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emoryjoy's review against another edition
challenging
dark
mysterious
sad
tense
slow-paced
2.0
This never happens... The show is better. That may be in large part due to the fact that in the show, you don't get Quentin's inner monologue. If this is what the average man's thoughts are like, then you can have me down as a certified man hater. He is a very sad man who needs more therapy than he would ever be willing to pursue.
I've listened to this book twice now, (it's my cousin's favorite and I really tried to like it-) and I hated it both times. I will say this though, this book accidentally kicked me out of my reading slump. It was so awful that I needed a pallet cleanser and so I checked out all of my favorite childhood series and then was able to start reading all of these other things that had been on my list. I'm updating this review about 2 years later and I have not slowed down my reading since then. So it gets an extra star for that.
I've listened to this book twice now, (it's my cousin's favorite and I really tried to like it-) and I hated it both times. I will say this though, this book accidentally kicked me out of my reading slump. It was so awful that I needed a pallet cleanser and so I checked out all of my favorite childhood series and then was able to start reading all of these other things that had been on my list. I'm updating this review about 2 years later and I have not slowed down my reading since then. So it gets an extra star for that.
Content Warnings
Graphic: Addiction, Alcoholism, Animal death, Body horror, Bullying, Cursing, Emotional abuse, Gore, Panic attacks/disorders, Sexism, Sexual content, Suicidal thoughts, Blood, Grief, Stalking, Schizophrenia/Psychosis , Abandonment, Alcohol, Sexual harassment, and Injury/Injury detail
tbd24's review
adventurous
dark
funny
tense
medium-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? It's complicated
- Loveable characters? Yes
- Diverse cast of characters? No
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
4.0
I rather like this series, this is the second time i’ve read it and there are just really great turns of phrase in the prose. I love world building and this book embraces that times three, the magic system is cool and complicated and the characters are never just good people. Quentin is shitty and obnoxious but like what 17 yr old “gifted kid” isn’t? There’s a few questionable moments, the author loves to make women suffer viscerally a little too much in my opinion, but at least he still remembers to make them people. Overall, it’s a good read and an interesting series
Content Warnings
Graphic: Addiction, Alcoholism, Animal death, Death, Infidelity, Mental illness, Suicidal thoughts, Violence, and Alcohol
Minor: Ableism, Adult/minor relationship, Body horror, Child death, Cursing, Drug use, Fatphobia, Homophobia, Misogyny, Pedophilia, Racism, Sexism, Sexual assault, Suicide, Violence, Excrement, Medical content, Religious bigotry, Fire/Fire injury, Cultural appropriation, and Injury/Injury detail
minechatz's review
adventurous
dark
funny
medium-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? Character
- Strong character development? No
- Loveable characters? No
- Diverse cast of characters? No
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
2.0
I really loved Eliot. Wish I could airdrop him out of this book and into one that understands like, addiction and homophobia.
I generally find shitty book protagonists to be interesting with the caveat that they're written well. Quentin isn't written especially well. He's got like, the self-infatuation of Ged from Earthsea, without any of the nuance that made Ged interesting and, eventually, redeemable. Not that a protagonist needs to be redeemable -- but they do need to be interesting. Quentin just is.
My sense is that this book was written as a part of the "gritty fairy tale" tide that produced one good thing [i.e. Wicked] and many, many stinkers. Like many of those stinkers, The Magicians doesn't understand what made the original stories tick, and isn't actually interested in subverting them. Its interest begins and ends in being able to say, "Oh, aren't I cooler than you for not caring?" [TW: CSA.]The clearest manifestation of this is saying that one character was molested by the author who wrote down his magical adventures for publication. This is a clear pass at James Matthew Barrie, who didn't actually do that. Even if he had -- there's something to actually explore there, about the exploitation of childhood even by beloved adults. Grossman isn't interested in any such exploration.
I don't super mind that the book sort of skipped through Brakebills, and at first thought it was maybe a good choice. Grossman assumed we were familiar with the notion of magic school, and only really showed us his innovations on the form. Fair play. The issue came in when the book never stopped skipping through things. Episodic stories can work, of course, but in Magicians it's simply disjointed. It felt like we were constantly speeding through a part of the tape to get to the good bit, but the good bit never came.
