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3.75 AVERAGE
3.75 AVERAGE
informative
inspiring
reflective
medium-paced
Plot or Character Driven:
Character
Strong character development:
Yes
Loveable characters:
Yes
Diverse cast of characters:
No
Flaws of characters a main focus:
No
Difficile mettere insieme in modo semplice secoli di filosofia, l'autore ci riesce. Piacevolissima lettura, abbastanza metafisica la trama. Tutto sommato promosso, ma non ai livelli di De Crescenzo, forse sarò di parte :)
adventurous
informative
reflective
slow-paced
Plot or Character Driven:
N/A
Strong character development:
N/A
Loveable characters:
N/A
Diverse cast of characters:
N/A
Flaws of characters a main focus:
N/A
informative
mysterious
reflective
medium-paced
Plot or Character Driven:
A mix
Strong character development:
Yes
Loveable characters:
Yes
خب، الان چند روز می شه که می خوام ریویوی این کتاب رو بنویسم، اما وقت نشده.
بذار از اول شروع کنم. من می خواستم برم انسانی، و هرکی می گفت دانشگاه چی، می گفتم فلسفه، احتمالا. و وقتی می پرسیدن چرا؟ می گفتم: نمی دونم، دوستش دارم.
اگر بخوام راستش رو بگم، من عملا هیچی از فلسفه نمی دونستم، فقط حس می کردم خیلی خفنم اگه وقتی همه به نقاشی و ریاضی و... علاقه دارن، موضوع مورد علاقه من فلسفه باشه.
تا این که بعد از غر زدن ها و اصرارهای زیاد پدر و مادرم، مبنی بر این که چه قدر رمان می خونی، یه ذره هم مطلب علمی بخون، نجوم بخون، فلسفه بخون و... رفتم سراغ این کتاب که یکی دو سالی می شد که توی کتابخونه خاک می خورد. اولاش، قسمتای علمی رو تند تند می خوندم و رد می کردم تا به قسمت داستانی ش و ماجرای هیلده و سرگرد برسه، چون واقعا برام خیلی خسته کننده بود و تند تند می خوندمش که تموم شه، با خودم می گفتم این بود اون چیزی که تو می خواستی چهار سال عمرت رو بذاری و بری دانشگاه بخونیش؟ خوب شد زودتر فهمیدی و می تونی راحت نظرت رو عوض کنی. اما خب، از یه جایی به بعد دیگه جذبش شدم و با علاقه همه کتاب رو می خوندم، گرچه این اصلا کتابی نیست که آدم بشینه تفننی بخوندش و به همین خاطر هم این همه خوندنش برای من طول کشید و اگه بخوام که واقعا همه چیز رو خوب خوب بفهمم، باید یکی دو بار دیگه هم بخونمش، فعلا که حسش نیست، ولی ایشالا یه روزی می خونمش دوباره.
بزرگترین انتقادی که از نظر من به این کتاب وارده، حجم فوق العاده زیادشه که هم دافعه داره و هم فرو کردن این همه مطلب توی مغز با یه کتاب، کار سختیه. شاید، شاید اگه این کتاب مثلا یه مجموعه دو، سه جلدی بود، خیلی بهتر می شد و مخاطبی هم که عادت به حجمای ززیاد نداشت سراغش می رفت. به علاوه، مغز رو هم خسته نمی کرد و فهم مطالب ساده تر می شد.
در آخر، من از یه چیزی ناراحت شدم، اون هم این که این کتاب فقط و فقط درمورد فلاسفه ی غرب بود و حتی ردپای یک فیلسوف شرقی، یا فلاسفه اسلامی توش دیده نمی شد. شاید ما هم باید دست به کار شیم و یه دنیای سوفی برای فیلسوف های این وری بنویسیم.
بذار از اول شروع کنم. من می خواستم برم انسانی، و هرکی می گفت دانشگاه چی، می گفتم فلسفه، احتمالا. و وقتی می پرسیدن چرا؟ می گفتم: نمی دونم، دوستش دارم.
اگر بخوام راستش رو بگم، من عملا هیچی از فلسفه نمی دونستم، فقط حس می کردم خیلی خفنم اگه وقتی همه به نقاشی و ریاضی و... علاقه دارن، موضوع مورد علاقه من فلسفه باشه.
تا این که بعد از غر زدن ها و اصرارهای زیاد پدر و مادرم، مبنی بر این که چه قدر رمان می خونی، یه ذره هم مطلب علمی بخون، نجوم بخون، فلسفه بخون و... رفتم سراغ این کتاب که یکی دو سالی می شد که توی کتابخونه خاک می خورد. اولاش، قسمتای علمی رو تند تند می خوندم و رد می کردم تا به قسمت داستانی ش و ماجرای هیلده و سرگرد برسه، چون واقعا برام خیلی خسته کننده بود و تند تند می خوندمش که تموم شه، با خودم می گفتم این بود اون چیزی که تو می خواستی چهار سال عمرت رو بذاری و بری دانشگاه بخونیش؟ خوب شد زودتر فهمیدی و می تونی راحت نظرت رو عوض کنی. اما خب، از یه جایی به بعد دیگه جذبش شدم و با علاقه همه کتاب رو می خوندم، گرچه این اصلا کتابی نیست که آدم بشینه تفننی بخوندش و به همین خاطر هم این همه خوندنش برای من طول کشید و اگه بخوام که واقعا همه چیز رو خوب خوب بفهمم، باید یکی دو بار دیگه هم بخونمش، فعلا که حسش نیست، ولی ایشالا یه روزی می خونمش دوباره.
