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moon2001's review against another edition
challenging
dark
emotional
reflective
sad
tense
medium-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? Character
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? It's complicated
- Diverse cast of characters? No
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
4.25
Content Warnings
Graphic: Suicide attempt, Death, Sexual assault, Death of parent, Domestic abuse, Emotional abuse, Medical content, Panic attacks/disorders, Physical abuse, Pregnancy, Sexual violence, Alcohol, Blood, Child abuse, Cursing, Grief, Infertility, Rape, Sexual content, Sexual harassment, Suicide, Suicidal thoughts, and Violence
nworba's review
challenging
emotional
inspiring
sad
tense
fast-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? Character
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? It's complicated
- Diverse cast of characters? No
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
5.0
This book was complicated for me. It did a great job of getting you to love the characters and in the very smallest way, understand what someone might go through when they face physical abuse . I was uncomfortable with the book but also couldn't put it down.
Content Warnings
Graphic: Domestic abuse, Physical abuse, and Pregnancy
Moderate: Cursing and Death of parent
Minor: Rape, Suicide attempt, Self harm, Alcohol, Suicidal thoughts, Medical content, Death, Gun violence, and Sexual violence
jpalms0626's review against another edition
dark
emotional
fast-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? It's complicated
- Diverse cast of characters? No
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
3.5
This book is NOT a romance. That being said, the story it does tell is compelling. There is extensive, graphic, on page abuse in this book. The story is realistic about its portrayal and what Lily goes through/her thought process during it. I did not love how the abuse is often portrayed as out of Rile's hands and something he doesn't have control over, though that may be realistic of how Lily perceived it. Also I cannot believe not one person who has read this that I've seen has mentioned the ABSURD amount of Ellen references?????? So bizarre, just have a normal diary.
Content Warnings
Graphic: Rape, Domestic abuse, Physical abuse, and Violence
Moderate: Suicide attempt
cheruphim's review against another edition
emotional
sad
tense
medium-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? Character
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? No
- Diverse cast of characters? No
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
3.0
(Reposted from Goodreads)
Finally, I read a Colleen Hoover book.
It Ends With Us is one of those books you hear a lot about, but don't actually -know- what it is about. It centers around a female protagonist named Lily Bloom (the most Fiction Book Female name ever) and her trials and tribulations in Boston, Massachusetts, as she falls for a guy named Ryle Kincaid (also the most Fiction Book Male name ever). Ryle is smart, dashing, and rich, but there's more to him than meets the eye, and more of his inner darkness bubbles to the surface when her childhood crush, Atlas (...no words) enters the picture. What happens is a riveting tale of love, hate, and the oft-mentioned but seldom discussed world of domestic abuse.
Make no mistake, this book involves domestic abuse, specifically of the spousal variety. It was written from Hoover's own personal experiences with it, and I think it is important to keep that in mind when reading this. I think due to the popularity of Hoover's books and her work in general, many walk into this not realizing it's a book about spousal abuse. I do hate how it gets marketed as something airy and romantic, especially towards women and around Valentine's Day. It's not as grim as other books on domestic abuse, something I've seen cited as a flaw in this book, but I think it works in this case. In abusive relationships, it's hard to get a pulse on what you're supposed to actually feel, and the relationship between Ryle and Lily reflects how it can go from 'fun and sexy night' to 'oh god, he hit me. He really hit me', and trying to balance that radical extreme. Much like depression, an abusive relationship isn't grim 100% of the time, and many have a hard time leaving one BECAUSE of the fun and lighthearted moments in between episodes and because they genuinely care about their partner. There is also attempted rape shown twice in this book, so please be advised when reading this book.
I think the relationship between Ryle and Lily is the most well done in this book, as well as the strained relationship between Lily and her mother and the dynamic Ryle's sister Alyssa brings to the table as both his sister and Lily's best friend. It shows how quickly things can change as well as the very real and complicated feelings Lily has for Ryle.
Everything else, on the other hand, feels kind of flat. I didn't really like Atlas, to be honest, because he didn't feel 'real' to me. Out of everyone in this book he felt like a manic pixie dream boy, showing up to be Lily's confidant and 'will-they,won't-they' lover. Unlike Ryle he has few flaws, other than he.. cares about Lily, and was once homeless? He's there just to be the 'right' boyfriend for Lily, and while, yes she deserves someone who cares about her and won't abuse her, that seems to be all there is to his personality. I wish there was more to him other than being the 'dreamy boyfriend that's there to help you escape an abusive relationship' fantasy. He was homeless at one point! I had brushes with poverty in my lifetime, along with family that has had brushes with poverty, and that does change you in a way. It makes you paranoid about your finances, or overindulgent and selfish, but for Atlas it didn't seem to affect him much as an adult other than being a sad part of his backstory. I wish the book expounded more on that, and well, at least gave him some sort of flaw.
