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trintrin's review
adventurous
challenging
dark
emotional
funny
mysterious
sad
tense
fast-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? Yes
- Diverse cast of characters? No
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
5.0
I genuinely don't think I can put my love for this book into words. So here's a list of all the things that made me go insane:
- Best boy Noah being fascinated by a snow globe, my hearttt
- Ronan throwing Noah out of the window AHAHAHAH
- Every Ronan/Noah interaction actually. Those two are comedy gold. Something about the way Ronan treats Noah like he would treat any other makes my insides tingle
- Chainsaw being so adorable :(( I really really hope they don't kill Chainsaw off just because it would be a tearjerker, I will actually kill myself
- Gansey being the bestest best friend you could ever ask for. The things I would do to have an irl Gansey.
- Like when he thought his car was wrecked and was so nervous he couldn't even bring himself to glance at the car. But then he saw Ronan smiling and just melted???
- "His face went somber for half a second, and then it dissolved into an absolutely wonderful and fearless laugh. The old Ronan Lynch’s laugh. No, it was better than that one, because this new one had just a hint of darkness beneath it. This Ronan knew there was crap in the world, but he was laughing anyway." KILL ME RN
- The Blue and Noah kissing scene just broke my heart
- The Blue and Gansey not-quite-kissing scene broke my heart as well
- The Blue and Adam no-kisses-for-you scene broke my heart way too much
- Ronan and Gansey casually flirting ("Am I in your dreams?" "Oh, yes, baby", "While I'm gone, dream me the world. Something new for every night." etc)
- Ronan and Gansey being canonically shipped together but Ronan seeing Gansey as more of a brother than Declan
- Ronan having erotic dreams about Adam??????????????????
- Ronan and Adam mask dream vs. irl scene ooooooof
- Ronan's many secrets and him struggling to admit everything to himself
- Ronan's conversation with Kavinsky helping him figure everything out. "You didn't say you don't swing that way" "No, I didn't"
- Just Ronan in general. His powers, his character, his humour, he's the absolute best part of the book. I thought he's gonna be one of those overdone bad-boy-with-a-heart-of-gold trope, but he's genuinely the best of them all.
- Blue's family made a lot more appearances and I'm happy. Calla and Persephone are amazing, I hope they never experience a tinge of sadness in their lives. Orla ("i'M fLeXiBLe") jkhadfsme too.
- Ronan's childhood? For some reason I expected him to like hate his childhood or whatever but I'm so so glad we got to see him be that vulnerable. "Softly, just for Gansey, he asked, “Can I go and see Mom?”
- I still don't understand what's the issue with Declan. Matthew is adorable though. Protect him.
- Mr. Gray's character development ("I'm not a kidnapper"), his convo with those other thugs, him killing off his brother like a savage, his adoration for Maura (same, bestie)
- Adam running off like that. Adam being insecure. Adam thinking he's turning into his parents. Adam just not knowing what to do. Adam forgetting Gansey's phone number. Adam getting angry at everything. Adam not being with the others that much at all for the entire book. "Do you think you’re a train wreck?" "That would mean I was on the tracks to start with"
- Adam and Persephone working together in the end. That was very much needed
- Blue's pink switchblade. "They were a good pair. Both incapable of opening up without cutting someone."
- I loved Blue even more in this one. The way she's dealing with all this mess is quite mature for her age. I love how she takes absolutely no shits, be it from Adam or Ronan or Gansey (not Noah, ofc. My wittle Noah would never harm anyone)
- Wild!Gansey, Wild!Gansey, Wild!Gansey, Wild!Gansey, Wild!Gansey, Wild!Gansey
- Blue and Gansey's casual back and forth, the late night phone calls, the long drive together
- The casual banter between all of them in general. And the character dynamics. It's all so well done, literally every character (including the side characters) already made their way up my top characters of all time list
- The foreshadowing??? From the first book??? The way it all pays off???? So many things that I never caught on despite it being literally right. there.
- THE EPILOGUE!! I'm generally not a fan of epilogues but this one was beautiful??? I would even say it's the best part of the book
Other thoughts:
- There wasn't that much chemistry between Gansey and Blue in the last book, but I feel like it kinda improved with this one. It's still not the best (even Ronan and Kavinsky had better chemistry), but it's better ig? I can already tell it's only going to get better from here on. And I'm glad they're taking it slow.