بزرگترین انتقادی که از نظر من به این کتاب وارده، حجم فوق العاده زیادشه که هم دافعه داره و هم فرو کردن این همه مطلب توی مغز با یه کتاب، کار سختیه. شاید، شاید اگه این کتاب مثلا یه مجموعه دو، سه جلدی بود، خیلی بهتر می شد و مخاطبی هم که عادت به حجمای ززیاد نداشت سراغش می رفت. به علاوه، مغز رو هم خسته نمی کرد و فهم مطالب ساده تر می شد.
در آخر، من از یه چیزی ناراحت شدم، اون هم این که این کتاب فقط و فقط درمورد فلاسفه ی غرب بود و حتی ردپای یک فیلسوف شرقی، یا فلاسفه اسلامی توش دیده نمی شد. شاید ما هم باید دست به کار شیم و یه دنیای سوفی برای فیلسوف های این وری بنویسیم.
La parte más de "manual" me gustó mucho. En cambio, la "novela en sí" no tanto, aunque tampoco hace molesta la lectura. Lo recomendaría para comenzar a familiarizarse con la filosofía.
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شاید لحظه‌‌ای از لحظات شلوغ، پرهیاهو و یا منحصر به فرد.
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This book is beautiful but it is slow and it needs you to be in the mood to appreciate it.
It was at times textbooky but throughout, it has a kind cozy feel to it. I did not expect to love the story and get hooked in at the later parts of the story but after progressing through the story and reaching a certain chapter, the story starts to get interesting and work along with the philosophy. It was a pleasant and exciting surprise to love the story as much as I did.
How, you ask? A mere bagatelle.
It was at times textbooky but throughout, it has a kind cozy feel to it. I did not expect to love the story and get hooked in at the later parts of the story but after progressing through the story and reaching a certain chapter, the story starts to get interesting and work along with the philosophy. It was a pleasant and exciting surprise to love the story as much as I did.
How, you ask? A mere bagatelle.
Don't judge a book by its cover we're told, but how can one not judge this book by its cover? The cover is actually one of the main reasons I bought the book. It's dreamy, artistic, and makes one curious as to what wonders it holds inside.
In addition to wonders, readers will find that this particular book also holds many questions, such as "Who are we?" and "Where does the world come from?" Once exposed to such questions there is no door to escape through. One can't help but wonder about the answers to such questions even when not reading the book. The lesson to be taken from this book is that none of these questions have definitive answers and that one shouldn't be surprised if the answers to the questions are questions themselves.
How does one even begin to tackle these loaded questions? The book presents readers with a framework or foundation in which they can use philosophy to answer the questions. The book teaches its readers that life itself can be seen and understood in many different ways depending on the framework one chooses.
As for the story itself, I have a few complaints. Firstly, sometimes it felt like too much information was packed into a tiny chapter. Perhaps it wasn't even that, but the text book feel of the philosophy lesson itself between Alberto and Sophie. It was very dry and factual which I would expect in a text book, but not in a novel. Sometimes I found myself wondering when the history would end and the story actually begin again.
In addition, I didn't really feel that the chapters transitioned very well. They were very redundant. In some parts, it felt like the author was rushing the story (the writing was poor and simple) in order to get the story itself to the next long text book like philosophy lesson.
When Alberto is actually teaching Sophie about the history of philosophy, the dialogue is sometimes problematic. For example, Sophie will occasionally interrupt Alberto with her own thoughts or statements which seem to be coming not from Sophie the character, but the writer. I know that a lot of people will argue that the writing/dialogue comes from the author, but the point I'm trying to make is that a lot of Sophie's responses and thoughts did not seem realistic coming from a 14 year old girl. Some of her responses seem too pre-made and she also catches on to the philosophy lessons rather quickly considering that we are told this is the first time she's been introduced to philosophy.
Towards the end of the book, we learn that Sophie and Alberto are merely characters in a book. The book is being written as a birthday present for a girl named Hilde. I thought this was really clever on the writer's part and I found myself smiling because even I was tricked and didn't see it coming. There are of course subtle but also very obvious hints that this is the case, and the reader knows something odd is going on, especially when we learn that the man's name who is writing the book is Albert (very similar to Alberto, Sophie's teacher.) The whole idea is very clever indeed, especially when broken down - this is a story of a girl and a man being written by a man for his daughter, which has been written by Jostein Gaarder. Story within a story that is a story itself ! :)
What if we too are merely characters in a book that is being written? Perhaps we can escape like Sophie and Alberto did when the writer wasn't thinking of them.
