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boxofbees's review
adventurous
dark
reflective
medium-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? It's complicated
- Diverse cast of characters? No
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
3.25
Moderate: Incest and Misogyny
jesshaleth's review against another edition
adventurous
medium-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? Plot
- Strong character development? No
- Loveable characters? It's complicated
- Diverse cast of characters? No
- Flaws of characters a main focus? No
2.25
If he'd managed to rein in the pedophilia a little then it would have just been annoyingly smug rather than leaving a gross taste in my mouth a week later.
Moderate: Misogyny, Pedophilia, and Racism
marmar0326's review against another edition
adventurous
challenging
informative
slow-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? Plot
- Strong character development? No
- Loveable characters? Yes
- Diverse cast of characters? Yes
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
3.5
Graphic: Police brutality and War
Moderate: Misogyny and Racism
Minor: Rape and Murder
a_kt's review
dark
funny
tense
slow-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? Plot
- Strong character development? No
- Loveable characters? It's complicated
- Diverse cast of characters? No
- Flaws of characters a main focus? No
3.0
A grandiose tale about a rag-tag penal colony on the moon getting together to revolt against big Government - whoops I meant the "Federated Nations" on Earth. All so that they can sell wheat for a fair price on the free market-whoops I mean for freedom...
Listen, Robert Heinlein is a bit of a source of internal conflict for me. This is the first work of his I've read in it's entirety, after having listened to the first 2/3 of Stranger in a Strange Land before falling off of it after it gets a little... New-wave religious on you. The Moon is a Harsh Mistress is a helluva ride, packed with all sorts of biting social and economic commentary, Nosferatu-esque technological predictions, and extremely poignant Government criticism. The thing is though..... I don't really... Agree with most of it??
The actual plot of Moon is lacking. The plot revolves around all of the main characters of the book, sorry - main *male* characters of the book discussing why laws are useless, why taxation is theft, why self-reliance is the only true way of life, why government oversight is just a fancy term for blatant corruption, and so on and so forth. It's basically every Facebook talking point your libertarian uncle who is obsessed with Penn and Teller loves anthropomorphized and made into a moon-crimin-revolutionary.
Meanwhile all the *female* characters in the book are very busy... Erm *checks notes*... Being beautiful, ethnically ambiguous, sassy, stubborn yet ignorant props to be talked about by the men. Seriously. One of the main three progenitors of the moon revolution is a woman named Wyoming, who is introduced to the reader by giving an impassioned speech about free will and the need to fight against tyranny, she then spends the entire rest of the book... Just kind of... Being around?? Oh yeah, did I mention this book makes *liberal* use of child brides as a plot point and tries to make it seem like a normal and good thing?????
Parts of this book are baffling. The social commentary is so dated and ham-fisted yet it pats itself on the back *so hard*, it makes the Earth-based government look so unapologetically bad while the main character nonchalantly makes the moon seem like a lawless utopia. There is literally not a shred of nuance to be found anywhere in this book.
All of that being said, I did finish it. So there are parts of this book I did enjoy. I see a lot of people complaining about the strange dialect the main character narrates in, but honestly I found that to be one of most endearing parts of it. The inclusion of the sentient super computer, Mike, was probably the most interesting aspect of the plot, but sadly Mike is only really around for the first and last bits of the book. He is introduced as this interesting (and humorous) concept, and ends up becoming the glue the keeps the revolution together. I liked Mike. I liked some of Mannie's witticisms.
I'd say if you're interested in reading this book, do yourself a favor and read Ursula K. LeGuin's The Dispossessed first (or instead of) to get a much more well thought out description of a real anarchist utopia in contrast with a late-stage capitalist society.
Listen, Robert Heinlein is a bit of a source of internal conflict for me. This is the first work of his I've read in it's entirety, after having listened to the first 2/3 of Stranger in a Strange Land before falling off of it after it gets a little... New-wave religious on you. The Moon is a Harsh Mistress is a helluva ride, packed with all sorts of biting social and economic commentary, Nosferatu-esque technological predictions, and extremely poignant Government criticism. The thing is though..... I don't really... Agree with most of it??
The actual plot of Moon is lacking. The plot revolves around all of the main characters of the book, sorry - main *male* characters of the book discussing why laws are useless, why taxation is theft, why self-reliance is the only true way of life, why government oversight is just a fancy term for blatant corruption, and so on and so forth. It's basically every Facebook talking point your libertarian uncle who is obsessed with Penn and Teller loves anthropomorphized and made into a moon-crimin-revolutionary.
