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Snow Crash by Neal Stephenson

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flexagoon's review against another edition

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adventurous fast-paced
  • Plot- or character-driven? Plot
  • Strong character development? No
  • Loveable characters? Yes
  • Diverse cast of characters? It's complicated
  • Flaws of characters a main focus? No

4.5

Great book. I'd absolutely recommend Snow Crash to anyone who is interested in cyberpunk, as this book is basically THE original cyberpunk book.

As others said, the ending is a bit lackluster and Deus Ex Machina, but it still didn't leave me disappointed after finishing the book.

The plot itself is confusing at times, but generally really interesting. People who like fast-paced action stories will probably love it. The book also has good worldbuilding.

I didn't really get the "metavirus" stuff but it was still interesting.

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ian_coe's review against another edition

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adventurous medium-paced
  • Plot- or character-driven? A mix
  • Strong character development? No
  • Loveable characters? No
  • Diverse cast of characters? Yes
  • Flaws of characters a main focus? No

1.0

Wildly disappointed in the book, it started off strong with a great setting and characters that should be memorable but the book fails to resolve any of its major plot lines. Leaving one of the two main protagonists in the middle of a precarious situation with no inkling of how they get away from it, and the other watching the last conflict from the sidelines. The book has a multitude of great plot hooks that are utterly forgotten when they become less than convenient to resolve. 

Lastly the coerced intercourse between the 15 year old female protagonist and the violent 30-some odd year old antagonist that the author attempts to describe as a relationship is difficult to get through. 

The book might have been formative to the cyberpunk genre but is certainly not the pinnacle of it. If I could go back and skip it I would. 

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feelsattack's review against another edition

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adventurous dark funny lighthearted medium-paced
  • Plot- or character-driven? Character
  • Strong character development? No
  • Loveable characters? It's complicated
  • Diverse cast of characters? Yes
  • Flaws of characters a main focus? No

0.5

This book............................

Was awful. 

I don't even know where to start, or what to say. I mainly base my ratings on how entertained I was because I don't like being overly analytical and critical--it takes the fun out of reading for me. But I was not entertained, at all. If this book wasn't for book club, I would have dropped it at 20%. Reading this book felt like a chore, and I understand the "first half is setting up, second half is the action," but Stephenson is so boring with it. It was chaotic, difficult to understand, long-winded sentences whose meaning became lost upon me once I reached the period at the end. If someone wanted to understand anarcho-capitalism, this book is the way to do it. It was messy, pure pandemonium and not in a good way, which made reading it a COMPLETE DRAG.

The humour was mediocre. I only found it funny at certain parts, but they were not funny enough to make up for the awfulness of this book.

I literally couldn't care less about the main characters, I literally found Uncle Enzo and Ng to be more interesting than Hiro and Y.T. Raven is so out of place, Stephenson tried to connect him to the plot and make him cool and all, but it just didn't work. He was just... there...

I think the thing that made me the most upset was the info-dump. This wouldn't be concerning to anyone, except that I typically LOVE info-dumps. But I was so annoyed with this book that the info dumps genuinely made me angry. They were incredibly boring, written poorly, not balanced AT ALL. There's a good and proper way to do info dumps and this was NOT IT. 

The only reason I decided to be nice and add a +0.5 to the rating was because of the very few parts that made me laugh in my head a little. If it wasn't for that, I would have given this book a complete 0/5 stars. This book has single-handedly convinced me to avoid Anathem and Seveneves, which previous to reading Snow Crash, I was very excited to one day pick up and read. Not anymore. I don't want to waste my time reading trash science fiction. It's for books like these that I'm glad I use the library and never buy my own books. 

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adventurous dark funny informative mysterious tense medium-paced
  • Plot- or character-driven? Plot
  • Strong character development? It's complicated
  • Loveable characters? Yes
  • Diverse cast of characters? Yes
  • Flaws of characters a main focus? No

4.5


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allegedmusician's review against another edition

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adventurous funny mysterious fast-paced
  • Plot- or character-driven? Plot
  • Strong character development? No
  • Loveable characters? No
  • Diverse cast of characters? Yes
  • Flaws of characters a main focus? No

3.0


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atreenamedjulia's review against another edition

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adventurous challenging dark funny hopeful informative inspiring mysterious reflective tense fast-paced
  • Plot- or character-driven? Plot
  • Strong character development? No
  • Loveable characters? Yes
  • Diverse cast of characters? Yes
  • Flaws of characters a main focus? No

4.25


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mks74354's review against another edition

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adventurous funny medium-paced
  • Plot- or character-driven? Character
  • Strong character development? It's complicated
  • Loveable characters? It's complicated
  • Diverse cast of characters? Yes
  • Flaws of characters a main focus? It's complicated

3.75


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adventurous funny informative medium-paced
  • Plot- or character-driven? Plot
  • Strong character development? No
  • Loveable characters? It's complicated
  • Diverse cast of characters? It's complicated
  • Flaws of characters a main focus? No

3.5

I'm confident in saying that every major element in this book had something about it that I really liked and something that I really disliked.