Also while I love how real and candid this book feels about domestic abuse, it does falls on some domestic abuse tropes in media. Lily's father is cruel and abusive.. and that's it. He beats and sexually assaults her mom, and even breaks Atlas' nose for being intimate with his daughter. I'm not going to lie, I wish the book revealed more about him. For a nuanced take on domestic abuse, Lily's father is nothing more than a caricature on the abusive husband trope, and I wish there was more to him. Like did he have an anger management problem or undiagnosed mental illness? Did he himself have abusive parents growing up? We learn about Ryle and his issues, but is there nothing to be said about Lily's father? And how did beating a homeless teenager to a pulp get overlooked so easily, even if he was a powerful figure in a small town in Maine? His death is a huge catalyst to the start of this book and where Lily winds up, and I would have much rather learned more about him than some of the other material brought up in this book.
I also want to bring up something else: this book was written in 2016. I say that because a sizeable chunk of this book is Lily being a teenager and writing in her diary to Ellen Degeneres. This was long before the stories of Degeneres' cruelty towards her staff came out in 2020, and was also at the peak of her popularity. It gets overbearing at times, and the mantra 'just keep swimming' from Finding Nemo's Dory feels like something from a corny Disney mom, but I want to bring that up because I've seen reviews where people asked how Hoover could idolize Ellen like that after all she did. Well, it was written in 2016, and much of the talk surrounding her abusive behavior was limited to the Los Angeles/Hollywood film scene before it all came to light. I kind of like the touch of a kid writing to a talk show celebrity, even if the Ellen worship makes you cringe now. It also adds a sort of black humor irony to it now, seeing as how Lily was surrounded by domestic abuse, and one of her means of escape was indulging in a show that was.. also hosted by an abusive person.
Another thing I saw criticism of this book for was the ending, in which Lily breaks up with Ryle shortly after the birth of their daughter, Emerson. Many criticized it because it didn't involve Lily calling the cops or doing something drastic to exact 'revenge' on Ryle, but to me it made sense. She still loved Ryle somewhere deep down, and while she loathed him for literally being abusive, I can see why she didn't want to get law enforcement involved. Cops can be unpredicatable in domestic situations, as well as perpetrators of domestic violence in itself, and I can see why she did what she did. It felt realistic in a way, and I liked that extra touch.
This book also suffers from mid-late 2010s 'quirky' young adult writing, but, seeing as how it does come from that time period, I'll let that slide a little bit. I'm not a big fan of that writing style, but again, it did come out in 2016, so I'm not going to harp on that too much.
In conclusion, I think this book has merits, and the hate/love that this book gets is overblown, and more feels like a reaction to Colleen Hoover's mega-status rather than the book itself. It has emotional candidness that can be appreciated, regardless of where you come from, and even in its YA-esque writing style, Ellen stannery, and archetypical characters, there's something to be appreciated in this book. If you're curious to see what the fuss is about, I recommend it to the ones intrigued. Just keep in mind that it IS a book about abuse, and not strictly a romance book. (less)
Finally, I read a Colleen Hoover book.
It Ends With Us is one of those books you hear a lot about, but don't actually -know- what it is about. It centers around a female protagonist named Lily Bloom (the most Fiction Book Female name ever) and her trials and tribulations in Boston, Massachusetts, as she falls for a guy named Ryle Kincaid (also the most Fiction Book Male name ever). Ryle is smart, dashing, and rich, but there's more to him than meets the eye, and more of his inner darkness bubbles to the surface when her childhood crush, Atlas (...no words) enters the picture. What happens is a riveting tale of love, hate, and the oft-mentioned but seldom discussed world of domestic abuse.
Make no mistake, this book involves domestic abuse, specifically of the spousal variety. It was written from Hoover's own personal experiences with it, and I think it is important to keep that in mind when reading this. I think due to the popularity of Hoover's books and her work in general, many walk into this not realizing it's a book about spousal abuse. I do hate how it gets marketed as something airy and romantic, especially towards women and around Valentine's Day. It's not as grim as other books on domestic abuse, something I've seen cited as a flaw in this book, but I think it works in this case. In abusive relationships, it's hard to get a pulse on what you're supposed to actually feel, and the relationship between Ryle and Lily reflects how it can go from 'fun and sexy night' to 'oh god, he hit me. He really hit me', and trying to balance that radical extreme. Much like depression, an abusive relationship isn't grim 100% of the time, and many have a hard time leaving one BECAUSE of the fun and lighthearted moments in between episodes and because they genuinely care about their partner. There is also attempted rape shown twice in this book, so please be advised when reading this book.
