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gracescanlon's review against another edition
adventurous
challenging
dark
emotional
mysterious
sad
tense
medium-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? Character
- Loveable characters? Yes
- Diverse cast of characters? Yes
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
4.25
Grey, girl, love ya but man are you dumb like 60% of the time.
Dark, twisty, tense, deeply sad and intensely atmospheric — Dark and Shallow Lies is a heavy read, but worthwhile. It knocked the wind out of me completely time and time again. Sain did a wonderful job with the setting; as a Southern girl from a swamp-like area myself, I felt myself choking on the humidity and heat as much as the secrets.
I especially liked how “full circle” the book was — specifically with uncovering the secrets and lies that poisoned La Cachette and ultimately led to so much death and pain.
Not sure I believe the “sparks” Grey feels when Zale touches her aren’t just his power rather than her body’s natural reaction to him, but he’s sweet, so I’ll allow it.
Also wasn’t a huge fan of the Hart and Elora bit, especially since he seemed so sketchy in a dangerous way throughout the book. HOW is it that almost no other reviews mention that???? There was also no real hint as to their being involved in any way, though that could be attributed to Grey’s being kinda dumb. Also their being together was kinda gross — they’ve lived as siblings for more than half their lives? It’s not like their parents are newly married, which would still have been eh but much better than two kids raised as siblings for like a decade “falling in love.”
Dark, twisty, tense, deeply sad and intensely atmospheric — Dark and Shallow Lies is a heavy read, but worthwhile. It knocked the wind out of me completely time and time again. Sain did a wonderful job with the setting; as a Southern girl from a swamp-like area myself, I felt myself choking on the humidity and heat as much as the secrets.
I especially liked how “full circle” the book was — specifically with uncovering the secrets and lies that poisoned La Cachette and ultimately led to so much death and pain.
Content Warnings
Graphic: Child abuse, Child death, Cursing, Death, Domestic abuse, Physical abuse, Toxic relationship, Violence, Blood, Kidnapping, Grief, Death of parent, Murder, Fire/Fire injury, Toxic friendship, Alcohol, and Injury/Injury detail
Moderate: Body horror, Drug use, Emotional abuse, Gore, Gun violence, Infidelity, Panic attacks/disorders, Self harm, Sexual content, Suicidal thoughts, Suicide, Torture, Vomit, and Suicide attempt
Minor: Confinement, Incest, Pedophilia, Slavery, Trafficking, Pregnancy, Outing, Abandonment, and Colonisation
chanlo1994's review against another edition
dark
emotional
mysterious
sad
tense
medium-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? Plot
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? It's complicated
- Diverse cast of characters? Yes
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
5.0
The scenery details are so realistic. I can smell the mud and feel the heat of the Gulf Coast. I really love Ginny's writing. The ending!!!! I'm like WHOA. The way it wraps up... its incredible. Genius, really. I might have to sit on my couch and do nothing but process for a couple minutes.
Content Warnings
Graphic: Alcoholism, Child abuse, Child death, Death, Domestic abuse, Mental illness, Panic attacks/disorders, Physical abuse, Suicidal thoughts, Toxic relationship, Violence, Vomit, Kidnapping, Grief, Murder, Toxic friendship, Abandonment, and Alcohol
Moderate: Gun violence, Death of parent, and Fire/Fire injury
Minor: Addiction, Body horror, and Blood
Additional content warnings: drowning, hurricanessiennabea's review against another edition
dark
emotional
mysterious
sad
tense
slow-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? Character
- Strong character development? No
- Loveable characters? It's complicated
- Diverse cast of characters? No
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
2.75
I think this book was good, I just wish it had a bit more description on who the characters actually were.
It dealed with grief okay, but the last few chapters where it all came together was truly my favourite part.
It dealed with grief okay, but the last few chapters where it all came together was truly my favourite part.