Worldbuilding
Liked:
The vision. Snow Crash's near-future United States has many of the usual dystopian hallmarks: pollution, a powerless government, religious zealots, hyperinflation, a refugee crisis. One of this world's defining features is that nearly everything in it, from suburban neighborhoods to highways to public restrooms, is privately owned and part of a corporate chain. Many of these chains are owned by criminal organizations (the most prominent in the book being the Sicilian Mafia), religious groups, or the remnants of nation states. The employees of rival organizations openly engage in armed combat with one another. Access to certain locations is impossible unless you're able to pay for entry, qualify for membership, or, in the case of the suburbs, become a full citizen of an exclusive neighborhood. These divisions are enforced by a variety of (also privately owned) security and police forces, as well as a plethora of sci-fi weapons. Is it an America that I would like to live in? Absolutely not. But it is a fascinating read, and it's grounded enough in the realities of modern capitalism to hit a bit close to home.
This segmentation of a formerly open world ties into the book's central theming around the Biblical tale of the Tower of Babel. Instead of separating humans into various languages, as God did by destroying the Biblical Tower, Snow Crash's humanity has segmented itself into enclaves of corporate loyalty. In this torn and shredded world, two potential Towers of Babel rise.
One Tower is the Raft, a massive floating community of refugee boats and pirate ships tethered to an aircraft carrier owned by the Jim Bakker-esque billionaire L. Bob Rife. From here, Rife distributes the drug known as Snow Crash, which hacks into people's brains and forces them to act as loyal drones that speak in tongues.
The other Tower is the Metaverse, an online virtual reality open to anyone who can find a point of access. The quality of one's avatar and the ownership of virtual property is dependent on the user's hacking ability or wealth, but the world is generally open to, and able to be explored by, anyone tech-savvy enough to log on. The problem here is that the Metaverse is only used by a fraction of the population, and the more knowledgeable users are uniquely susceptible to Snow Crash's effects.
These settings are populated by more speculative concepts and fantastic technologies than I could possibly list here, and the imaginative near-future that Neal Stephenson creates is by far the most interesting part of this book.
Disliked: The execution. I went into this book knowing that it would be info-heavy. I'm not opposed to infodumps (I actually often enjoy them), but they have to be done in a way that doesn't halt or impede the rest of the story. This book can be very difficult to read for the first ten-or-so chapters, because a character will take a single action and then there will be pages and pages (sometimes the rest of the chapter) explaining the technologies being used or the origin and structure of the organizations involved. Many of these infodumps include information that isn't relevant at the time or that never becomes relevant, and some of it is downright insulting (I know that all of these numbers are 2 to the power of something; you don't have to tell me every time).
As the main characters gather more information about Snow Crash, the infodumps expand into entire chapters where a character word-vomits about a concept for five to ten pages. Even to me, a person who enjoys learning new but useless things, these chapters are tedious, especially when they occur in the last 75 pages of the book.

Characters
Liked:
Y.T. She's a smart-talking teenage courier trying to make her own way in a harsh world. She's no-nonsense without being try-hard and she doesn't hesitate to smack a creep (until the last third of the book, when the author insists on having her sleep with a middle-aged man, <i>ugh</i>). Under her tough exterior, she has affection for the few close people in her life, especially her overworked mother. And for all of her street smarts, Y.T. is still a teenager in a world run by adults and she has to figure out how to survive when the people in power point their crosshairs in her direction.
Disliked: Pretty much everyone else. The main character is called Hiro Protagonist, and his name is the most interesting thing about him. His personality can be summed up as "cool geek guy." That is to say, he doesn't have a personality at all, but he has several cool skills, like computer programming and katana-wielding, that are supposed to fill the void. He largely exists as the reader's access point to the bulk of the information relevant to the plot, since he's both the Designated Guy Who Explains Things and the Designated Guy People Explain Things To.
Uncle Enzo would be interesting if the book had leaned into the evil underneath the mobster cliche. The Mafia isn't a noble or honorable criminal group and Stephenson missed an opportunity to use a corporatized Mafia as a way to satirize the mainstream Hollywood portrayal. Instead, the book pushes Enzo into a kindly father-figure role for a teenage girl he barely knows and the Mafia organization gets a stereotypical but sanitized portrayal.
There is an attempt to give Raven a tragic backstory to justify him wanting to nuke America, but it just falls flat because...is there even an America anymore? (Maybe that was the point, but it's a poorly made point.) This character is a blunt instrument and it's slimy as hell that the author makes him attracted to (and then "in love" with) a 15-year-old.
The remaining characters -- Juanita, Da5id, various allied goons, various opposing goons -- either existed as tools to move the plot along or weren't around long enough to make an impression.

