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A Rising Thunder by David Weber

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5.0

Thirteenth in the Honor Harrington military science fiction series revolving around Honor Harrington and the strategies required to keep the Kingdom of Manticore free.

You may want to wait and read A Rising Thunder after the next installment is published in 2013…2013??!!…'cause it is just making me nutso cuckoo to have to wait for Shadow of Freedom and find out what happens next…the pins and needles are just killin' me!!

My Take
It's a lovely tale of a corrupt government system being taken down ten pegs or so by a tiny neobarb system. Manticore is a utopia compared to most systems, but it has its own share of idjits and assholes. Luckily, it also has its share of decent people. And they're in charge!

Oh, man, I love it. Those arrogant Sollies keep being shocked that this tiny neobarb navy actually dares to threaten the all-powerful SLN!? Talk about shock — the awe showed up back in Mission of Honor. It blows my mind that the SL government officials are so much more concerned about their personal fiefdoms that they'd rather take this chance at war and lying to their public than just admit they screwed up. So much cheaper in personnel, ships, money… Heck, they can barely admit it to each other.
"Justice is conspicuous by its absence when it comes to politics and entrenched, self-serving regimes."
For centuries the Solarian League and its navy (SLN) has had everything its own way, and they have taken advantage. No one knows how many systems were absorbed into the League voluntarily, but it's a good bet that many were forcibly taken. All in the name of "helping out". Then their economies are plundered by the corrupt men set in charge over them. This attitude has taken them up against the navy of Manticore. A navy that has been researching and upgrading, inventing and improving their own weapons on an almost daily basis for decades in their war with the People's Republic of Haven while the SLN has been too complacent and corrupt to bother.

No one in the SLN can believe that these tiny ships could possibly take out the mighty ships of the SLN. An attitude that doesn't prevent Manticore from doing what it needs to protect itself and its allies.

The SL applies the terms of treaties and agreements when it's convenient to them; downplays them when it's not. They're manipulating the data to make the Manties look like the bad guys. What's truly amazing is that the SL public, despite knowing how incredibly corrupt their government is, actually buys this.

The SL has used its Frontier Security Force to bash the protectorate star systems for tribute, all of which goes directly to the SL bureaucracies and is the whole reason why the Office of Frontier Security (OFS) has been encouraged to expand its territory any way it likes.

Longacre (Beowulf) sums up the SL officials very well: "…he doesn't seem to grasp the possibility that there's any universe outside the system he understands." And it's too much fun to watch the Beowulfans dance around the SLN, thwarting their plans to use the Beowulf Terminus to attack Manticore. So many angles, so many disappointments for the SLN.

Don't be fooled, though. Weber gets the tension up there and keeps cranking it up! I swear I read and sped and my heart rate just kept going up. Weber has shown that he doesn't mind killing off the good characters or putting the good guys into really tight situations. No, it's never a gratuitous "kill", but, da-yum. A few books back there was a rumor he was going to off Honor…I just about died! And the damned Mesans are sending a load of their rockets to replace SLN ones. Eeek!

It's so amazing to hear White Haven admitting that Admiral Hemphill's research into improved weaponry was such a great idea and that he was so wrong. He admitted it before, books ago, but, still, it takes a big man to be able to bring it up again and again.

There is just so very much that is coming to a head in this series. I always figured that brokering a peace with the Republic of Haven would be the end. It makes sense that war with the Solarian League would bring that peace about and open up a whole new front to take down a new and bigger bully.
This pretty much sums it up: "I'm proposing to exercise the sovereign right of my star system to defend its citizens against the orders of an unelected clique of corrupt bureaucrats with no trace of constitutional authority…"
We also get the backstory on Anton Zilwicki and Victor Cachat escaping from Mesa, the present they brought home for Manticore and Haven, and why they decide to head to Nouveau Paris first with their prize.

Omigod, that whole exchange between Holmon-Sanders and Tsang…ya gotta wonder how often the U.S. and other countries' government/military commands have pulled crap like that on smaller nations. I should hope it's never been with such a flagrant disregard for truth and law! Weber really gets me going when I read this stuff..! Arghhh…! Why does the bad guy always gets mad when you reverse his tactics on him?