The way The Beast was described was compelling. It's just too bad he only showed up twice. Most of the really interesting and compelling bits -- the things that made me keep reading -- only show up once or twice. In my opinion, if Grossman had developed things like The Beast, and the notion of magic as G-d's tools, this book would have earned all the rave reviews on its cover. As it is, it's aged pretty poorly. I genuinely feel like if this had gotten some more structural edits it would be much, much better.
tl;dr It's compelling enough for me to get the next one from the library, but I would be a little annoyed if I had bought this. You know?
I generally find shitty book protagonists to be interesting with the caveat that they're written well. Quentin isn't written especially well. He's got like, the self-infatuation of Ged from Earthsea, without any of the nuance that made Ged interesting and, eventually, redeemable. Not that a protagonist needs to be redeemable -- but they do need to be interesting. Quentin just is.
My sense is that this book was written as a part of the "gritty fairy tale" tide that produced one good thing [i.e. Wicked] and many, many stinkers. Like many of those stinkers, The Magicians doesn't understand what made the original stories tick, and isn't actually interested in subverting them. Its interest begins and ends in being able to say, "Oh, aren't I cooler than you for not caring?" [TW: CSA.]
I don't super mind that the book sort of skipped through Brakebills, and at first thought it was maybe a good choice. Grossman assumed we were familiar with the notion of magic school, and only really showed us his innovations on the form. Fair play. The issue came in when the book never stopped skipping through things. Episodic stories can work, of course, but in Magicians it's simply disjointed. It felt like we were constantly speeding through a part of the tape to get to the good bit, but the good bit never came.
The way The Beast was described was compelling. It's just too bad he only showed up twice. Most of the really interesting and compelling bits -- the things that made me keep reading -- only show up once or twice. In my opinion, if Grossman had developed things like The Beast, and the notion of magic as G-d's tools, this book would have earned all the rave reviews on its cover. As it is, it's aged pretty poorly. I genuinely feel like if this had gotten some more structural edits it would be much, much better.
tl;dr It's compelling enough for me to get the next one from the library, but I would be a little annoyed if I had bought this. You know?
Content Warnings
Graphic: Infidelity
Moderate: Adult/minor relationship, Body horror, Child death, and Pedophilia
Minor: Child abuse
giulianac27's review
adventurous
dark
emotional
mysterious
sad
tense
medium-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? It's complicated
- Loveable characters? No
- Diverse cast of characters? No
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
3.25
Content Warnings
Graphic: Body horror, Cursing, Death, Violence, Blood, Medical trauma, Murder, and Alcohol
ireadinbed's review against another edition
adventurous
challenging
emotional
funny
mysterious
sad
tense
slow-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? Character
- Strong character development? It's complicated
- Loveable characters? It's complicated
- Diverse cast of characters? Yes
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
2.0
I cannot in good conscience give this book higher than a 3 rating. Despite definitely planning to read on.
Lev Grossman is a deeply weird person. There's way too many weird phrases about balls and people fucking animals. . .or being animals fucking. . .idk it's weird.
Also I fucking hate the main character. He's getting a bit more bearable at the end, and no one says the main character has to be likable(I love the poppy war and the main character is an insufferable drug addicted war criminal), but it's like reading catcher in the rye with magic and I can't explain how much I hated Holden in that book. They are the same.
I do however love some of the supporting cast and the way that the books never feel like they are going to let you see the point. The only dance around it. Interested to see where they go.
Lev Grossman is a deeply weird person. There's way too many weird phrases about balls and people fucking animals. . .or being animals fucking. . .idk it's weird.
Also I fucking hate the main character. He's getting a bit more bearable at the end, and no one says the main character has to be likable(I love the poppy war and the main character is an insufferable drug addicted war criminal), but it's like reading catcher in the rye with magic and I can't explain how much I hated Holden in that book. They are the same.
I do however love some of the supporting cast and the way that the books never feel like they are going to let you see the point. The only dance around it. Interested to see where they go.
Content Warnings
Graphic: Body horror, Death, and Alcohol
Moderate: Animal cruelty, Fatphobia, Infidelity, Mental illness, and Suicidal thoughts
Minor: Sexual harassment
azebrareads's review against another edition
adventurous
challenging
dark
emotional
reflective
fast-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? Character
- Strong character development? It's complicated
- Loveable characters? It's complicated
- Diverse cast of characters? No
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
4.0
Content Warnings
Minor: Addiction, Alcoholism, Body horror, Death, Drug abuse, Drug use, Emotional abuse, Fatphobia, Infidelity, Mental illness, Panic attacks/disorders, Rape, Sexism, Sexual content, Suicidal thoughts, Toxic relationship, Violence, Vomit, and Grief