- Adam slowly eroding my heart with the way he treats those who care about him. I'm glad he got a character development in the end cuz I don't think I could've continued reading with him staying that way. It's worse because I completely understand where he is coming from, but I wish it didn't have to be that way
- Mr. Gray?? Where did he even come from? Why the sudden change in character after years of being a hitman. Him and Maura getting that close that fast? I hope we get to see more of him in the next one cuz I need answers
- Considering I didn't care much for Glendower, I really like the plot of this book hehehe
- Kavinsky?? He got such an abrupt conclusion, I don't know what to make of him, but ok. He was interesting at the very least ig
- This book could've done well with some diversity but I'm not really complaining
- Except the internalised misogyny in the Orla scene made me so uncomfortable. Blue, all she's doing is wearing a bikini on a boat, is that so wrong? I understand why the boys were acting that way but Blue?? The feminist Blue who takes no shits from anyone?? The one that wears shredded t-shirts and has an unevenly chopped hair just to stand out??
- NOT ENOUGH NOAH. GIVE ME MORE NOAH
- Seriously though, I really wish Noah could be a solid part of the Raven squad now. Hopefully that is the case from the next book onwards. Since the ley line is fixed, there is absolutely no reason for Noah to stay out of all this
Overall, this book had fantastic characters and a fantastic plot. It might even rival with Crooked Kingdom on being my all time favourite book, and that's saying a lot!
- Best boy Noah being fascinated by a snow globe, my hearttt
- Ronan throwing Noah out of the window AHAHAHAH
- Every Ronan/Noah interaction actually. Those two are comedy gold. Something about the way Ronan treats Noah like he would treat any other makes my insides tingle
- Chainsaw being so adorable :(( I really really hope they don't kill Chainsaw off just because it would be a tearjerker, I will actually kill myself
- Gansey being the bestest best friend you could ever ask for. The things I would do to have an irl Gansey.
- Like when he thought his car was wrecked and was so nervous he couldn't even bring himself to glance at the car. But then he saw Ronan smiling and just melted???
- "His face went somber for half a second, and then it dissolved into an absolutely wonderful and fearless laugh. The old Ronan Lynch’s laugh. No, it was better than that one, because this new one had just a hint of darkness beneath it. This Ronan knew there was crap in the world, but he was laughing anyway." KILL ME RN
- The Blue and Noah kissing scene just broke my heart
- The Blue and Gansey not-quite-kissing scene broke my heart as well
- The Blue and Adam no-kisses-for-you scene broke my heart way too much
- Ronan and Gansey casually flirting ("Am I in your dreams?" "Oh, yes, baby", "While I'm gone, dream me the world. Something new for every night." etc)
- Ronan and Gansey being canonically shipped together but Ronan seeing Gansey as more of a brother than Declan
- Ronan having erotic dreams about Adam??????????????????
- Ronan and Adam mask dream vs. irl scene ooooooof
- Ronan's many secrets and him struggling to admit everything to himself
- Ronan's conversation with Kavinsky helping him figure everything out. "You didn't say you don't swing that way" "No, I didn't"
- Just Ronan in general. His powers, his character, his humour, he's the absolute best part of the book. I thought he's gonna be one of those overdone bad-boy-with-a-heart-of-gold trope, but he's genuinely the best of them all.
- Blue's family made a lot more appearances and I'm happy. Calla and Persephone are amazing, I hope they never experience a tinge of sadness in their lives. Orla ("i'M fLeXiBLe") jkhadfs
- Ronan's childhood? For some reason I expected him to like hate his childhood or whatever but I'm so so glad we got to see him be that vulnerable. "Softly, just for Gansey, he asked, “Can I go and see Mom?”
- I still don't understand what's the issue with Declan. Matthew is adorable though. Protect him.
- Mr. Gray's character development ("I'm not a kidnapper"), his convo with those other thugs, him killing off his brother like a savage, his adoration for Maura (same, bestie)
- Adam running off like that. Adam being insecure. Adam thinking he's turning into his parents. Adam just not knowing what to do. Adam forgetting Gansey's phone number. Adam getting angry at everything. Adam not being with the others that much at all for the entire book. "Do you think you’re a train wreck?" "That would mean I was on the tracks to start with"
- Adam and Persephone working together in the end. That was very much needed
- Blue's pink switchblade. "They were a good pair. Both incapable of opening up without cutting someone."
