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directorpurry's review against another edition
dark
emotional
reflective
medium-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? Character
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? No
- Diverse cast of characters? Yes
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
4.75
Content Warnings
Graphic: Sexual content, Violence, Murder, Rape, Sexual violence, Body shaming, Child abuse, Eating disorder, and Infidelity
bookishmillennial's review against another edition
dark
mysterious
sad
tense
slow-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? It's complicated
- Loveable characters? It's complicated
- Diverse cast of characters? Yes
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
disclaimer if you’ve read other reviews by me and are noticing a pattern: You’re correct that I don’t really give starred reviews, I feel like a peasant and don’t like leaving them and most often, I will only leave them if I vehemently despised a book. I enjoy most books for what they are, & I extract lessons from them all. Everyone’s reading experiences are subjective, so I hope my reviews provide enough information to let you know if a book is for you or not, regardless if I add stars or not. Find me on Instagram: @bookish.millennial or tiktok: @bookishmillennial
Look, this is a compelling read but holyyyyyyyyy shit, are these humans insufferable!!!! The text examines topics of family, optics, wealth, classism, racism, being othered, and doing whatever you can to get what you want.
This made me think of how I felt when I was watching the first few episodes of Succession and I didn't realize it was a dramedy(drama/comedy). I was literally sitting there thinking, 'Why are all of these people SO horrible to each other?!' That's how I felt about the characters in White Ivy, but it never got better and it never made me laugh like Succession did.
I don't love the homophobic undertones of your sexuality being compared to an ACTUAL crime .... Other than this, the book did reel me in from start to finish and I finished in one sitting because I was curious how this mess would play out.
Look, this is a compelling read but holyyyyyyyyy shit, are these humans insufferable!!!! The text examines topics of family, optics, wealth, classism, racism, being othered, and doing whatever you can to get what you want.
This made me think of how I felt when I was watching the first few episodes of Succession and I didn't realize it was a dramedy(drama/comedy). I was literally sitting there thinking, 'Why are all of these people SO horrible to each other?!' That's how I felt about the characters in White Ivy, but it never got better and it never made me laugh like Succession did.
I don't love the homophobic undertones of your sexuality being compared to an ACTUAL crime .... Other than this, the book did reel me in from start to finish and I finished in one sitting because I was curious how this mess would play out.
Content Warnings
Graphic: Eating disorder, Physical abuse, Murder, and Toxic relationship
Moderate: Sexual content, Domestic abuse, and Infidelity
Minor: Suicidal thoughts and Homophobia
lilacs_book_bower's review against another edition
challenging
informative
reflective
medium-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? Character
- Strong character development? No
- Loveable characters? No
- Diverse cast of characters? Yes
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
3.0
White Ivy was an intriguing book, and I enjoyed reading it, but I feel classifying it as a thriller is a stretch. There was little suspense or danger until the end, and even all of that was entirely predictable. However I did really enjoy reading about Ivy's experience and POV as a Chinese-born young woman raised in the US and the pressure she felt to fit in, moving between two different cultures and two different classes. None of the characters were especially likable (I include Ivy), so I was mostly reading for insight into Ivy's POV and experiences as an Asian American young woman.
Content Warnings
Graphic: Child abuse, Eating disorder, Classism, Medical content, Emotional abuse, Murder, Racism, Toxic relationship, and Xenophobia
knkoch's review against another edition
dark
sad
tense
medium-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? Plot
- Strong character development? It's complicated
- Loveable characters? No
- Diverse cast of characters? Yes
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
2.5
Hmmm. I feel conflicted about this one. It read like a literary thriller, and reminded me a lot of Lucy Foley’s The Guest List, with a bit less propulsion and plot twist. The sinister natures of the characters, the internal anguish, haunted pasts, corruptive nature of visible wealth and luxury, not to mention the deep dread of an upcoming wedding (!).
There are some interesting ideas explored here, like the contrast between visible and quiet wealth. The way the wholesomeness of Gideon and Ivy’s families seem to switch from childhood to adulthood, in the same way their finances do, seems to speak to the way poverty grinds people down into worse versions of themselves. And the treatment of the Lin’s immigrant experience is handled well. But I can’t really see myself recommending this book. I lost heart in all of the characters about two thirds of the way through. When I can’t identify with anyone’s choices or motivations in a story, I struggle to stay invested in the outcome. To me, there’s just no light in this. I guess I need more of that in a story, somewhere, so this one was just too dark and grim for me.