I think the relationship between Ryle and Lily is the most well done in this book, as well as the strained relationship between Lily and her mother and the dynamic Ryle's sister Alyssa brings to the table as both his sister and Lily's best friend. It shows how quickly things can change as well as the very real and complicated feelings Lily has for Ryle.
Everything else, on the other hand, feels kind of flat. I didn't really like Atlas, to be honest, because he didn't feel 'real' to me. Out of everyone in this book he felt like a manic pixie dream boy, showing up to be Lily's confidant and 'will-they,won't-they' lover. Unlike Ryle he has few flaws, other than he.. cares about Lily, and was once homeless? He's there just to be the 'right' boyfriend for Lily, and while, yes she deserves someone who cares about her and won't abuse her, that seems to be all there is to his personality. I wish there was more to him other than being the 'dreamy boyfriend that's there to help you escape an abusive relationship' fantasy. He was homeless at one point! I had brushes with poverty in my lifetime, along with family that has had brushes with poverty, and that does change you in a way. It makes you paranoid about your finances, or overindulgent and selfish, but for Atlas it didn't seem to affect him much as an adult other than being a sad part of his backstory. I wish the book expounded more on that, and well, at least gave him some sort of flaw.
Also while I love how real and candid this book feels about domestic abuse, it does falls on some domestic abuse tropes in media. Lily's father is cruel and abusive.. and that's it. He beats and sexually assaults her mom, and even breaks Atlas' nose for being intimate with his daughter. I'm not going to lie, I wish the book revealed more about him. For a nuanced take on domestic abuse, Lily's father is nothing more than a caricature on the abusive husband trope, and I wish there was more to him. Like did he have an anger management problem or undiagnosed mental illness? Did he himself have abusive parents growing up? We learn about Ryle and his issues, but is there nothing to be said about Lily's father? And how did beating a homeless teenager to a pulp get overlooked so easily, even if he was a powerful figure in a small town in Maine? His death is a huge catalyst to the start of this book and where Lily winds up, and I would have much rather learned more about him than some of the other material brought up in this book.
I also want to bring up something else: this book was written in 2016. I say that because a sizeable chunk of this book is Lily being a teenager and writing in her diary to Ellen Degeneres. This was long before the stories of Degeneres' cruelty towards her staff came out in 2020, and was also at the peak of her popularity. It gets overbearing at times, and the mantra 'just keep swimming' from Finding Nemo's Dory feels like something from a corny Disney mom, but I want to bring that up because I've seen reviews where people asked how Hoover could idolize Ellen like that after all she did. Well, it was written in 2016, and much of the talk surrounding her abusive behavior was limited to the Los Angeles/Hollywood film scene before it all came to light. I kind of like the touch of a kid writing to a talk show celebrity, even if the Ellen worship makes you cringe now. It also adds a sort of black humor irony to it now, seeing as how Lily was surrounded by domestic abuse, and one of her means of escape was indulging in a show that was.. also hosted by an abusive person.
Another thing I saw criticism of this book for was the ending, in which Lily breaks up with Ryle shortly after the birth of their daughter, Emerson. Many criticized it because it didn't involve Lily calling the cops or doing something drastic to exact 'revenge' on Ryle, but to me it made sense. She still loved Ryle somewhere deep down, and while she loathed him for literally being abusive, I can see why she didn't want to get law enforcement involved. Cops can be unpredicatable in domestic situations, as well as perpetrators of domestic violence in itself, and I can see why she did what she did. It felt realistic in a way, and I liked that extra touch.
This book also suffers from mid-late 2010s 'quirky' young adult writing, but, seeing as how it does come from that time period, I'll let that slide a little bit. I'm not a big fan of that writing style, but again, it did come out in 2016, so I'm not going to harp on that too much.
In conclusion, I think this book has merits, and the hate/love that this book gets is overblown, and more feels like a reaction to Colleen Hoover's mega-status rather than the book itself. It has emotional candidness that can be appreciated, regardless of where you come from, and even in its YA-esque writing style, Ellen stannery, and archetypical characters, there's something to be appreciated in this book. If you're curious to see what the fuss is about, I recommend it to the ones intrigued. Just keep in mind that it IS a book about abuse, and not strictly a romance book. (less)
Content Warnings
Graphic: Sexual content, Rape, Domestic abuse, Panic attacks/disorders, Grief, and Toxic relationship
Moderate: Child death, Suicide attempt, Abandonment, and Child abuse
emily_linn_26's review against another edition
dark
emotional
reflective
sad
tense
medium-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? Yes
- Diverse cast of characters? No
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
4.75
Content Warnings
Graphic: Domestic abuse, Physical abuse, Death of parent, Violence, Toxic relationship, Emotional abuse, Grief, Pregnancy, Rape, Self harm, Sexual violence, Infertility, Injury/Injury detail, Suicide attempt, Gaslighting, Suicidal thoughts, Suicide, and Sexual assault
water_melin's review against another edition
emotional
reflective
sad
tense
medium-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? Character
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? Yes
- Diverse cast of characters? No
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
4.0
Content Warnings
Graphic: Domestic abuse and Physical abuse
Minor: Suicide attempt, Rape, and Abandonment
munachireads's review
emotional
informative
inspiring
tense
medium-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? Character
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? It's complicated
- Diverse cast of characters? No
- Flaws of characters a main focus? It's complicated
3.75
I put Medium pace as it started to kick in around 9 or so chapters in. There were a lot of quotables towards the end of Part Two.