Content Warnings
Moderate: Alcoholism, Child death, Cursing, Death, Mental illness, Suicidal thoughts, Death of parent, Toxic friendship, and Alcohol
Minor: Child abuse, Domestic abuse, and Blood
bookboxbabe's review against another edition
dark
emotional
mysterious
sad
tense
medium-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? Plot
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? Yes
- Diverse cast of characters? No
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
5.0
no one speak to me for a bit, i’m not well
this book is beautiful and gut wrenching at the same time. it’s raw and feels like you’re being ripped open and spilt onto the pages.
i loved the small town dynamics, the mystery that kept me guessing till the very end, and the whiplash of reveals felt like i myself was in the middle of the hurricane
the summer children will forever be in my heart
this book is beautiful and gut wrenching at the same time. it’s raw and feels like you’re being ripped open and spilt onto the pages.
i loved the small town dynamics, the mystery that kept me guessing till the very end, and the whiplash of reveals felt like i myself was in the middle of the hurricane
the summer children will forever be in my heart
Content Warnings
Graphic: Death, Emotional abuse, Physical abuse, Grief, Death of parent, and Murder
Moderate: Self harm, Suicidal thoughts, Suicide, Suicide attempt, and Toxic friendship
laylareadsthings's review against another edition
dark
emotional
sad
tense
slow-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? N/A
- Strong character development? No
- Loveable characters? No
- Diverse cast of characters? Yes
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
2.75
This is a tough one to review for me. I really enjoyed the writers style, and her descriptions, the ambience she creates is stunning. I will definitely keep an eye out for more works from her.
Unfortunately, the plot was so incredibly slow moving I had a hard time getting through this. It’s tagged as a murder mystery, but there is nothing to unfold here. There are no hints given along the way, no way for the reader to resolve what’s happening or form theories. For about 350 pages, it felt like a hamster wheel of continuous conversations where nothing was revealed, and no action was taken. Everyone wants to solve the crime! But absolutely no one, not a single person is willing to have even the remotest hint of a conversation about it. The main character spends the entirety of the book fixated on and frustrated by her inability to solve the murder, but literally ANY time she discovers a clue, or needs to ask someone something she just… doesn’t. Instead it’s more inner monologue about how upset she is that she can’t solve the crime.
Again, I think the backdrop and atmosphere were quite literally perfect - but the plot and character development was so flat for me, I really had to stop myself from DNFing multiple times.
Unfortunately, the plot was so incredibly slow moving I had a hard time getting through this. It’s tagged as a murder mystery, but there is nothing to unfold here. There are no hints given along the way, no way for the reader to resolve what’s happening or form theories. For about 350 pages, it felt like a hamster wheel of continuous conversations where nothing was revealed, and no action was taken. Everyone wants to solve the crime! But absolutely no one, not a single person is willing to have even the remotest hint of a conversation about it. The main character spends the entirety of the book fixated on and frustrated by her inability to solve the murder, but literally ANY time she discovers a clue, or needs to ask someone something she just… doesn’t. Instead it’s more inner monologue about how upset she is that she can’t solve the crime.
Again, I think the backdrop and atmosphere were quite literally perfect - but the plot and character development was so flat for me, I really had to stop myself from DNFing multiple times.
Content Warnings
Graphic: Child abuse, Death, Domestic abuse, Suicidal thoughts, Grief, Death of parent, and Murder
laneysix's review against another edition
dark
emotional
mysterious
sad
tense
medium-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? Yes
- Diverse cast of characters? Yes
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
5.0
Content Warnings
Graphic: Child death, Violence, Blood, and Murder
Moderate: Death of parent
Minor: Adult/minor relationship, Child abuse, Self harm, Suicidal thoughts, Suicide, and Alcohol
elizabethgreads's review against another edition
dark
emotional
mysterious
tense
medium-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? Yes
- Diverse cast of characters? Yes
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
4.0
A spooky and atmospheric read.
The author created a spooky atmospheric book set in a coastal Louisiana small town. The characters are multideminsual, flawed, and real. The setting feels authentic and is wonderfully described. Every character as their own secrets which creates a lot of mystery and tension. The book is a small town suspense book with paranormal elements. This is not a true thriller. If you love psychics and other mystical powers you should considering giving this book a try.