There are some interesting ideas explored here, like the contrast between visible and quiet wealth. The way the wholesomeness of Gideon and Ivy’s families seem to switch from childhood to adulthood, in the same way their finances do, seems to speak to the way poverty grinds people down into worse versions of themselves. And the treatment of the Lin’s immigrant experience is handled well. But I can’t really see myself recommending this book. I lost heart in all of the characters about two thirds of the way through. When I can’t identify with anyone’s choices or motivations in a story, I struggle to stay invested in the outcome. To me, there’s just no light in this. I guess I need more of that in a story, somewhere, so this one was just too dark and grim for me.
Content Warnings
Graphic: Eating disorder and Mental illness
Moderate: Sexual assault, Physical abuse, Sexual content, Infidelity, Death, and Alcohol
kylieqrada's review against another edition
dark
emotional
medium-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? Character
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? No
- Diverse cast of characters? Yes
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
2.0
She's just not for me.
Content Warnings
Graphic: Murder, Eating disorder, and Physical abuse
Moderate: Mental illness, Domestic abuse, and Sexual content
Minor: Suicidal thoughts
readwithbells's review
dark
sad
tense
medium-paced
3.5
This book was a wild ride and one of the bleakest romances I’ve read. Ivy starts off as being an understandably bratty kid and becomes an absolutely wholly unlikeable character (which was definitely the point). I loved the writing of this book - Susie Yang had my attention from the very first paragraph which I can’t say for most books I read.
I just kind of wish there was something more here. It was enjoyable and upsetting and I don’t think I’ve yelled that aggressively at a book character in a long time but I can’t say I really LIKED the book.
An interesting character study - like watching a train crash: you can’t bear to look away but you also can’t say you enjoyed the ride.
I just kind of wish there was something more here. It was enjoyable and upsetting and I don’t think I’ve yelled that aggressively at a book character in a long time but I can’t say I really LIKED the book.
An interesting character study - like watching a train crash: you can’t bear to look away but you also can’t say you enjoyed the ride.
Content Warnings
Graphic: Domestic abuse
Minor: Eating disorder and Sexual assault
kelly_e's review against another edition
dark
tense
medium-paced
2.0
Title: White Ivy
Author: Susie Yang
Genre: Contemporary Fiction
Rating: 2.0
Pub Date: November 3, 2020
T H R E E • W O R D S
Daring • Vindictive • Modern
📖 S Y N O P S I S
Ivy Lin, moved to America with her family as a young girl and grows up in a low-income complex in Massachusetts while attending a wealthy school thanks to her father's job. Her grandmother, and mentor, has taught her to take what she wants or needs. She is desperate to assimilate with her peers, but her family has other plans for her. When she develops an obsession with golden-boy Gideon Speyer, her overbearing mother steps in. Throughout all of this Ivy develops a taste for winning and wealth, and will go to great lengths to get what she wants. An exploration of immigration, class, race, family and identity.
💭 T H O U G H T S
White Ivy is the immigrant story I was not expecting from debut author Susie Yang. With a cast of complex characters, the real stand out here is the writing. Yang built the drama and intensity in such a way that the reader feels immersed in Ivy's story as she tests the boundaries in order to get what she wants. I also liked the exploration of opposing forces; preserving heritage and tradition, or assimilating. But for me that good end there, and without the help of the audiobook I'm not sure I would have made it through. I definitely have a hard time getting behind such a manipulative, narcissistic, and selfish character, where at times it simply felt the author was going for shock value.
Ivy is definitely a character I won't soon forget, so I guess Yang has succeed there, but this story was just not for me.
📚 R E C O M M E N D • T O
• readers who like unlikeable characters
• anyone looking for an own voices immigrant story
🔖 F A V O U R I T E • Q U O T E S
"She had long ago realized that the truth wasn't important, it was the apperance of things that would serve her.
Muddy water, let stand, becomes clear."