The Story
Not getting a reaction from the Solarian League, Manticore ups the ante and recalls its merchant ships, ordering each and every one home while the Royal Navy takes over space termini to ensure their people get home safe. It's a move that angers ships' captains and merchants, and one that begins to terrify the rest of the universe as they begin to realize just how many of those merchant hulls are Manticoran.

And Filareta with a huge Solarian League fleet. Sorry, another huge fleet directly to Manticore to beat them into submission — amazing how the SLN keeps losing fleets to the Manties. Then Beowulf receives a visit from Admiral Simpson of the SLN, and the speculation is rife as to whether the SL has finally figured out how deeply in bed Beowulf is with Manticore.

In the meantime, Crown Prince Roger Gregory Alexander Timothy Winton is about to get married to his soon-to-be Crown Princess, Rivka Rosenfeld. And the first time, the treecat volunteers have served as security in this non-war.

And, it's time to implement Lacoön Two.

The Characters
A more detailed character list is in my KD Did It review.

The Star Kingdom of Manticore
Duchess Honor Harrington-Alexander and her treecat, Nimitz, are still going strong. Captain Spencer Hawke is her one remaining armsman. James MacGuiness is still Honor's steward. Drs. Allison and Alfred Harrington are her parents. Sergeant Isaiah Matlock is the son of a forestry ranger and has been assigned to Alfred as his bodyguard; Corporal Anastasia Yanakov is Allison's. Faith and James Harrington are Honor's twin siblings, and while they still have Luck Blackett, replacing Jeremiah Tennard was difficult until Honor thought of Andrew's younger brother, Corporal Micah LaFollett. Someone Faith has known her whole life. Honor's own children, Raoul and Katherine, have drawn Lieutenant Vincent Clinkscales. Hamish Alexander-Harrington, Earl of White Haven, is married to Honor, and both of them are married to Emily Alexander-Harrington, Countess of White Haven. Samantha is Hamish's treecat.

The Manticoran Navy includes…
…(besides Honor!) some old-timers: Captain Andrea Jaruwalski, Commodore Mercedes Bingham, and Captain Rafael Cardones. Vice Admiral Alice Truman of the Mantie Navy is in Beowulf as backup.

Empress Elizabeth is Manticore's ruler. Her Cabinet consists of William Alexander, Baron Grantville and Prime Minister of the Star Empire; Sir Anthony Langtry, as foreign secretary; Baroness Morncreek; and, Bruce Wijenberg. Sir Lyman Carmichael is the Manticoran ambassador to the Solarian League in Old Chicago.

Sphnix is…
...Honor's and Nimitz's home planet and part of the Star Kingdom of Manticore. Dr. Adelina Arif has been teaching sign language to the treecats of Sphinx, and now a delegation of treecats have requested that Adelina comm Honor with their proposal of war from Sorrow Singer, Song Shadow, and six other memory singers. The genocide of the Black Water clan has galvanized the treecats for war.

Grayson is…
…allied with Manticore. Protector of Grayson Benjamin Mayhew, his wives Katherine and Elaine, and three of their children are arriving in Manticore. Michael Mayhew, Benjamin's brother, is the Grayson representative to the Republic of Haven-Manticore treaty.

The Andermani are…
…a mostly independent planet with a watching brief and is inclined to Manticore. Admiral Chien-lu Anderman, Herzog von Rabenstrange, has also arrived in Landing with his "personal aide" Major Shiang Schenk of the Totenkopf Hussars representing Emperor Gustav.

The People's Republic of Haven was…
...Manticore's enemy for years. Its President Pritchard has found common ground with the Star Kingdom. Admiral Thomas Theisman of the People's Navy (and its Secretary of Defense, War, and Chief of Naval Operations) will have a front row seat.

Anton Zilwicki and Victor Cachat are spies; the first for Manticore and the second for Haven. Both have reputations for getting the job done, no matter what.

The Solarian League (SL) is…
…the enemy. The men who really run the Solarian League are Permanent Senior Undersecretaries Innokentiy Kolokoltsov, the most powerful man in the entire League; Agatá Wodoslawski is Treasury; Malachai Abruzzi is Information; and, Omosupe Quartermain is Commerce. Admiral Rajampet Rajani is in charge of the navy. President Yeou Kun Chol is a figurehead only and has never interfered in the running of the SL until his much smarter brother becomes concerned. Fleet Admiral Winston Kingsford looks to be getting a promotion. The very competent Captain Gweon has a good plan. Erzébet Pelletier is a Mesan operative.