The author created a spooky atmospheric book set in a coastal Louisiana small town. The characters are multideminsual, flawed, and real. The setting feels authentic and is wonderfully described. Every character as their own secrets which creates a lot of mystery and tension. The book is a small town suspense book with paranormal elements. This is not a true thriller. If you love psychics and other mystical powers you should considering giving this book a try.
Content Warnings
Graphic: Emotional abuse, Physical abuse, and Suicidal thoughts
Moderate: Addiction, Child abuse, Child death, Domestic abuse, and Sexual assault
rayneyisreading's review against another edition
dark
emotional
mysterious
sad
tense
fast-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? Character
- Strong character development? It's complicated
- Loveable characters? It's complicated
- Diverse cast of characters? No
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
4.0
Content Warnings
Graphic: Body horror, Child abuse, Child death, Cursing, Death, Suicidal thoughts, Suicide, Blood, Vomit, Death of parent, Murder, and Injury/Injury detail
Moderate: Domestic abuse
Minor: Gun violence
rowanelisa's review
dark
mysterious
tense
medium-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? It's complicated
- Loveable characters? It's complicated
- Diverse cast of characters? Yes
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
4.0
Content Warnings
Graphic: Child abuse, Child death, Death, Domestic abuse, Mental illness, Suicidal thoughts, Suicide, Blood, Vomit, Kidnapping, Grief, Death of parent, Murder, and Alcohol
onceuponabookcase's review
challenging
dark
emotional
mysterious
sad
tense
medium-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? Yes
- Diverse cast of characters? Yes
- Flaws of characters a main focus? No
5.0
I was originally drawn to Deep and Shallow Lies by Ginny Myers Sain because of the beautiful cover, but knew I had to read it as soon as I read the blurb. A murder mystery set in a town full of psychics, right on a bayou? How could I not read it? And it was absolutely incredible!
Grey lived in the small town La Cachette - the hidding place - right up until she was eight, and her mother died by suicide. Since then, she's lived with her father, but would return to the bayou, go back home, every summer, to live with her grandmother. Back to where she belongs, back with the other Summer Children, her friends who were all born in the same summer. Only this year is different. Six months ago, her best friend Elora disappeared without a trace. La Cachette is grieving, and Grey especially so. But as Grey tries to piece together what happened that night, she discovers links to La Cachette's past, a past dark and full of secrets, and a stranger who connects them all. La Cachette's lies are slowly rising to the surface.
Dark and Shallow Lies is a slow burner. It's not action packed until quite near the end, but quiet and atmospheric, and utterly gripping. Grey's grief is palpable on every page, but she simply cannot accept that Elora is gone, and that's it. She needs to know what happened, to find out where she is, even as she she slowly comes to accept that Elora is most likely dead, and she's determined to discover the truth. But La Cachette has been looking for Elora for six months, what is Grey likely to find that they missed? So not a massive amount happens in the great scheme of things; Grey works at the Mystic Rose, her grandmother's shop, she hangs out with her friends, and she gets to know the stranger living out on Keller Island, Zale. Her friendships are different, especially with Hart, who was Elora's step-brother. Elora, Hart, and Grey were inseparable, and Hart is struggling just as much as Elora. Their relationship is strained; they're both lost without Elora, and only each other really understands the other's pain, but there is always that missing part. Add the fact that Grey has always been a little bit in love with Hart, an everything gets a little complicated.
As the weeks pass, Grey learns slithers of what happened that night, along with the flashes she's now having. In a town full of psychics, Grey was the only one who didn't have any kind of ability. #hart is an empath, and can feel others' emotions like they're his own; Elora was a water witch; Honey, Grey's grandmother, is a medium and gets messages from the dead; Sera and Sander, twins, get visions that they translate into art; Mackey gets death warnings just before someone dies; Case can bilocate, be in two places at once. But Grey has spent her whole life being the odd one out, until now. Now, she's getting flashes, visions of the moments just before Elora's death. Little glimpses that give her very little information. But with her flashes and the slithers she learns from the people of La Cachette, and about the town's past, she tries to piece things together. And I right along with her.
