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skylarkblue1's review against another edition
There's just constant POV changes to everyone and everything - including the goddamn dog. It's not split up by chapters, it'd just be one paragraph is from one character, the next from someone completely different. I could not tell you what year any of the events that happened are from. I could not even really tell you all the different characters and who they where as people because honestly most of them didn't feel like people. The guys where mainly just misogynistic pricks, though some liked rowing! but that was about it for them. The women where mainly just "I'm being looked down on and abused but I'm secretly smart!" or just, idk, like not wanting to challenge the status quo so they where even flatter than that?
I'm reading this for a book club but even though there's still multiple days before the meeting I just don't care enough to read more. I don't even care about the cooking show element which was super interesting to me when I first heard about it.
Graphic: Sexual assault, Sexual violence, Pregnancy, Death, Toxic friendship, Sexual harassment, Toxic relationship, Misogyny, Sexism, Rape, and Fatphobia
gracielou2000's review against another edition
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? No
- Loveable characters? It's complicated
- Diverse cast of characters? No
- Flaws of characters a main focus? It's complicated
3.5
Graphic: Emotional abuse, Grief, Misogyny, Pregnancy, Rape, Religious bigotry, Sexism, Sexual violence, Sexual harassment, Gaslighting, and Sexual assault
Moderate: Drug use, Child abuse, Death of parent, Infidelity, Eating disorder, Pedophilia, Domestic abuse, Body shaming, and Car accident
Minor: Fatphobia, Abortion, and Addiction
kyjade_x's review against another edition
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? Yes
- Diverse cast of characters? No
5.0
Graphic: Sexism, Misogyny, Rape, Death, Bullying, and Grief
Moderate: Sexual violence, Sexual assault, Religious bigotry, Pregnancy, Sexual harassment, Car accident, and Suicide
Minor: Fatphobia, Body shaming, and Domestic abuse
carleesi's review against another edition
Graphic: Rape and Fatphobia
The description of the rapist is so fatphobic. The links between fatness, monstrosity and disgust were incredibly blatant. As a survivor I felt sick listening to a rape, and as a fat woman I was forced into the understanding that actually my body was the kind that perpetrates sexual violence. It was a really horrendous experience.nwood1121's review against another edition
- Plot- or character-driven? Character
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? It's complicated
- Diverse cast of characters? No
4.75
Graphic: Sexual assault, Rape, Misogyny, Sexual violence, Sexism, and Sexual harassment
Moderate: Death, Abandonment, Suicide, Body shaming, Car accident, and Religious bigotry
Minor: Homophobia, Fatphobia, and Police brutality
cmbohn's review against another edition
- Plot- or character-driven? Character
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? Yes
- Diverse cast of characters? No
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
4.5
Graphic: Sexism, Misogyny, Sexual harassment, and Sexual assault
Moderate: Pregnancy, Toxic relationship, and Death
Minor: Suicide, Body shaming, Fatphobia, Gaslighting, and Biphobia
madzie's review against another edition
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? No
- Loveable characters? No
- Diverse cast of characters? No
- Flaws of characters a main focus? It's complicated
1.0
Additionally, Garmus's writing style is subpar at best. She seems to believe her readers are stupid as she tells them absolutely everything in frank detail and covers it over with big "sciency" words, never allowing the writing to breathe. Her sentences are simple and often boringly strung together, never giving vivid detail to her world to allow the reader to experience it. Occasionally, she'll hit gold with a particular line, but overall, she seems to favor hovering over everything just to produce a mess of thoughts. In the end, the novel reads like a string of random ideas never actually explored in depth—the substance of a first draft but not of a good novel.
Graphic: Death, Car accident, Sexism, Rape, and Sexual assault
Moderate: Death of parent and Suicide
Minor: Body shaming and Fatphobia
ktbelliss's review against another edition
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? No
- Loveable characters? Yes
- Diverse cast of characters? Yes
- Flaws of characters a main focus? No
4.0
Graphic: Suicide, Sexual assault, Injury/Injury detail, Car accident, Fatphobia, Rape, Sexual harassment, Sexual violence, Sexism, Grief, Religious bigotry, Pregnancy, and Death
Covers what life was like as a woman in the workplace in the 1950s and 60s, including mulitple instances ofdaniofthewood's review against another edition
- Plot- or character-driven? Plot
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? No
- Diverse cast of characters? No
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
3.0
Graphic: Sexual assault and Rape
Moderate: Sexism, Death, Injury/Injury detail, Misogyny, and Fatphobia
Minor: Homophobia and Suicide
mannieg's review against another edition
- Plot- or character-driven? Character
- Strong character development? No
- Loveable characters? No
- Diverse cast of characters? No
- Flaws of characters a main focus? No
2.0
- All of the characters were caricatures – and all of the men were pigs or cowards. Yes, including the “good ones.” The ones that aren’t slobbering sexual predators are utterly spineless
(the TV producer) or secretly act against Elizabeth’s expressed wishes because they know what’s best for her(Calvin) . And fine, if you want to show the how harmful the patriarchy is for men, that’s a valid and worthwhile endeavor but after a few timid passes this book just entirely gave up on that angle in favor of making Elizabeth the ONLY “good” character in the book. - Rewarmed, uncritical second-wave feminism. It is 2024. How can you write a book set in 1950s California and not have a single POC? How can you present the experiences of an absurdly intelligent white woman who is fortunate enough to own a house and have unlimited, unpaid childcare from her abused neighbor as a rugged individualist who successfully beats the system? How come all of these women who consume her show have no agency, are unable to advocate for themselves except through Elizabeth Zott, and never found a way to articulate their dissatisfaction with being housewives until she came along? There is a complete lack of recognition or empathy towards the experiences of literally every other woman – except maybe for the one who became a heart surgeon. Eye roll. And while quite a bit of hay is made about gender traitors
like the secretary (who just so happened to be fat and ugly) Elizabeth made a living off of these dissatisfied housewives and then dropped them like hot potatoes because that job wasn’t professionally fulfilling for her. A shining example of women supporting women. - Cut the capitalist crap. Why do I get the impression this book is telling me financial earnings and professional accomplishments determine the value of a human life? That gainful employment is the desired end state of every man and woman in the world? I am descended from a long line of what this book would derisively call housewives who lived happy, fulfilled lives and were fully actualized individuals in their own rights. There is no one in this book who represents that reality. A woman who is forced to work a crappy minimum wage job has suffered a loss of agency the same way that one who is forced to stay home and mind the kids has suffered a loss of agency.
- Where is the “historical” in “historical fiction”? I hate that this book passes itself off as in any way historical when it’s really a mish-mash of all of the worst stereotypes about the 50s crammed into a single book and then dialed up to 11. Not only that, Elizabeth herself is completely anachronistic – but anachronistic as if her daughter wrote the story. (Oh wait…) Some elements of this book might count as historical but giving it the imprimatur of historical fiction makes it seem like it’s more than a boomer author preaching to the millennials about “how good you have it, now sit down and stop talking about intersectionality.”
- Bury the Gays! Perhaps a minor quibble but I really thought we had progressed beyond stories where homosexual characters die tragically just so that readers (or other characters) can discover themselves.
So glad the only non-straight individual in this ENTIRE book offs himself in the first chapter for the sole purpose of Elizabeth’s personal growth. Love that for him.
Graphic: Sexual harassment, Sexual assault, and Sexual violence
Moderate: Fatphobia, Domestic abuse, Body shaming, and Death