- I loved Blue even more in this one. The way she's dealing with all this mess is quite mature for her age. I love how she takes absolutely no shits, be it from Adam or Ronan or Gansey (not Noah, ofc. My wittle Noah would never harm anyone)
- Wild!Gansey, Wild!Gansey, Wild!Gansey, Wild!Gansey, Wild!Gansey, Wild!Gansey
- Blue and Gansey's casual back and forth, the late night phone calls, the long drive together
- The casual banter between all of them in general. And the character dynamics. It's all so well done, literally every character (including the side characters) already made their way up my top characters of all time list
- The foreshadowing??? From the first book??? The way it all pays off???? So many things that I never caught on despite it being literally right. there.
- THE EPILOGUE!! I'm generally not a fan of epilogues but this one was beautiful??? I would even say it's the best part of the book
Other thoughts:
- There wasn't that much chemistry between Gansey and Blue in the last book, but I feel like it kinda improved with this one. It's still not the best (even Ronan and Kavinsky had better chemistry), but it's better ig? I can already tell it's only going to get better from here on. And I'm glad they're taking it slow.
- Adam slowly eroding my heart with the way he treats those who care about him. I'm glad he got a character development in the end cuz I don't think I could've continued reading with him staying that way. It's worse because I completely understand where he is coming from, but I wish it didn't have to be that way
- Mr. Gray?? Where did he even come from? Why the sudden change in character after years of being a hitman. Him and Maura getting that close that fast? I hope we get to see more of him in the next one cuz I need answers
- Considering I didn't care much for Glendower, I really like the plot of this book hehehe
- Kavinsky?? He got such an abrupt conclusion, I don't know what to make of him, but ok. He was interesting at the very least ig
- This book could've done well with some diversity but I'm not really complaining
- Except the internalised misogyny in the Orla scene made me so uncomfortable. Blue, all she's doing is wearing a bikini on a boat, is that so wrong? I understand why the boys were acting that way but Blue?? The feminist Blue who takes no shits from anyone?? The one that wears shredded t-shirts and has an unevenly chopped hair just to stand out??
- NOT ENOUGH NOAH. GIVE ME MORE NOAH
- Seriously though, I really wish Noah could be a solid part of the Raven squad now. Hopefully that is the case from the next book onwards. Since the ley line is fixed, there is absolutely no reason for Noah to stay out of all this
Overall, this book had fantastic characters and a fantastic plot. It might even rival with Crooked Kingdom on being my all time favourite book, and that's saying a lot!
Content Warnings
Graphic: Violence, Alcohol, Drug use, Alcoholism, and Drug abuse
Moderate: Death of parent, Gun violence, Physical abuse, Homophobia, Car accident, Stalking, Death, Grief, Domestic abuse, Fire/Fire injury, Toxic friendship, Kidnapping, and Suicide
Minor: Sexism, Religious bigotry, Misogyny, Cursing, and Classism
ifoundcallie's review against another edition
adventurous
funny
mysterious
reflective
tense
slow-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? Character
- Strong character development? It's complicated
- Loveable characters? It's complicated
- Diverse cast of characters? It's complicated
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
3.5
Content Warnings
Graphic: Kidnapping, Blood, Bullying, Car accident, Death, Homophobia, Outing, Drug use, Drug abuse, Gaslighting, Mental illness, Murder, Toxic friendship, Toxic relationship, Violence, and Alcohol
Moderate: Body horror, Classism, Grief, Kidnapping, Torture, Death of parent, Fire/Fire injury, Gore, Injury/Injury detail, Stalking, Emotional abuse, and Gun violence
Minor: Alcoholism, Religious bigotry, Self harm, Animal death, Child abuse, Cursing, Misogyny, Physical abuse, Animal cruelty, and Suicidal thoughts
A homophobic slur is used on page, fair warning.cowardlyteaman's review against another edition
adventurous
challenging
dark
emotional
funny
mysterious
tense
medium-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? Character
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? Yes
- Diverse cast of characters? No
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
4.75
So, I absolutely love this book. Perhaps even more than the first one. Yeah, this one was way more fun.
I love Ronan's POV! He's such an interesting character, and though he's «edgy» in a way, I don't feel like it goes overboard.
I also adore the Gray Man. I love to read about him,and I think his dynamic with Maura works well.
The only thing I have to say is that ... well, I frankly cannot stand Blue. Maybe I'm just a misogynist, but that girl and her entire family (with the exception of Maura) is just not it for me. Frankly, her entire plot could've just been removed, because so far I don't really see the relevance.
However, back to my beloved birds and Welsh Kings——
Dwi'n caru ti, Glyndŵr.🫶 I'm learning Welsh and adore the references to Anglo-Saxons and Celts here. A bit confused about why they're looking for a mediaeval old Welsh fart in Virginia, but I'll accept it.
And Chainsaw, I love her, too.
