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Dawn by Octavia E. Butler

12 reviews

30something_reads's review against another edition

adventurous challenging dark hopeful mysterious reflective tense medium-paced

• Plot- or character-driven? A mix
• Strong character development? Yes
• Loveable characters? It's complicated
• Diverse cast of characters? Yes
• Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes

4.75

 I am at an utter loss for words. This was incredible. It was deeply unsettling. I couldn't sleep last night.

I'm so torn between wanting to pick up the next book immediately but also needing 2-3 business days to process everything that happened. 

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Content Warnings

Graphic: Confinement, Xenophobia, Colonisation, and Violence

Minor: Cursing, Death, Grief, Hate crime, Injury/Injury detail, Medical trauma, Misogyny, Murder, Pregnancy, Sexual content, Sexual violence, Suicide attempt, Terminal illness, and War

monstrouscosmos's review against another edition

challenging dark emotional sad tense slow-paced

• Plot- or character-driven? A mix
• Strong character development? It's complicated
• Loveable characters? It's complicated
• Diverse cast of characters? Yes
• Flaws of characters a main focus? It's complicated

3.25

Characters: 7.5/10
Relationships: 3/10
Atmosphere/Setting: 6.5/10
Writing Style: 9/10
Plot/Intrigue: 7/10
Internal Logic: 9/10
Entertainment: 3/10
Overall: 45/70, 3.25* 

I read this for a challenge prompt, and chose it because I've struggled with other things I've read/listened to by Butler. while I'm glad I made it through and am grateful for the experience overall: this just wasn't something I could enjoy. I know that's kind of the point, so I'm glad I chose to listen to this when I knew I'd have the emotional bandwidth for it. 

I listened to the Book 2 preview at the end and won't be continuing in the series, but I understand why it's so popular! it's just not for me. 

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Content Warnings

Graphic: Confinement, Violence, Suicide attempt, Xenophobia, Toxic friendship, Colonisation, Medical content, Blood, Murder, Body horror, Bullying, Forced institutionalization, Panic attacks/disorders, Kidnapping, Medical trauma, Physical abuse, Mental illness, Sexual violence, Suicidal thoughts, Suicide, Toxic relationship, Trafficking, and War

Moderate: Rape

Minor: Adult/minor relationship and Incest

nigerianturtle's review against another edition

challenging emotional mysterious tense medium-paced

• Plot- or character-driven? A mix
• Strong character development? It's complicated
• Loveable characters? It's complicated
• Diverse cast of characters? Yes
• Flaws of characters a main focus? It's complicated

4.75

It was a compelling and engaging read… I was conflicted in my review at first but honestly the book is beautifully written. There is a lot to think about and it is necessary to note that the author does not pass judgement on characters, the main character does. You see what she finds acceptable and what she falls prey to throughout the narration. I think she is incredibly contradictory and almost easily manipulated in a way that is really captivating. 

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Content Warnings

Graphic: Confinement and Colonisation

Moderate: Rape, Suicide attempt, Sexual assault, and Violence

kri13's review against another edition

dark emotional mysterious sad tense medium-paced

• Plot- or character-driven? A mix
• Strong character development? It's complicated
• Loveable characters? It's complicated
• Diverse cast of characters? Yes
• Flaws of characters a main focus? It's complicated

3.5

At first I really enjoyed this book.  The heavy plot of coercion and sexual assault became too much for me.  It's troubling how the captures are made to seem almost affectionate. I also thought the book worked under the assumption that men would rape women on site if they'd been alone for a time- and that all humans would want to quickly form heterosexual couples when put in a room together. 

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Content Warnings

Graphic: Domestic abuse

Moderate: Rape, Sexual assault, Sexual violence, and Toxic relationship

Minor: Pregnancy, Cancer, Self harm, Sexism, Transphobia, Homophobia, and Suicide attempt

miraclesnow's review against another edition

adventurous challenging dark emotional reflective sad medium-paced

• Plot- or character-driven? A mix
• Strong character development? Yes
• Loveable characters? It's complicated
• Diverse cast of characters? Yes
• Flaws of characters a main focus? It's complicated

4.5

This book is made to be messy. As someone with a cursory interest in ethics, Octavia Butler made the Oankali truly alien in ways that go beyond their exteriors, while still feeling like sentient individuals. Nothing about this book is simple and it’s such a good way of making you think about not very common topics. I feel like I’m in knots just trying to parse everything that happened. 

