review against another edition
dark
mysterious
reflective
sad
tense
fast-paced
- Strong character development? No
- Loveable characters? Yes
4.75
Content Warnings
Moderate: Toxic friendship, Violence, Adult/minor relationship, Suicidal thoughts, Self harm, and Murder
jazful's review against another edition
adventurous
challenging
dark
funny
mysterious
reflective
relaxing
tense
medium-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? Plot
- Strong character development? It's complicated
- Loveable characters? It's complicated
- Diverse cast of characters? No
- Flaws of characters a main focus? It's complicated
5.0
I couldn't stop reading! I didn't see all the plot twists coming, although with other mystery novels I actually figure out what it's about very quickly. This book was just completely different. Probably the best mystery novel I've ever read.
Content Warnings
Graphic: Child death, Domestic abuse, Violence, Blood, Death, Death of parent, Gun violence, Physical abuse, Schizophrenia/Psychosis , Stalking, Grief, Mental illness, Police brutality, Murder, and Self harm
Moderate: Gun violence, Kidnapping, Death of parent, Emotional abuse, Sexual assault, Mental illness, Physical abuse, Self harm, Sexism, Toxic friendship, Violence, Domestic abuse, Grief, Adult/minor relationship, Car accident, Sexual violence, Suicidal thoughts, Suicide attempt, Toxic relationship, Child abuse, Death, Fire/Fire injury, and Medical trauma
ging090803's review against another edition
mysterious
reflective
slow-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? No
- Loveable characters? No
- Diverse cast of characters? No
- Flaws of characters a main focus? It's complicated
2.5
I felt terrible giving it only 2 stars that's why I gave the 2.5 stars.
Honestly, I understand the idea. It was a great idea. The plot is good... But oh men, it was so long. I am sure the mysterious death of Nola could have been solved way faster than that. I don't understand why, all book long, we had a suspect then no suspect then too many suspects, etc etc. We were circling around everything for 800 pages. I'm sure I would have loved how it was written (between present and past from the author's POV) normally but not this time. It was only confusing and eternal.
If someone wants a recommendation from me, I will say that there are other great mystery books before this one...
Honestly, I understand the idea. It was a great idea. The plot is good... But oh men, it was so long. I am sure the mysterious death of Nola could have been solved way faster than that. I don't understand why, all book long, we had a suspect then no suspect then too many suspects, etc etc. We were circling around everything for 800 pages. I'm sure I would have loved how it was written (between present and past from the author's POV) normally but not this time. It was only confusing and eternal.
If someone wants a recommendation from me, I will say that there are other great mystery books before this one...
Content Warnings
Graphic: Death
Moderate: Death of parent, Gun violence, Schizophrenia/Psychosis , Physical abuse, Panic attacks/disorders, Murder, Mental illness, Kidnapping, Injury/Injury detail, Child death, Stalking, Self harm, Violence, Alcohol, Adult/minor relationship, Blood, Child abuse, and Suicide attempt
Minor: Car accident and Sexual content
hanyentreletras's review against another edition
adventurous
challenging
mysterious
reflective
tense
medium-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? It's complicated
- Diverse cast of characters? Yes
- Flaws of characters a main focus? No
4.0
Este libro pudo ser de cinco estrellas sino fuese por ese inicio tan... soso y por algunas cosas del final (que por más que son increíbles y sorprendentes, no terminan de cuadrar al 100%). Y eso me molesta un poco.
«Si los escritores son seres tan frágiles, Marcus, es porque pueden conocer dos clases de dolor afectivo, es decir, el doble que los seres humanos normales: las penas de amor y las penas de libro. Escribir un libro es como amar a alguien: puede ser muy doloroso».
Primeramente me enorgullece decir que mis primeros sospechosos fueron los culpables, eso sí, mi teoría del por qué fue la que falló.
Algo que disfruté bastante fue el nacimiento de la amistad entre Marcus y el sargento Gahalowood, ese cariño sarcástico entre ambos 😙🤌
Also quedé maravillada por la estupidez de la gente del pueblo de no agarrar el libro y ver que todo lo que pasaba en él en cierta parte contaba cosas de Nola y Harry (jejejeje🤐🤭).
—¡Por Dios, Nola! ¿Por qué querer morir? —No es querer morir —dijo Nola—. Es no querer seguir viviendo.
feel u Nola.
«Aprenda a amar sus derrotas, Marcus, pues son las que le construirán. Son sus derrotas las que darán sabor a sus victorias».
A lo largo del libro, Harry le da muchos consejos a Marcus, más que todo para escribir pero creo que ellos pueden usarse para la vida en sí, como el anterior.
Antes de la agresión, decía que pintaba porque estaba dentro de él. Cuando se recuperó por fin, decía que pintaba para estar menos solo.
En este libro, todos los personajes que aparecen son importantes. Si bien Luther es alguien raro, la historia de su personaje es preciosa. Es un artista que lo tenía todo y en un segundo, por estar en un mal lugar, lo perdió. Sin embargo, el arte fue lo que lo mantuvo con vida y propósito.
...Un buen libro, Marcus, es un libro que uno se arrepiente de terminar».
Y que final!!!! Fue un torbellino de sorpresas, de incógnitas respondidas desde todas las versiones. Magnífico. Sé que es un buen libro porque, así como Harry le dice a Marcus, no me arrepiento de leerlo.
Acá todos son sospechosos, todo es una hipótesis porque es algo que alguien dijo no un hecho en concreto. El libro abre con la premisa de saber quién mató a Nola pero luego ese punto no importa tanto, solo queremos saber qué pasó ese 30 de agosto y antes y después.
Es un libro que recomendaré mucho y pediré videos cuando lleguen al final jajajs
Content Warnings
Moderate: Sexual assault, Schizophrenia/Psychosis , Police brutality, Murder, Adult/minor relationship, Sexual content, Domestic abuse, Car accident, Suicide attempt, and Stalking
_remi__'s review against another edition
dark
mysterious
medium-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? No
- Loveable characters? No
- Diverse cast of characters? No
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
3.75
Content Warnings
Graphic: Adult/minor relationship, Death, Mental illness, Murder, Pedophilia, Police brutality, and Sexual assault
Moderate: Suicide