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جالب بود و مناسب حال حاضر
دلم نمیخواست به این زودی تموم شه:(((((
دلم نمیخواست به این زودی تموم شه:(((((
An enlightening story, almost thrilling from time to time and eerily close to actual historical events.
A good read!
A good read!
challenging
dark
emotional
funny
informative
inspiring
reflective
sad
slow-paced
Plot or Character Driven:
Character
Strong character development:
Yes
Loveable characters:
Complicated
Diverse cast of characters:
No
Flaws of characters a main focus:
Yes
این روزها، زیاد به یالوم فکر میکنم. به اینکه در کتاب آخرش که زندگینامهاش بود، از این گفته بود که این آخرین کتابش خواهد بود و ذهنش را آبستنِ کتاب جدیدی نمیبیند. که انگار این همه سال متعهدانهزیستن و انجام وظیفه در زندگی با این کتاب، به پایان خواهد رسید.
حالا اروین یالوم، نزدیک 90 سال دارد و همین چند هفته پیش کتاب جدیدی(به رغم گفتهی قبلیاش) از او چاپ شد. کتابی که خودش گفته که نگارش آنرا با مریلین آغاز کرده و حالا که به آخرش رسیده، 14 ماه از مرگ مریلین میگذرد. مریلینی که 60 سال با یالوم زیست و جایجای آثارش، رد او را میبینیم. حالا یالوم، مردی که همواره از مرگ و تنهایی میگفت، خود سوگوار و تنهاست. و تماشای شور او که با تمام این اوصاف و در حالی که آمادهی در آغوشگرفتن مرگ است مینویسد و تلاش میکند و ایمیل آدمها را جواب میدهد و در فیسبوک پست میگذارد و سخنرانی میکند و حتی ویرایش جدیدی از کتابهای قدیمیاش منتشر میکند، بینهایت متاثرم میکند. به این فکر میکنم که چقدر اینجور زندگی کردن، متعهدانه و اصیل است و کاش بیشتر بماند و بیشتر از او بیاموزم.
"وقتی نیچه گریست" را چند سال پیش خوانده بودم. در هیاهوی یک بحران بزرگ زندگی. حال که دوباره خواندمش، کاملا جور دیگری بود. خیلی بیشتر از بار اول از آن یاد گرفتم و لذت بردم. ایدهی فوقالعادهایست که موضوع وسواس را محور اصلی یک کتاب بگذاری و اینجور هنرمندانه، بنویسی.
پ.ن.: خوانش مجدد کتابهای قدیمی فوقالعاده است. یک جور لذت متفاوت نسبت به خوانش اول است. همه تجربهها و پستی و بلندیهای زندگی واقعی در طول سالها، طعم جدیدی به داستان میبخشد.
حالا اروین یالوم، نزدیک 90 سال دارد و همین چند هفته پیش کتاب جدیدی(به رغم گفتهی قبلیاش) از او چاپ شد. کتابی که خودش گفته که نگارش آنرا با مریلین آغاز کرده و حالا که به آخرش رسیده، 14 ماه از مرگ مریلین میگذرد. مریلینی که 60 سال با یالوم زیست و جایجای آثارش، رد او را میبینیم. حالا یالوم، مردی که همواره از مرگ و تنهایی میگفت، خود سوگوار و تنهاست. و تماشای شور او که با تمام این اوصاف و در حالی که آمادهی در آغوشگرفتن مرگ است مینویسد و تلاش میکند و ایمیل آدمها را جواب میدهد و در فیسبوک پست میگذارد و سخنرانی میکند و حتی ویرایش جدیدی از کتابهای قدیمیاش منتشر میکند، بینهایت متاثرم میکند. به این فکر میکنم که چقدر اینجور زندگی کردن، متعهدانه و اصیل است و کاش بیشتر بماند و بیشتر از او بیاموزم.
"وقتی نیچه گریست" را چند سال پیش خوانده بودم. در هیاهوی یک بحران بزرگ زندگی. حال که دوباره خواندمش، کاملا جور دیگری بود. خیلی بیشتر از بار اول از آن یاد گرفتم و لذت بردم. ایدهی فوقالعادهایست که موضوع وسواس را محور اصلی یک کتاب بگذاری و اینجور هنرمندانه، بنویسی.
پ.ن.: خوانش مجدد کتابهای قدیمی فوقالعاده است. یک جور لذت متفاوت نسبت به خوانش اول است. همه تجربهها و پستی و بلندیهای زندگی واقعی در طول سالها، طعم جدیدی به داستان میبخشد.
I know many things about psychoanalysis, but less about Nietzsche so I welcomed this fictional friendship of Breuer (Freuds menthor) and Nietzsche, I learned interesting things about both. I also found Lou Salome intriguing, I hope I will find some of her books to find out more.
I identified a lot with Breuers crisis and that helped understand myself and some of my own depressions.
Some of the questions I took with me after this reading:
- what is the link between the conflict and the symptom? are there any similarities in explanation between psychoanalysis and new german medicine?
- why does the same conflict have different symptoms in different people?
- why is hysteria mainly female?
I also found Nietsches idea of eternal return very powerful and I must take a closer look into that too.
I identified a lot with Breuers crisis and that helped understand myself and some of my own depressions.
Some of the questions I took with me after this reading:
- what is the link between the conflict and the symptom? are there any similarities in explanation between psychoanalysis and new german medicine?