I cannot tell you how many times my theories changed. I stuck with two most of the time, and kept switching between them as I read. I would be so sure about who the murderer was, but then we'd learn something that would make me doubt it, make me think is was something else, and become so sure again, only to end up doubting again. Back and forth I went throughout the whole story. I never knew who to trust, and Myers Sain kept me guessing right up until the very end. And I was completely wrong! We start to get some answers throughout the last 30% of the story, several reveals, and even as we got answer after answer, I still wasn't entirely sure who the murderer was, still going back of forth, to the point where I was at a complete loss as to who bloody killed her! But the reveals kept coming, and it just blew my mind. Dark and Shallow Lies might be a quiet slow burner, but my god, is it intricately plotted! When the pieces finally start to full into place, it was shock after shock. Each reveal just bowled me over, and I am just in such complete awe of how Myers Sain created such a story! Looking back over the whole thing, all those tiny slithers, all those subtle hints, and the red herrings! Dark and Shallow Lies is a goddamned masterpiece!
I also need to comment on the amazing symbolism. La Cachette is white all over, all of the buildings, the boardwalk the town is built on to raise it above the water level, everything. But underneath the white paint, the wood is starting to rot, and the wood is crumbling away - to the point where it collapses underneath Grey's feet at one point. While it looks so clean and pristine, underneath, La Cachette is rotting. Literally and figuratively. The secrets of the past are eating away at the town, and it was just so apt that the floor is literally crumbling away beneath them.
I can't not talk about the setting itself either, which is a character in itself. The Mississippi River, the bayou, Li'l Pass, the wetlands of Keller Island. Grey's love for the town, and where the town is located is just as strong as her love for Elora, and it breathes with it's own life. It's knows La Cachette's secrets, it knows them in it's bones, and I couldn't help but think that it had it's own opinion about what had been going on there. The hurricane that starts up and heads La Cachette's way over a number of days is no coincidence, not when the water turns on the town.
I stayed up late to finish Dark and Shallow Lies, because I couldn't put it down as things were revealed, and I just had to know. And then I lay in bed for ages just thinking about it. Not just about how intricate and clever the plotting was, but just how incredibly heartbreaking this story is. I absolutely could not help but hurt for the characters. It's so overwhelmingly sad; what happened in the past, what happened six months ago, and what is happening right now. While the reveals were all completely shocking, they were also unbelievably tragic, and I was just so overcome. This book really hit me like a ton of bricks.
Dark and Shallow Lies is such an incredible story. Expertly crafted, keeping you guessing until the very, very end, and but also absolutely agonising. I completely adore this book, and cannot recommend it enough. Ginny Myers Sain is not an author to miss, and I will look forward to whatever she writes next.
Grey lived in the small town La Cachette - the hidding place - right up until she was eight, and her mother died by suicide. Since then, she's lived with her father, but would return to the bayou, go back home, every summer, to live with her grandmother. Back to where she belongs, back with the other Summer Children, her friends who were all born in the same summer. Only this year is different. Six months ago, her best friend Elora disappeared without a trace. La Cachette is grieving, and Grey especially so. But as Grey tries to piece together what happened that night, she discovers links to La Cachette's past, a past dark and full of secrets, and a stranger who connects them all. La Cachette's lies are slowly rising to the surface.
Dark and Shallow Lies is a slow burner. It's not action packed until quite near the end, but quiet and atmospheric, and utterly gripping. Grey's grief is palpable on every page, but she simply cannot accept that Elora is gone, and that's it. She needs to know what happened, to find out where she is, even as she she slowly comes to accept that Elora is most likely dead, and she's determined to discover the truth. But La Cachette has been looking for Elora for six months, what is Grey likely to find that they missed? So not a massive amount happens in the great scheme of things; Grey works at the Mystic Rose, her grandmother's shop, she hangs out with her friends, and she gets to know the stranger living out on Keller Island, Zale. Her friendships are different, especially with Hart, who was Elora's step-brother. Elora, Hart, and Grey were inseparable, and Hart is struggling just as much as Elora. Their relationship is strained; they're both lost without Elora, and only each other really understands the other's pain, but there is always that missing part. Add the fact that Grey has always been a little bit in love with Hart, an everything gets a little complicated.