Audrey Hanrahan is a muckracking journalist whom the government fears and everyone believes.

A new group of Solarians about to play a greater part in the story: Captain Daud al-Fanudahi, who has been trying to draw his navy's attention to the improved Manti weaponry; Captain Irene Teague who's come to believe him; Colonel Natsuko Okiku is with Criminal Investigation and just doesn't like how well all these explanations hang together; and, Major Bryce Tarkovsky is with Marine Intelligence.

The SLN fleet heading to Manticore is led by…
Fleet Admiral Massimo Filareta. Admiral John Burrows is his chief of staff and an excellent manager of Filareta. Admiral William Daniels is his operations officer. Rear Admiral Marjorie Simpson is with the SLN and a cousin of Rajampet's. She's used in a lot of gray areas by the SLN, and she's in Beowulf to coordinate an attack. Fat chance. Fleet Admiral Imogene Tsang exercises poor judgment in the attack.

Beowulf is…
…technically a Solarian League ally. Members of the Beowulf Planetary Board of Directors include Gabriel Caddell-Markham as the Director of Defense — Timothy Sung is his personal aide; Chyang Benton-Ramirez is the Chairman and CEO; Fedosei Demianovich Mikulin is Director at Large; Jukka Longacre is Director of State; and, Joshua Pinder-Swun is Secretary and Vice Chairman and CEO of the system government. Jacques Benton-Ramirez y Chou is Honor's uncle, one of Chyang's cousins, and the Third Director at Large. He's also the very unofficial liaison to the Audubon Ballroom.

Vice Admiral Holmon-Sanders of the Beowulf System Defense Force reiterates her government's demands. Felicia Hadley is Beowulf's senior delegate to the Solarian League Assembly.

Other SL Allies
Governor Oravil Barregos of the Maya Sector and Admiral Luis Roszak are making their own plans as a protectorate of the SL.

Manpower is…
…the power that fronts for the Mesan Alignment, which is the ultimate enemy with its Nazi-like beliefs. Albrecht Detweiler is the man in charge. Benjamin is one of his sons.

The Cover and Title
It's a Baen cover with its sci-fi theme and the right colors. Honor Harrington is in uniform and white beret with Nimitz wrapped around her shoulders as she marches off the ramp from her spaceship. Guards are waiting on one end while crewmen are watching her walk off. It's nighttime and the spires of buildings are lit up on either side.

The title is what the Solarian League Mandarins are provoking. It's not just the Star Empire of Manticore it needs to fear, but all the star systems its OFS has been raking over. It's A Rising Thunder that is approaching, that will rattle everything the SL has taken for granted.

applegnreads's review

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3.0

after 100 pages we finally caught up to the end of the last book.

rachper's review against another edition

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emotional tense medium-paced
  • Plot- or character-driven? Plot
  • Strong character development? It's complicated
  • Loveable characters? It's complicated
  • Diverse cast of characters? Yes
  • Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes

3.75

ptothelo's review

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3.0

Too little Honor. What was once a personal series has become more of a political series and I find myself trying to figure out the modern parallels he's trying to draw. And Mesa has become too adept at pulling strings and people are too slow to figure out what's going on. Reminds me too much of our politics and thus makes it less fun of a read. There are still great emotional beats, like the ones with her uncle and the moments that recall the deaths in the previous book, but too few and far between.

danielv64's review

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4.0

The Honor Harrington series is akin to the old Horation Hornblower novels just set in the far future with space ships rather than sailing ships.

darthshep's review

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5.0

I will give it to Mr. Weber the last few books had me doubting some of his plot points and had me having a waning interest in continuing to follow the series. The last book started to change that for me and this one continues to do so giving us more looks behind the curtain and moving the plot forward. OH and has moved my hatred of the Manticorian smugness to the Solarians (sp).

sarahd3's review

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3.0

Done.

pjonsson's review

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2.0

Talk, talk, talk! A lot of people have commented on the fact that David Weber have turned the Honor Harrington series into a political soap opera where people talk, talk and talk some more. When I started to read these books they were really good and they were really about Honor Harrington. Now, I don’t think even one quarter of this book had Harrington in it.