- why does the same conflict have different symptoms in different people?
- why is hysteria mainly female?
I also found Nietsches idea of eternal return very powerful and I must take a closer look into that too.
I had never heard of this book when it was chosen for one of my book groups. The cover discouraged me, subtitling the book as "a novel of obsession" and including a blurb stating that it was "A shrewd intellectual thriller."
Fortunately my sense of duty to my book group made me push through my reluctance. Obsession is certainly a theme of the novel, but not the central one, and although it's shrewd and intellectual as hell, I think anyone looking for a thriller would be disappointed.
What it is is the story on a few months in the life of Josef Breuer--months in which he meets and treats, and is treated by, Friedrich Nietzsche. Breuer is beginning to explore psychoanalysis. Nietzsche suffers from migraines and despair. They circle around each other warily, but ultimately develop a deep and honest friendship, which enriches, and saves, them both.
I confess to never having read Nietzsche, so can't speak to whether that would enrich or detract from the book. But I'm certainly now tempted to do so.
Immediately after finishing the book, I gave it five stars. I've now removed one, because after reflection I realize that the sudden happy ending is a bit contrived.
Fortunately my sense of duty to my book group made me push through my reluctance. Obsession is certainly a theme of the novel, but not the central one, and although it's shrewd and intellectual as hell, I think anyone looking for a thriller would be disappointed.
What it is is the story on a few months in the life of Josef Breuer--months in which he meets and treats, and is treated by, Friedrich Nietzsche. Breuer is beginning to explore psychoanalysis. Nietzsche suffers from migraines and despair. They circle around each other warily, but ultimately develop a deep and honest friendship, which enriches, and saves, them both.
I confess to never having read Nietzsche, so can't speak to whether that would enrich or detract from the book. But I'm certainly now tempted to do so.
Immediately after finishing the book, I gave it five stars. I've now removed one, because after reflection I realize that the sudden happy ending is a bit contrived.
The Doctor of Despair
The fin de siecle Viennese satirist, Karl Kraus, took a dim view of the emerging field of psychiatry: “Psychoanalysis is that mental illness for which it regards itself as therapy.” And, somewhat surprisingly, this is the main theme of this novel by an eminent psychotherapist. Psychiatry is indeed a field of Byzantine relationships. Perhaps that is Yalom’s point.
Friedrich Nietzsche and Josef Breuer never really met; but Yalom puts them in an intense relationship of mutual therapy, each believing that the other is the patient and he the therapist. Breuer, Freud’s mentor and the discoverer of the psychoanalytic ‘talking cure’, is acutely depressed; Nietzsche, the as yet unknown philosopher, suffers from debilitating migraines.
Nietzsche seeks to teach Breuer about ‘freedom’ by which he means a sort of resignation to one’s fate. Breuer sees his task as revealing Nietzsche’s emotional reality to himself. Neither succeeds. But in their failures they accomplish remarkable psychological things with themselves by trying to help the other. Breuer frees himself from his obsession with a patient and Nietzsche learns how to reduce the severity of his migraines.
It appears, then, that Karl Kraus was on to something important as far as Yalom is concerned. Kraus summarised the situation thus: “My unconscious knows more about the consciousness of the psychologist than his consciousness knows about my unconscious.” Psychoanalysis is Byzantine indeed. Does anyone really understand its mechanism and effects? Yalom seems to doubt it.
The fin de siecle Viennese satirist, Karl Kraus, took a dim view of the emerging field of psychiatry: “Psychoanalysis is that mental illness for which it regards itself as therapy.” And, somewhat surprisingly, this is the main theme of this novel by an eminent psychotherapist. Psychiatry is indeed a field of Byzantine relationships. Perhaps that is Yalom’s point.
Friedrich Nietzsche and Josef Breuer never really met; but Yalom puts them in an intense relationship of mutual therapy, each believing that the other is the patient and he the therapist. Breuer, Freud’s mentor and the discoverer of the psychoanalytic ‘talking cure’, is acutely depressed; Nietzsche, the as yet unknown philosopher, suffers from debilitating migraines.
Nietzsche seeks to teach Breuer about ‘freedom’ by which he means a sort of resignation to one’s fate. Breuer sees his task as revealing Nietzsche’s emotional reality to himself. Neither succeeds. But in their failures they accomplish remarkable psychological things with themselves by trying to help the other. Breuer frees himself from his obsession with a patient and Nietzsche learns how to reduce the severity of his migraines.
It appears, then, that Karl Kraus was on to something important as far as Yalom is concerned. Kraus summarised the situation thus: “My unconscious knows more about the consciousness of the psychologist than his consciousness knows about my unconscious.” Psychoanalysis is Byzantine indeed. Does anyone really understand its mechanism and effects? Yalom seems to doubt it.
reflective
slow-paced
Plot or Character Driven:
Character
Strong character development:
Yes
Loveable characters:
Yes
Diverse cast of characters:
No
Flaws of characters a main focus:
Complicated
Uma excelente viagem pelo mundo da Psicologia e da descoberta da Psicanálise. Uma obra-prima. Um livro incrível e surpreendente. Recomendo!!!
challenging
emotional
inspiring
reflective
medium-paced
Plot or Character Driven:
Character
Strong character development:
Yes
Loveable characters:
Yes
Diverse cast of characters:
Complicated
Flaws of characters a main focus:
Yes