As the weeks pass, Grey learns slithers of what happened that night, along with the flashes she's now having. In a town full of psychics, Grey was the only one who didn't have any kind of ability. #hart is an empath, and can feel others' emotions like they're his own; Elora was a water witch; Honey, Grey's grandmother, is a medium and gets messages from the dead; Sera and Sander, twins, get visions that they translate into art; Mackey gets death warnings just before someone dies; Case can bilocate, be in two places at once. But Grey has spent her whole life being the odd one out, until now. Now, she's getting flashes, visions of the moments just before Elora's death. Little glimpses that give her very little information. But with her flashes and the slithers she learns from the people of La Cachette, and about the town's past, she tries to piece things together. And I right along with her.
I cannot tell you how many times my theories changed. I stuck with two most of the time, and kept switching between them as I read. I would be so sure about who the murderer was, but then we'd learn something that would make me doubt it, make me think is was something else, and become so sure again, only to end up doubting again. Back and forth I went throughout the whole story. I never knew who to trust, and Myers Sain kept me guessing right up until the very end. And I was completely wrong! We start to get some answers throughout the last 30% of the story, several reveals, and even as we got answer after answer, I still wasn't entirely sure who the murderer was, still going back of forth, to the point where I was at a complete loss as to who bloody killed her! But the reveals kept coming, and it just blew my mind. Dark and Shallow Lies might be a quiet slow burner, but my god, is it intricately plotted! When the pieces finally start to full into place, it was shock after shock. Each reveal just bowled me over, and I am just in such complete awe of how Myers Sain created such a story! Looking back over the whole thing, all those tiny slithers, all those subtle hints, and the red herrings! Dark and Shallow Lies is a goddamned masterpiece!
I also need to comment on the amazing symbolism. La Cachette is white all over, all of the buildings, the boardwalk the town is built on to raise it above the water level, everything. But underneath the white paint, the wood is starting to rot, and the wood is crumbling away - to the point where it collapses underneath Grey's feet at one point. While it looks so clean and pristine, underneath, La Cachette is rotting. Literally and figuratively. The secrets of the past are eating away at the town, and it was just so apt that the floor is literally crumbling away beneath them.
I can't not talk about the setting itself either, which is a character in itself. The Mississippi River, the bayou, Li'l Pass, the wetlands of Keller Island. Grey's love for the town, and where the town is located is just as strong as her love for Elora, and it breathes with it's own life. It's knows La Cachette's secrets, it knows them in it's bones, and I couldn't help but think that it had it's own opinion about what had been going on there. The hurricane that starts up and heads La Cachette's way over a number of days is no coincidence, not when the water turns on the town.
I stayed up late to finish Dark and Shallow Lies, because I couldn't put it down as things were revealed, and I just had to know. And then I lay in bed for ages just thinking about it. Not just about how intricate and clever the plotting was, but just how incredibly heartbreaking this story is. I absolutely could not help but hurt for the characters. It's so overwhelmingly sad; what happened in the past, what happened six months ago, and what is happening right now. While the reveals were all completely shocking, they were also unbelievably tragic, and I was just so overcome. This book really hit me like a ton of bricks.
Dark and Shallow Lies is such an incredible story. Expertly crafted, keeping you guessing until the very, very end, and but also absolutely agonising. I completely adore this book, and cannot recommend it enough. Ginny Myers Sain is not an author to miss, and I will look forward to whatever she writes next.
Content Warnings
Moderate: Domestic abuse, Gun violence, and Suicidal thoughts
Minor: Self harm, Blood, and Vomit