Meanwhile all the *female* characters in the book are very busy... Erm *checks notes*... Being beautiful, ethnically ambiguous, sassy, stubborn yet ignorant props to be talked about by the men. Seriously. One of the main three progenitors of the moon revolution is a woman named Wyoming, who is introduced to the reader by giving an impassioned speech about free will and the need to fight against tyranny, she then spends the entire rest of the book... Just kind of... Being around?? Oh yeah, did I mention this book makes *liberal* use of child brides as a plot point and tries to make it seem like a normal and good thing?????
Parts of this book are baffling. The social commentary is so dated and ham-fisted yet it pats itself on the back *so hard*, it makes the Earth-based government look so unapologetically bad while the main character nonchalantly makes the moon seem like a lawless utopia. There is literally not a shred of nuance to be found anywhere in this book.
All of that being said, I did finish it. So there are parts of this book I did enjoy. I see a lot of people complaining about the strange dialect the main character narrates in, but honestly I found that to be one of most endearing parts of it. The inclusion of the sentient super computer, Mike, was probably the most interesting aspect of the plot, but sadly Mike is only really around for the first and last bits of the book. He is introduced as this interesting (and humorous) concept, and ends up becoming the glue the keeps the revolution together. I liked Mike. I liked some of Mannie's witticisms.
I'd say if you're interested in reading this book, do yourself a favor and read Ursula K. LeGuin's The Dispossessed first (or instead of) to get a much more well thought out description of a real anarchist utopia in contrast with a late-stage capitalist society.
Graphic: Adult/minor relationship, Misogyny, Pedophilia, and Sexism
Moderate: Colonisation and Classism
oneandonlyetet's review
The overt sexism was too much. I enjoyed the setting and the otherwise oft-criticised way the characters speak. But the sexism and misogyny are just too much to ignore.
Graphic: Misogyny and Sexism
belgaer's review against another edition
slow-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? Plot
- Strong character development? No
- Loveable characters? No
- Diverse cast of characters? No
- Flaws of characters a main focus? No
Sucks. Only finished it because I’m reading all the winners of the Hugo for best novel. Never reading anything else by Heinlein again.
Moderate: Misogyny, Pedophilia, Rape, Sexism, Toxic relationship, Police brutality, Sexual harassment, and War
Minor: Infertility, Violence, and Grief
wispy_reviews's review against another edition
adventurous
challenging
funny
reflective
tense
slow-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? Plot
- Strong character development? No
- Loveable characters? It's complicated
- Diverse cast of characters? Yes
- Flaws of characters a main focus? No
2.75
This review is written on my second reading of this book; reading it again was immensely helpful with processing the ideas present, but it sure doesn’t speed up the book at all.
Heinlein loves to preach his own socio-political ideas in the form of science fiction stories, this is no exception and it is very dry for a great majority of it.
I would have preferred more focus on the element(s) of artificial intelligence, which started strong but waned in favor of the political rhetoric.
And, of course, you can’t have classic Sci-Fi without Baked-in misogyny. I swear, women in this book contribute nothing; Heinlein can pedestalize them as much as he wants, preach how wonderful and important and smart they are, but none of these women CONTRIBUTE anything to the political/war plot. Any time they participate it feels like they exist to be corrected by the men in the room.
It’s not the worst book I’ve ever read, and has some surprisingly good jokes and character dialogue, but is bogged down by long stretches of nothing happening.
Heinlein loves to preach his own socio-political ideas in the form of science fiction stories, this is no exception and it is very dry for a great majority of it.
I would have preferred more focus on the element(s) of artificial intelligence, which started strong but waned in favor of the political rhetoric.
And, of course, you can’t have classic Sci-Fi without Baked-in misogyny. I swear, women in this book contribute nothing; Heinlein can pedestalize them as much as he wants, preach how wonderful and important and smart they are, but none of these women CONTRIBUTE anything to the political/war plot. Any time they participate it feels like they exist to be corrected by the men in the room.
It’s not the worst book I’ve ever read, and has some surprisingly good jokes and character dialogue, but is bogged down by long stretches of nothing happening.
Graphic: Misogyny
Moderate: Gun violence, Pedophilia, and Racial slurs
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