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Content Warnings

Graphic: Homophobia, Gaslighting, Murder, Emotional abuse, Colonisation, Infertility, Racism, Sexual violence, Suicide attempt, Suicidal thoughts, Confinement, Violence, and Xenophobia

Moderate: War, Child death, Death, Medical content, Medical trauma, Sexual assault, and Car accident

Minor: Cancer

malessia's review against another edition

adventurous challenging dark mysterious tense medium-paced

• Plot- or character-driven? A mix
• Strong character development? It's complicated
• Loveable characters? No
• Diverse cast of characters? Yes
• Flaws of characters a main focus? No

4.25

Alien sex made me uncomfortable ngl

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Content Warnings

Graphic: Sexual content, Sexual assault, Sexual violence, and Xenophobia

Moderate: Rape

Minor: Pregnancy, Suicidal thoughts, Murder, Suicide, and Suicide attempt

stefhyena's review against another edition

adventurous dark emotional mysterious reflective slow-paced

• Plot- or character-driven? A mix
• Strong character development? It's complicated
• Loveable characters? No
• Diverse cast of characters? It's complicated
• Flaws of characters a main focus? It's complicated

3.75

It was well written, interesting, unique and far too rapey for me. I don't think the intent was to make rape palatable but there was too much attempt to make consent more complex than I am ok with it being. Considering this was back in the 80s I sort of get it but the idea of "your words said yes but your body betrayed your real desires" is horrible, especially when it's against the best interests of the character. Butler does not make her own moral standpoint on that clear but it happens again and again and it's unpleasant to read about and I didn't feel it was a useful thought.

There are a couple of attempted rapes by human males and Lilith fights them as she does not fight other non-consensual stuff. The result is a "naturalisation" of rape. At one point we are told that the men were angry because being non-consensually taken by the aliens positioned them as women. Even if this is some sophisticated, ironic point Butler is making I don't find that useful. It just made me hate all the characters.

As far as Lilith goes I did invest in her early on and stayed more or less loyal even though I did not agree with things. Treating her as a character is if anything cruel optimism because any agancy she has turns out to be an illusion. To the aliens, for all they call humans "trading partners" what they are doing is colonising and enslaving them. This is possibly a good point to consider but then the humans in the book are evil and horrible too and it leaves you feeling like there is nothing to hope for or strive for - sentient life is just rotten. There are no good guys whatsoever in this.

As I said it was well written and easy to dip back into every time I got a free moment. I wanted to know what happens next because I wrongly thought (this being the first of a series) that we'd be given a moderately happy and hopeful ending.

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Content Warnings

Graphic: Violence, Xenophobia, Rape, and Medical trauma

Minor: Suicide, War, and Suicide attempt

haylzno's review against another edition

adventurous challenging dark emotional mysterious tense slow-paced

• Plot- or character-driven? A mix
• Strong character development? Yes
• Loveable characters? It's complicated
• Diverse cast of characters? Yes
• Flaws of characters a main focus? No

5.0

By far my favorite of the trilogy. I loved following Lillith and her moral struggles (not the focus in books 2 & 3) 

I loved the introduction to the Oankali, their world, their customs, and their demands of the surviving humans. 

Truly, Octavia Butler is a genius.

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Content Warnings

Graphic: Confinement, Suicidal thoughts, and Suicide attempt

Moderate: Child death, War, Panic attacks/disorders, Death, Terminal illness, Grief, and Genocide

allyreindl33's review against another edition

medium-paced

• Plot- or character-driven? A mix
• Strong character development? Yes
• Loveable characters? No
• Diverse cast of characters? Yes
• Flaws of characters a main focus? It's complicated

3.0

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Content Warnings

Moderate: Sexual content, Xenophobia, Suicidal thoughts, Confinement, and Body horror

Minor: Sexual assault and Suicide attempt

thenonbinaryc's review against another edition

adventurous mysterious tense medium-paced

4.0

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Content Warnings

Graphic: Confinement

Moderate: Car accident, Suicide attempt, Rape, Kidnapping, War, Abandonment, Pregnancy, Incest, Sexual content, and Child death