That’s really a shame since the books are not at all that good any more. There are some redeeming and spectacular space battles in this book and I quite like how the Solarians get their butt kicked big time but it’s just not good enough when, in three quarters of the book you just turn pages in the hope that the boring politicians will shut up and Harrington will enter the scene.

I think the only reason I read this books now is that, so far, I’ve read them all and I want to know what happens the same way you want to see how a film ends even if you’re not that thrilled about the film itself when you’ve reached the half way mark.

mferrante83's review

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5.0

The library was sent a copy of David Weber’s A Rising Thunder via the fine folks at Baker and Taylor and snagged it the second I saw it. I’ve spoken of the Honorverse before and my love of Weber’s magnificent space opera series. Along with Campbell’s Lost Fleet series the Honor Harrington novels are ranked at the top of my sci-fi series list and I’m always excited when a new books comes out. That was made all the worse this time out thanks to Weber’s frustrating cliffhanger at the end of Mission of Honor. Thankfully A Rising Thunder takes all the awesome and amazing moments built upon in the previous book and really rolls things forward.

Some spoilers ahead from Mission of Honor so if you have yet to read that book stop here.


Weber did a good job building tension about the Oyster Bay attack in Mission of Honor. I sat through that novel with growing apprehension and fear culminating in genuine sadness and outrage once the devastating attack occurred. Of course the novel ended not too long after so the real effects of that attack aren’t really felt or seen until A Rising Thunder. Of course, the scrappy Manticorans aren’t going to be daunted by the loss of almost all their orbital facilities and a recover and rebuilding effort is already underway as the novel opens. What is really surprising, not just for us but for the political entities involved is the aggressive response of the Manticoran Star Empire.

In another parellel to David Weber’s Safehold series the Star Empire of Manticore responds to the attack in much the way Charis responded the battle off Armageddon Reef. Both Charis and Manticore, when threatened by a more geographically expansive enemy and both boasting some of the best, most advanced navies in the world recall their merchant marine thus denying the enemy of their more prevalent and well-trusted hulls. I’m sure I’ve mentioned some of this before (I’ve sure thought about it a lot) but both series are about small, upstart nations whose presumption in challenging their world’s accepted social order sees them pitted against much larger seemingly unassailable foes. Both Manticore and Charis are fueled by technological advanced spurred by their need and willingness to think outside conventional means. Both Charis and Manticore find themselves under attack via a hidden group pulling the strings of the visible enemy. Heck, both Charis and Manticore find themselves allied with former enemies (though one through conquest and another through treaty). I don’t know if this a problem but the overarching thematic similarities between both Weber’s series is something that is constantly in the back of my mind as I read.

Where early Honor Harrington novels focused closely on the battle between the People’s Republic of Have and the Star Kingdom of Manticore, and specifically looked at the conflict through the filter of Honor the series has begun to grow broader in its scope. A Rising Thunder marks a major shift towards that broader perspective and sees the series quite literal aiming for the stars (beyond the Manticore binary system) and punching it full throttle. Honor wears multiple hats and is still a capable front line commander but her role in politics on an intergalactic scale has helped bush the series in direction other than pure military conflict.

A Rising Thunder isn’t a novel that is going to win new fans over. With twelve main series novels behind it (along with several other in universe novels) there is a weight of backstory behind the events of A Rising Thunder that would be impossible for new readers to grasp and without prior emotional attachment to Honor and the people in her life the novel would really fall flat. For fans A Rising Thunder feels like a close to one (rather lengthy) chapter of this story and the beginning of another whole new chapter; a chapter frought with danger and a strong dose of the unknown. That said, A Rising Thunder is both a satisfying conclusion and an exciting beginning to whatever lies ahead for this series.

mjfmjfmjf's review

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4.0

Book#20+ in the Honor Harrington series. This one was pretty plot heavy but not bad. Interestingly enough certain bits were just skipped over - though I wouldn't be surprised if they showed up as novellas or short stories elsewhere - but the strategy actually worked pretty well. So in some ways this book was more of a sketch but a well-edited complicated sketch.