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3.38 AVERAGE
adventurous
dark
reflective
slow-paced
Plot or Character Driven:
A mix
Strong character development:
Complicated
Loveable characters:
Complicated
Diverse cast of characters:
Yes
Flaws of characters a main focus:
Yes
Brilliant storyline, most likely thanks to Frank Herbert's notes. The narrative itself, however, was not as amazing as the original works. That is not to say that it wasn't good. I enjoyed reading this and its sequel.
i think the vibe pretty well stayed the same though that might not have been the case if they hadn't found frank herbert's notes
gotta say that scene where they murdered the priestess in front of uxtal was so unnecessary. she didn't need to be the one to tell him that information and we already know he won't care because he doesn't see women as people and it wasn't needed as a scare tactic either
which MAN i was like wow i hope this dude dies so that was satisfying when it happened
gotta say that scene where they murdered the priestess in front of uxtal was so unnecessary. she didn't need to be the one to tell him that information and we already know he won't care because he doesn't see women as people and it wasn't needed as a scare tactic either
which MAN i was like wow i hope this dude dies so that was satisfying when it happened
Surprising, a delightful pay off to having read all the other extra books beyond the original 6.
Après avoir lu La Maison des Mères il y a quelques années, j'attendais avec impatience la suite du cycle de Dune. Avant de lire ce tome, j'ai lu la trilogie Avant Dune et la Trilogie La Genèse de Dune de Brian Herbert et Kevin J. Anderson. Honnêtement, j'ai eu bien du plaisir à lire ces six livres. Plusieurs ont été déçu parce que le style des auteurs ne ressemble pas à celui de Frank Herbert. C'était évident que les nouveaux livres ne seraient pas aussi bon que les originaux. Je ne m'était donc pas mis des attentes trop élevées pour ne pas être déçu.
Les chasseurs de Dune commence un an après de départ de la planète du Chapitre. On suit donc l'Ithaque, vaisseau des héros sur un période de 19 ans. Durant cette période, on apprend à découvrir qui est l'ennemi extérieur et l'origine des Honorées Matriarche.
Ce livre n'est pas mauvais mais il est en dessous de ce que j'attendais. Ma comparaison se fait avec les autres livres des deux auteurs et non ceux de Frank Herbert. J'ai eu un sentiment que l'histoire tenait sur un fil mince. Il y avait des bouts qui étaient inutiles. Au moins, j'ai bien aimé la fin et j'ai hâte de lire la suite.
Les chasseurs de Dune commence un an après de départ de la planète du Chapitre. On suit donc l'Ithaque, vaisseau des héros sur un période de 19 ans. Durant cette période, on apprend à découvrir qui est l'ennemi extérieur et l'origine des Honorées Matriarche.
Ce livre n'est pas mauvais mais il est en dessous de ce que j'attendais. Ma comparaison se fait avec les autres livres des deux auteurs et non ceux de Frank Herbert. J'ai eu un sentiment que l'histoire tenait sur un fil mince. Il y avait des bouts qui étaient inutiles. Au moins, j'ai bien aimé la fin et j'ai hâte de lire la suite.
adventurous
mysterious
reflective
tense
slow-paced
Plot or Character Driven:
Plot
Strong character development:
Yes
Loveable characters:
No
Diverse cast of characters:
Yes
Flaws of characters a main focus:
Yes
adventurous
medium-paced
Plot or Character Driven:
Plot
Strong character development:
No
Loveable characters:
No
Diverse cast of characters:
Yes
Flaws of characters a main focus:
Yes
This is some of the dumbest shit of all time, Brian Herbert you are a con artist. The fact that he even claims there are any notes to base this off of is ludicrous. The ending of Chapterhouse is by far the most unwavering conclusion of a narrative I have ever come across.
This book is all over the place. Obviously, the transition from Frank to Brain is rough. The prose and pacing suffers immensely from this change, with a lot of the subtly that Frank Herbert employed being absent from this novel. The chapters as well are all very short, the longest not even 10 pages, which lends a choppy, staccato feel to the book. However, there are moments of brilliance and creativity in this book. The characters of Sheeana and Murabella were the two standouts for me in this novel. Sheeana feels like the last dying connection to the original Dune, and the exploration of her doubts and fears, as well as her leading of the Ithica were well done, and even her freeing of Idahao at the end of the novel felt like earned and spoke to her character. Murabella as well stood out, given the thankless job of trying to unite the warring factions of matres and gesserit, her characterization and growth harkens back to the original depictions of Paul and Leto II himself, as a leader who sees the threat coming and is willing to do whatever it takes to protect humanity. It is interesting seeing this from the Bene Gesserit's end, rather than having to rely on one with prescience.
