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3.91 AVERAGE
3.91 AVERAGE
Pleasantly surprised by the amount of speeches I found not only entertaining, but truthful (to a certain extent).
A great, easy and simply fun introduction to Greek philosophy.
(Extremely gay! Double points for that!)
Personal favorite speech was Agathon’s, since, in my opinion, it had the most modern interpretation of love, as well as the closest to my heart and my own view on loving.
A great, easy and simply fun introduction to Greek philosophy.
(Extremely gay! Double points for that!)
Personal favorite speech was Agathon’s, since, in my opinion, it had the most modern interpretation of love, as well as the closest to my heart and my own view on loving.
It was by following where his desire and love led him that Apollo discovered the arts of archery, medicine and prophecy, and this makes Apollo a pupil of Love.
We may take this as evidence that Love is a good composer in, broadly, every type of artistic production, because you can't give someone else what you don't have or teach someone what you don't know yourself.
He had the courage to choose to act on behalf of his lover by avenging him: he not only died for him but also died as well as him, since Patroclus was already dead.
informative
slow-paced
this was boring as hell even if it was gay
reflective
medium-paced
This was... something. Interesting topics to study, although some are outdated. It was so bizarre, reading about pedophilia made me very uncomfortable.
A whole lotta advocacy for boy love… I kid somewhat. But a lot of food for thought on the nature and purpose of love, and its effects on people. It was nice to return to a dialogue style of philosophy after a whole lot of just deluge texts
Leído para Griego Filosófico. Quitando las partes en las que se elogia al pesado de Sócrates, libro maravilloso. Misoginia y homosexualidad. El libro de Platón más digerible porque Sócrates no habla casi y, cuando lo hace, se limita a decir lo que le dijo una mujer.
Banger. Sometimes surprisingly funny and a good thinker. Has ideas that are radical even for today that are weird to grapple with. Undeniably misogynist, but I think the dialogues are made in a way where you're supposed to note the points you can disagree and take issue with and continue the arguing into the real world, which makes them less just a manifesto or doctrine and more a starting point for further thinking down the line. Just like anybody else says, Aristophanes is the highlight, but the character of Socrates definitely shines if not his panegyric.
I used to think philosophers were dull people, and that reading Plato was for dry academics. Talk about prejudice!
Drinking and revelling only moderated mildly by serious discussion about love.
A pure delight to read!
Drinking and revelling only moderated mildly by serious discussion about love.
A pure delight to read!
I would have given it a three, but Aristophanes's speech is just genius.
informative
reflective
medium-paced
this book is one of the most fascinating takes on love i’ve ever read. plato really treats love as something worth thinking deeply about. through speeches by figures like socrates, aristophanes, and agathon, love gets explored from all kinds of angles, each showing a different side of it. what stood out most was socrates’ idea that philosophy is actually an expression of love. he ties the longing for beauty and wisdom to a quest for the forms, showing how love can push us beyond physical attraction toward something bigger, like intellectual and spiritual growth. it’s poetic and thought-provoking, though it’s fair to wonder how honest socrates is being in his speech. the variety of perspectives, from aristophanes’ humor to alcibiades’ messy, flawed love for socrates, makes the dialogue feel rich and layered. each speech highlights a different piece of what love can be, but socrates’ view feels the deepest. plato’s work is so thoughtful but also feels personal in a way. it made me think a lot about how love can either go wrong or help us grow. it’s a timeless piece that blends big ideas, emotion, and metaphor beautifully.