I enjoyed the complexity of the characters and how realistic the protagonists reactions and developments were however I felt at times there were some overly opportunistic moments to inject romance. I was also wondering if there was more counsel on how a 15 year old would actually write in a diary, it felt more reflective than from that position (little spelling/grammatical mistakes, hyper-mature language, etc). It’s expected the writing age was much older considering the author wasn’t a teenager but it could’ve added something
Content Warnings
Graphic: Domestic abuse, Emotional abuse, Gaslighting, Adult/minor relationship, Injury/Injury detail, Alcohol, Physical abuse, Violence, Self harm, Alcoholism, Suicide attempt, Suicide, Suicidal thoughts, and Rape
daybreakreads's review against another edition
challenging
emotional
hopeful
inspiring
reflective
sad
tense
fast-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? It's complicated
- Diverse cast of characters? No
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
5.0
I have not read any other Colleen Hoover books and wasn’t sure what to expect with this because I also don’t read romance and thought it was going to be some sort of potential “50 Shades of Grey” sort of thing. I was pleasantly surprised at being wrong.
I had alarm bells going off immediately with the abusive character, but I love the depth the author eventually added to *all* of the characters, including the abusive one. When you find out the reasons why he is the way he is, it’s hard to not feel some level of sympathy for him, regardless of the fact that he’s just words on paper. Imagine him as a real human that charms you and makes you feel loved, and the story makes even more sense.
I personally would not recommend this one to anyone who is *currently* struggling with *any* mental illness issues, regardless of what they are, because it’s an in-depth look at flawed thought patterns across multiple characters and how they led to and enabled violence. That said, I was able to make it through it okay despite a prior PTSD diagnosis (among other things) related to something similar, and I really value and appreciate this for what it is. You’re an adult who can choose to do what you would like, but as someone who’s been there and managed to get better, I’d strongly and compassionately advise against it. That goes for anyone even with anxiety or depression who isn’t necessarily at risk for DV. Just my thoughts; keep it on your TBR to look forward to for when you’re doing better :)
I had alarm bells going off immediately with the abusive character, but I love the depth the author eventually added to *all* of the characters, including the abusive one. When you find out the reasons why he is the way he is, it’s hard to not feel some level of sympathy for him, regardless of the fact that he’s just words on paper. Imagine him as a real human that charms you and makes you feel loved, and the story makes even more sense.
I personally would not recommend this one to anyone who is *currently* struggling with *any* mental illness issues, regardless of what they are, because it’s an in-depth look at flawed thought patterns across multiple characters and how they led to and enabled violence. That said, I was able to make it through it okay despite a prior PTSD diagnosis (among other things) related to something similar, and I really value and appreciate this for what it is. You’re an adult who can choose to do what you would like, but as someone who’s been there and managed to get better, I’d strongly and compassionately advise against it. That goes for anyone even with anxiety or depression who isn’t necessarily at risk for DV. Just my thoughts; keep it on your TBR to look forward to for when you’re doing better :)
Content Warnings
Moderate: Sexual assault, Domestic abuse, Sexual content, and Sexual violence
Minor: Alcoholism, Death of parent, Suicide attempt, Injury/Injury detail, Panic attacks/disorders, Self harm, Suicidal thoughts, Alcohol, Pregnancy, and Rape
frecklefarmer's review against another edition
dark
emotional
reflective
medium-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? Character
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? It's complicated
- Diverse cast of characters? No
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
4.0
Holy domestic violence batman. Was not prepared for the darkness in this intense read, but damn if i wasnt chasing every minute I could listen more.
Content Warnings
Graphic: Child death, Domestic abuse, Pregnancy, and Suicide attempt
inneraman's review
dark
emotional
hopeful
reflective
sad
tense
medium-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? Plot
- Strong character development? It's complicated
- Loveable characters? It's complicated
- Diverse cast of characters? N/A
- Flaws of characters a main focus? No
4.5
Content Warnings
Graphic: Domestic abuse, Abandonment, Violence, Toxic relationship, Pregnancy, and Physical abuse
Moderate: Suicide attempt, Rape, and Blood
Minor: Panic attacks/disorders