Touching on the world building in this book, the axolotl tank reveal was properly foreshadowed, and the gross reveal definitely hit home. Spending time in Uxtal's POV makes for very uncomfortable reading, as this reveal and his inner monologues reveal the Tileaxu blatant and total disregard for the female gender, but his comeuppance during the climax of the book is fitting. This is tied into the reveal that the Honored Matres originated as freed axolotl tanks was another reveal that paid off spectacularly, with this new information connecting a lot of pre-existing puzzle pieces. The introduction of the mythical heroes of dune in the form of Gholas was definitely concerning at first, but so far in this novel they haven't played a huge role. They are there for their potential, not their current abilities, so it will have to be seen if it all turns out well. The big reveal of the enemy, the outside force that threatens humanity as being AI, the thinking machines, is a good reveal. Its a little goofy that they name-drop the two robots who were the old couple like we should know them, but apparently they are in the prequel books. The Golden Path leading to a road where humanity survives their fight with the AI is a satisfying conclusion to the endless questions surrounding it, and the third act reveals that answered majors questions really saved this book. If this book is anything to go off, I'm looking forward to the conclusion of the sprawling story of dune. It wouldn't be how Frank Herbert would of done it exactly, but this book gave me faith that the story can faithfully be concluded. 4.0 stars.
Touching on the world building in this book, the axolotl tank reveal was properly foreshadowed, and the gross reveal definitely hit home. Spending time in Uxtal's POV makes for very uncomfortable reading, as this reveal and his inner monologues reveal the Tileaxu blatant and total disregard for the female gender, but his comeuppance during the climax of the book is fitting. This is tied into the reveal that the Honored Matres originated as freed axolotl tanks was another reveal that paid off spectacularly, with this new information connecting a lot of pre-existing puzzle pieces. The introduction of the mythical heroes of dune in the form of Gholas was definitely concerning at first, but so far in this novel they haven't played a huge role. They are there for their potential, not their current abilities, so it will have to be seen if it all turns out well. The big reveal of the enemy, the outside force that threatens humanity as being AI, the thinking machines, is a good reveal. Its a little goofy that they name-drop the two robots who were the old couple like we should know them, but apparently they are in the prequel books. The Golden Path leading to a road where humanity survives their fight with the AI is a satisfying conclusion to the endless questions surrounding it, and the third act reveals that answered majors questions really saved this book. If this book is anything to go off, I'm looking forward to the conclusion of the sprawling story of dune. It wouldn't be how Frank Herbert would of done it exactly, but this book gave me faith that the story can faithfully be concluded. 4.0 stars.
I've had mixed experiences with the Brian Herbert and Kevin J Anderson Dune novels. Unfortunately, Hunters of Dune falls on the lower end. In the interests of full disclosure, I was never a big fan of Frank Herbert's Heretics and Chapterhouse, but I was curious to see if and how the story ended.
Hunters generally lacks a story. There are a lot of little subplots and characters moving around but, aside from the general threat of Face Dancers and the mysterious old man and woman, not much happens. Except for the fact that the crew of the Ithaca and the Face Dancers both decide to grow Gholas of historical figures, including Paul, Alia, Jessica, and just about everybody who had more than a cameo in the original Dune novel.
This could have been a great idea if it led to an exploration of the characters. Instead, if feels like the authors thought it would be neat to see the old gang back together again, but didn't know what to do with them. For the most part, the Gholas act just like their old selves. That 9-year-old Baron Harkonnen just loves to torture. Moreover, the book jumps ahead years with little development, either character or plotwise, in between. I got the sense that the only reason the story progressed so far ahead in time was to give the Gholas time to grow up.
The subplot with Mother Commander Murbella had some potential. Unlike the Honored Matres, she actually seems to have half a brain. The book follows her attempts to unify the sisterhood against the ominous threat. Unfortunately, her story is undercut by the fact that she conveniently doesn't remember what the threat actually is. So as readers it's tough to care or sympathize with her sense of dread.
Here's hoping the conclusion to the series, Sandworms of Dune, at least manages to move the plot along.
Hunters generally lacks a story. There are a lot of little subplots and characters moving around but, aside from the general threat of Face Dancers and the mysterious old man and woman, not much happens. Except for the fact that the crew of the Ithaca and the Face Dancers both decide to grow Gholas of historical figures, including Paul, Alia, Jessica, and just about everybody who had more than a cameo in the original Dune novel.
This could have been a great idea if it led to an exploration of the characters. Instead, if feels like the authors thought it would be neat to see the old gang back together again, but didn't know what to do with them. For the most part, the Gholas act just like their old selves. That 9-year-old Baron Harkonnen just loves to torture. Moreover, the book jumps ahead years with little development, either character or plotwise, in between. I got the sense that the only reason the story progressed so far ahead in time was to give the Gholas time to grow up.
The subplot with Mother Commander Murbella had some potential. Unlike the Honored Matres, she actually seems to have half a brain. The book follows her attempts to unify the sisterhood against the ominous threat. Unfortunately, her story is undercut by the fact that she conveniently doesn't remember what the threat actually is. So as readers it's tough to care or sympathize with her sense of dread.
Here's hoping the conclusion to the series, Sandworms of Dune, at least manages to move the plot along.
adventurous
challenging
mysterious
medium-paced
Plot or Character Driven:
Character
Strong character development:
Yes
Loveable characters:
Yes
Diverse cast of characters:
Yes
Flaws of characters a main focus:
Complicated