Story
Liked:
The content and themes. With all of the sci-fi speculation and satire stripped away, Snow Crash is a thriller about a dangerous new drug and the unlikely duo investigating its spread. Instead of a good cop and a bad cop, or an FBI agent and a captured serial killer, the two protagonists are a freelance hacker and a teenage courier. Their equipment is futuristically enhanced, but their goals and actions mirror those of any detective duo: collect intel, interview a handful of involved parties, follow the trail, find the source of the drug, and get into a few gun/sword fights in the process.
This type of premise could normally go either way in terms of quality, and Neal Stephenson elevates it beyond a standard guns-and-drugs story by tying in themes of language (from ancient Sumerian to modern programming), ancient historical and religious theory, and the psychological concept of viral knowledge. Combined with the above-mentioned worldbuilding and this story, for all of its issues in execution, was an amazing read.
Disliked: The writing and pacing. It takes more than two dozen chapters for Hiro Protagonist to start actively investigating Snow Crash and the breadcrumb trail left behind by a murdered man. Some of this is because of the density of the aforementioned infodumps, but some of it is because it takes more than 200 pages for someone to tell Hiro to do something.
It also can't be overstated how the glut of background information pushes relevant story details, both major and minor, off the page. I don't remember reading how Y.T. makes it to The Raft in the latter half of the book. I don't remember what Y.T.'s mom was being questioned for or what bearing that had on the plot. I don't remember how Hiro went from not knowing who Vitaly Chernobyl was to being his roommate and concert promoter. I don't remember why Hiro and Y.T. call each other "pod." Maybe these things are never explained; maybe the explanations got lost in some lengthy description. Either way, the writing emphasizes background information over storytelling, and the story suffers for it.

The Ending
Liked:
Y.T.'s helicopter escape. Cinematic and kickass. An overconfident cult leader brought down (literally and figuratively) by a bunch of teens answering the call of one of their own.
Disliked: Oh god he's still explaining things. The last fifteen to twenty chapters are rough because it feels like the book should be rapidly building toward a climax. But instead of accelerating, the action keeps stopping for more explanations, including explanations of things that were already explained earlier in the book. The worst part is when Hiro and Raven are reciting their fathers' tragic backstories to each other over voice link while they're also doing a high-speed motorcycle chase through the Metaverse.

Bonus
Liked:
Fido, the robot dog who defied his programming to save the nice girl who took care of him. Also, the accompanying philosophical question of whether Fido's virtual fate, along with the largely virtual existence of another character, is truly satisfying.
Disliked: The '90s-era racism and sexism, particularly the sexualization of 15-year-old Y.T., the double standard of how Colombian narcos are portrayed compared to the Mafia, and the bizarre, nerd-culture-specific way that Japanese people are portrayed.

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saturniidae's review against another edition

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dark medium-paced
  • Plot- or character-driven? Plot
  • Strong character development? It's complicated
  • Loveable characters? No
  • Diverse cast of characters? It's complicated
  • Flaws of characters a main focus? It's complicated
this book is uh. Wow.
I'm still not sure if I'm supposed to see Hiro as the incompetent nerd way out of his depth he clearly is or if I'm somehow supposed to think he's actually cool.
The first half of the book does a good job of building the anarcho captialist hellscape that the characters inhabit, but the second half quickly spirals into an incomprehensible mess with muddled themes.
Really exemplifies why silicon valley techbros are how they are, if this book inspired them.

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bites_of_books's review against another edition

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adventurous challenging informative mysterious slow-paced
  • Plot- or character-driven? Plot
  • Strong character development? No
  • Loveable characters? No
  • Diverse cast of characters? Yes
  • Flaws of characters a main focus? N/A

2.5

I wanted to like this book much more but there were simply too many things that didn't do it for me.

The first couple of chapters I really enjoyed. As Stephenson described this futuristic world where corporations are the leaders of the world and where it is better to work for the Mafia than to get an education and try to have a traditional job, I could see how our world could end up like this in a couple of decades. The idea of the Metaverse was also very promising and interesting but unfortunately that never really took off.

Once Stephenson started to try to add too much logic to this futuristic, sci-fi world, it started to fall apart for me. There were chapters where one of the protagonists (called Hiro Protagonist ha) is basically getting a lecture from an AI about religious history, linguistics, and anthropology. Which are very interesting on their own but basically took me way out of the story and made my logic mind show up and be like "this makes zero sense." Then, in the next chapter we are back into exploring more of the ways that this corporation-led world is messed up and following (or trying to follow) the ways that our main characters are trying to solve the mystery of a virus that is affecting hackers but is also a drug in the real world... There's definitely mystery and intrigue but I ended up just wanting to know what was going to happen in order to be done with the book once and for all without really caring much about the main characters.

I am mostly frustrated because Stephenson has some great ideas, some really promising characters, and it all just ended up going nowhere for me. Like Y.T. was a super interesting character, a 15 year old girl who is super independent and wants to live her own life and not follow in her mother's footsteps as a government worker. Meanwhile she's just a means to an end and like that's it? Zero character development for anyone here. Oh and another super interesting character was Ng, a man who is paralyzed and heads one of the best security systems and rides around in a car that's been adapted so he can use it as a wheelchair/transportation/apartment/storage of very cool weapon system. His character was probably the best one who had clear intentions and purpose and I wish we'd had more of him throughout the book (he would have been a great main character!)

So disappointing... I'm not sure I'd want to try another of Stephenson's works, but who knows, maybe if he's done something a bit more cohesive and less all over the place I'll give it a shot.

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