Having serious homosexual feelings for Joseph Kavinsky. I don't want to talk about it.
The nightmare corvid monsters are cool, too. 10/10
So, this book is definitely recommended! I may or may not be the only person who dislikes Blue, I dunno, but don't let her stop you from reading this.
I love Ronan's POV! He's such an interesting character, and though he's «edgy» in a way, I don't feel like it goes overboard.
I also adore the Gray Man. I love to read about him,
The only thing I have to say is that ... well, I frankly cannot stand Blue. Maybe I'm just a misogynist, but that girl and her entire family (with the exception of Maura) is just not it for me. Frankly, her entire plot could've just been removed, because so far I don't really see the relevance.
However, back to my beloved birds and Welsh Kings——
Dwi'n caru ti, Glyndŵr.🫶 I'm learning Welsh and adore the references to Anglo-Saxons and Celts here. A bit confused about why they're looking for a mediaeval old Welsh fart in Virginia, but I'll accept it.
And Chainsaw, I love her, too.
Having serious homosexual feelings for Joseph Kavinsky. I don't want to talk about it.
The nightmare corvid monsters are cool, too. 10/10
So, this book is definitely recommended! I may or may not be the only person who dislikes Blue, I dunno, but don't let her stop you from reading this.
Content Warnings
Graphic: Blood, Drug abuse, Death, Alcohol, Cursing, Violence, Murder, Physical abuse, Drug use, and Child abuse
Moderate: Homophobia and Sexual content
Minor: Religious bigotry, Sexism, Child abuse, Suicide attempt, Misogyny, and Death of parent
bi_n_large's review against another edition
adventurous
emotional
hopeful
mysterious
reflective
tense
medium-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? Yes
- Diverse cast of characters? No
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
4.5
Content Warnings
Graphic: Drug use, Toxic friendship, Toxic relationship, and Violence
Moderate: Murder, Torture, Child abuse, Physical abuse, Alcohol, and Death
Minor: Abandonment, Suicide, Suicidal thoughts, and Misogyny
antonia_00's review against another edition
adventurous
dark
emotional
mysterious
tense
slow-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? Yes
- Diverse cast of characters? No
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
5.0
I’m a little speechless right now. Wow. The second part was as good as the first one. The content is downright fascinating, especially the end. I think it’s great that Ronan had more chapters in this book and we finally learned something about him. Maggie Stiefvater manages to impress me every time with her books.
Content Warnings
Graphic: Cursing, Addiction, Alcoholism, Blood, Car accident, Drug use, Gun violence, and Toxic friendship
Moderate: Death of parent, Domestic abuse, Emotional abuse, Homophobia, Misogyny, Murder, and Racism
grimmdark's review against another edition
adventurous
dark
mysterious
sad
medium-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? Yes
- Diverse cast of characters? Yes
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
4.5
Content Warnings
Graphic: Blood, Car accident, Cursing, Death, Death of parent, Drug use, Fire/Fire injury, Grief, Murder, and Violence
Moderate: Child abuse, Domestic abuse, Emotional abuse, Gore, Gun violence, Homophobia, Injury/Injury detail, Toxic friendship, and Alcohol
Minor: Kidnapping, Mental illness, Misogyny, Physical abuse, and Self harm
gothicmoon's review against another edition
adventurous
dark
emotional
mysterious
reflective
tense
medium-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? Character
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? Yes
- Diverse cast of characters? No
- Flaws of characters a main focus? It's complicated
4.0
Same writing quality and better characterisation for Ronan, Noah (in the beginning), and further explorations of Gansey, Blue, and Adam. However, between Kavinsky's constant (and purposeful) misogynistic comments and Blue's own misogynistic thoughts at Orla... it takes away from the book. Also, the plot doesn't quite hold up, either. <spoiler)I don't understand how Ronan could've been meant to dream something to solve a problem he didn't know he had? The puzzle box ends up being more of a mcguffin than anything else. Also Ronans entire problem is simply because his dad is an ass and never thought him how to dream.
Another downfall is that I simply do not enjoy Gray Man pov.
Another downfall is that I simply do not enjoy Gray Man pov.
Content Warnings
Graphic: Addiction, Alcoholism, Body horror, Death of parent, Drug abuse, Drug use, Gore, Grief, Homophobia, Kidnapping, Murder, Self harm, Suicidal thoughts, Suicide attempt, Toxic relationship, Violence, Death, and Suicide
Moderate: Misogyny, Sexism, and Xenophobia
Minor: Animal cruelty and Torture
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