Author: Susie Yang
Genre: Contemporary Fiction
Rating: 2.0
Pub Date: November 3, 2020
T H R E E • W O R D S
Daring • Vindictive • Modern
📖 S Y N O P S I S
Ivy Lin, moved to America with her family as a young girl and grows up in a low-income complex in Massachusetts while attending a wealthy school thanks to her father's job. Her grandmother, and mentor, has taught her to take what she wants or needs. She is desperate to assimilate with her peers, but her family has other plans for her. When she develops an obsession with golden-boy Gideon Speyer, her overbearing mother steps in. Throughout all of this Ivy develops a taste for winning and wealth, and will go to great lengths to get what she wants. An exploration of immigration, class, race, family and identity.
💭 T H O U G H T S
White Ivy is the immigrant story I was not expecting from debut author Susie Yang. With a cast of complex characters, the real stand out here is the writing. Yang built the drama and intensity in such a way that the reader feels immersed in Ivy's story as she tests the boundaries in order to get what she wants. I also liked the exploration of opposing forces; preserving heritage and tradition, or assimilating. But for me that good end there, and without the help of the audiobook I'm not sure I would have made it through. I definitely have a hard time getting behind such a manipulative, narcissistic, and selfish character, where at times it simply felt the author was going for shock value.
Ivy is definitely a character I won't soon forget, so I guess Yang has succeed there, but this story was just not for me.
📚 R E C O M M E N D • T O
• readers who like unlikeable characters
• anyone looking for an own voices immigrant story
🔖 F A V O U R I T E • Q U O T E S
"She had long ago realized that the truth wasn't important, it was the apperance of things that would serve her.
Muddy water, let stand, becomes clear."
Content Warnings
Graphic: Eating disorder, Murder, Death, Physical abuse, and Domestic abuse
Moderate: Sexual content, Toxic relationship, Infidelity, Mental illness, Body shaming, and Fatphobia
Minor: Ableism
depression,mncollins's review against another edition
dark
mysterious
reflective
medium-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? Character
- Strong character development? It's complicated
- Loveable characters? It's complicated
- Diverse cast of characters? Yes
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
4.25
This was an excellent read, and always kept me guessing. I expected it to be more of a thriller, but it was more literary fiction with some dark elements. Ivy’s decisions throughout were fascinating and it was interesting to see how she justified things based on familial expectations or experiences. While Ivy and her family were not necessarily likeable, I really enjoyed the story.
Content Warnings
Moderate: Domestic abuse, Child abuse, and Murder
Minor: Eating disorder
thenovelmaura's review against another edition
dark
reflective
medium-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? Character
- Strong character development? It's complicated
- Loveable characters? It's complicated
- Diverse cast of characters? Yes
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
4.0
A Booksta friend told me before this book was even released that I would like it, and she was right! I had a great time reading about someone who was so much more real than she was likeable. At first I thought Ivy was manipulative, and those who label her as such aren't wrong. It seems more accurate to describe her as an expert at reading people and acting in ways they wanted so that she could be liked. Although she did sometimes use this skill to get her way, I felt she was as much a victim to this oppressive need to be adored as her targets were. Maybe this sympathetic view came easier to me because of the initial chapters where we're told how Ivy wanted to be white and wanted to be pretty (because you can't have one without the other) in her majority-white school, pre-adolescent feelings I recognized all too well. It was brilliant how Yang started with Ivy's childhood so that the reader could see how this vibrant, flawed being came into existence.
Anyway, I definitely don't condone all of Ivy's choices, but they made for a fascinating story. And the audiobook was very well-done, too. Yang is a talented author and I can hardly believe this is her debut!
Anyway, I definitely don't condone all of Ivy's choices, but they made for a fascinating story. And the audiobook was very well-done, too. Yang is a talented author and I can hardly believe this is her debut!
Content Warnings
Graphic: Eating disorder, Mental illness, and Murder
sloanefg's review against another edition
dark
emotional
mysterious
medium-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? It's complicated
- Loveable characters? It's complicated
- Diverse cast of characters? Yes
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
3.0
Content Warnings
Graphic: Murder
Moderate: Eating disorder and Physical abuse