Reviews with content warning for Fatphobia - Dune

Dune cannot be separated from its context—the time and place it was written and by whom it was written—nor can it be separated from its monumental influence on the genre. The ecological themes it explores remain fascinating, and perhaps more relevant than ever; it's eco-conscious in a very astute, trailblazing way and reflects not only on significant environmental issues, but also on the systems and people who impact these issues and control resources, and consequently life itself. This aspect is thought-provoking and should be considered its lasting legacy. Yet, it's also an extremely dated novel in a lot of ways. It puts forward a very gender essentialist view of the world, and having two or three interesting female characters doesn’t change the fact that it holds regressive ideals. And although it has an interesting critique of imperialism—that spans the series, so I’ve heard—it’s extremely easy to misinterpret (asking people how they view Paul is a pretty great way of telling how they read the series; the answers vary <i>a lot</i>), and it often veers into orientalism. There’s also the main villain of this first book, who is the only fat character and only homosexual character, both of these being used to denote his depravity and evilness (not one “good” character who sees the Baron fails to mention how “fat” and “gross” he is, and he’s also a pedophile, Herbert making it clear that being a pedophile and a homosexual go hand in hand.) The writing itself is dull, often stilted, and not particularly engaging, although the world-building and political machinations (and Lady Jessica) keep the book going. I read this mainly (only) because my mother is a huge fan and has been trying to get me to read it since I was a kid. I went in with an open mind and an open heart, and although it’s far from my literary interests, I love to hear the way she talks about it and understand her perspective a little better through it.

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natalib's review against another edition

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adventurous challenging inspiring reflective tense medium-paced

Plot- or character-driven? A mix
Strong character development? Yes
Loveable characters? Yes
Diverse cast of characters? It's complicated
Flaws of characters a main focus? No

5.0

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astridrv's review against another edition

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adventurous challenging mysterious medium-paced

Plot- or character-driven? A mix
Strong character development? It's complicated
Loveable characters? It's complicated
Diverse cast of characters? Yes
Flaws of characters a main focus? It's complicated

I finished it! A very layered, complex books that was quite difficult to get into but rewarding after about a third. I am quite pleasantly surprised by the female characters (although gender essentialism remains). Big warning for fatphobia though, the villain is essentially described by his size as an incarnation of cruelty and greed in upsetting ways (add to that that he is gay and a pedophile, UGH). But otherwise, the deeper themes are very compelling, the writing is difficult but I think entirely on purpose, some sentences blew me away, and I hope to re read it some day. It is also interesting to couple this read with The Parable of the Sower, which also counts the birth of a messiah / goddess, but her theology is so communal, built on discussions with others, and faces greater difficulties than Paul does in this book. I would like to delve into that analysis a bit more some day...

In the end, this book is not even that long for the depth of the universe it presents. Onto the next one!

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lowkeymarie's review against another edition

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adventurous mysterious slow-paced

Plot- or character-driven? Plot
Strong character development? Yes
Loveable characters? It's complicated
Diverse cast of characters? It's complicated
Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes

2.0

Finally done, thank God. My interest in this steadily dropped as I got further in; the last few chapters especially were a real chore.

Hopefully the movie is better. (And chills out with the fatphobia/homophobia.) 🤞

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internalnonsense's review against another edition

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adventurous dark emotional reflective tense medium-paced

Plot- or character-driven? A mix
Strong character development? Yes
Loveable characters? It's complicated
Diverse cast of characters? It's complicated
Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes

4.0

It's a classic for a reason. Sure, there's a lot I did not enjoy about it, but for every wall I hit there were sections I absolutely flew through. If all you're looking for is epic sci fi with archetypical but still compelling characters, it'll work for you. For me, the most interesting aspect was seeing it's influence in sci Fi and fantasy--the politicking space opera, the making of the chosen one, the codex entries, self aware predetermination, tropes I've read dozens of times (done better and worse) but were really codified here.

Fair warning: it's still a book written in the 1960s. It as absolutely earns a "fair for it's day" tag but still has pervasive misogyny, homophobia, racism. Nothing blatantly offensive but enough to be uncomfortable at times.

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bumblebeefarts's review against another edition

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adventurous challenging slow-paced

Plot- or character-driven? A mix
Strong character development? Yes
Loveable characters? It's complicated
Diverse cast of characters? Yes
Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes

3.75

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blyndwolf's review against another edition

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adventurous challenging hopeful reflective slow-paced

Plot- or character-driven? A mix
Strong character development? Yes
Flaws of characters a main focus? It's complicated

4.0

Definitely the most challenging book I've ever read in terms of the sheer density of the thing! That being said, it was digestible enough to thoroughly enjoy, and I really enjoyed exploring this incredibly in-depth universe; especially the philosophy elements! It's almost like Herbert created this entire universe just for the philosophy. It's insanely thorough and thoughtful beyond words. Every action and thought of every character is illustrated beautifully; no element escapes description. This is a literary masterpiece for sure.

I think it can be universally said that the beginning of this book is hard to chew; there is a lot of worldbuilding and lore thrust at you, and a lot of characters to remember. If you grind through it, it doesn't take long before everything starts falling into place, and you wonder how you were ever lost. I will say, though, that this book should get a medal for the amount of times it made me fall asleep. I think I fell asleep over 20 times while reading it; not because it was boring, but because it was so dense. One scene might take 30+ minutes to read, due to the high level of description and detail. The plot also slows down quite a bit in the centre of the book and doesn't pick up again until you're ~80% of the way through

when Paul is reunited with Gurney Halleck

. I also feel like the ending was a bit rushed.

All in all, I'm super glad I decided to pick up Dune and am absolutely gassed for the movie coming out in October!! I will be there!

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