My last thoughts on the book concern the philosophy itself. Do we come away satisfied that we have learned something of philosophy, or do we put the book down in frustration and confusion? I think if anyone actually manages to finish the book they will either be REALLY confused or just a little more knowledgeable about philosophy. The pace of the book is so quick that most of the history gets lost and comes off as being very dry and rather confusing when jumping from one philosopher and time to another. I think the history of philosophy could have been written in a more grab your attention sort of way that makes readers feel like they are actually reading a novel and not a text book.
Did I actually enjoy the book? I enjoyed it in parts. Some parts were very interesting and I had trouble putting the book down, but then those mind boggling history lessons would sneak up and I'd grow rather bored again. It's not really a matter of my familiarity with philosophy, but more along the lines of the text book feeling I got during the lesson parts. Would I recommend it? I would, but only to individuals who enjoy philosophy or are interested in it. And yeah, I would mention that it goes back and forth between novel and text book.
On an interesting side note, I almost counted how many times "bagatelle" is used in the novel, but decided not to, lol. According to wikipedia, "a bagatelle is a short piece of music, typically for the piano, and usually of a light, mellow character. The name bagatelle literally means a "trifle", as a reference to the innocent character of the piece." In case anyone was wondering.. :)
In addition to wonders, readers will find that this particular book also holds many questions, such as "Who are we?" and "Where does the world come from?" Once exposed to such questions there is no door to escape through. One can't help but wonder about the answers to such questions even when not reading the book. The lesson to be taken from this book is that none of these questions have definitive answers and that one shouldn't be surprised if the answers to the questions are questions themselves.
How does one even begin to tackle these loaded questions? The book presents readers with a framework or foundation in which they can use philosophy to answer the questions. The book teaches its readers that life itself can be seen and understood in many different ways depending on the framework one chooses.
As for the story itself, I have a few complaints. Firstly, sometimes it felt like too much information was packed into a tiny chapter. Perhaps it wasn't even that, but the text book feel of the philosophy lesson itself between Alberto and Sophie. It was very dry and factual which I would expect in a text book, but not in a novel. Sometimes I found myself wondering when the history would end and the story actually begin again.
In addition, I didn't really feel that the chapters transitioned very well. They were very redundant. In some parts, it felt like the author was rushing the story (the writing was poor and simple) in order to get the story itself to the next long text book like philosophy lesson.
When Alberto is actually teaching Sophie about the history of philosophy, the dialogue is sometimes problematic. For example, Sophie will occasionally interrupt Alberto with her own thoughts or statements which seem to be coming not from Sophie the character, but the writer. I know that a lot of people will argue that the writing/dialogue comes from the author, but the point I'm trying to make is that a lot of Sophie's responses and thoughts did not seem realistic coming from a 14 year old girl. Some of her responses seem too pre-made and she also catches on to the philosophy lessons rather quickly considering that we are told this is the first time she's been introduced to philosophy.
Towards the end of the book, we learn that Sophie and Alberto are merely characters in a book. The book is being written as a birthday present for a girl named Hilde. I thought this was really clever on the writer's part and I found myself smiling because even I was tricked and didn't see it coming. There are of course subtle but also very obvious hints that this is the case, and the reader knows something odd is going on, especially when we learn that the man's name who is writing the book is Albert (very similar to Alberto, Sophie's teacher.) The whole idea is very clever indeed, especially when broken down - this is a story of a girl and a man being written by a man for his daughter, which has been written by Jostein Gaarder. Story within a story that is a story itself ! :)
What if we too are merely characters in a book that is being written? Perhaps we can escape like Sophie and Alberto did when the writer wasn't thinking of them.
My last thoughts on the book concern the philosophy itself. Do we come away satisfied that we have learned something of philosophy, or do we put the book down in frustration and confusion? I think if anyone actually manages to finish the book they will either be REALLY confused or just a little more knowledgeable about philosophy. The pace of the book is so quick that most of the history gets lost and comes off as being very dry and rather confusing when jumping from one philosopher and time to another. I think the history of philosophy could have been written in a more grab your attention sort of way that makes readers feel like they are actually reading a novel and not a text book.
Did I actually enjoy the book? I enjoyed it in parts. Some parts were very interesting and I had trouble putting the book down, but then those mind boggling history lessons would sneak up and I'd grow rather bored again. It's not really a matter of my familiarity with philosophy, but more along the lines of the text book feeling I got during the lesson parts. Would I recommend it? I would, but only to individuals who enjoy philosophy or are interested in it. And yeah, I would mention that it goes back and forth between novel and text book.
On an interesting side note, I almost counted how many times "bagatelle" is used in the novel, but decided not to, lol. According to wikipedia, "a bagatelle is a short piece of music, typically for the piano, and usually of a light, mellow character. The name bagatelle literally means a "trifle", as a reference to the innocent character of the piece." In case anyone was wondering.. :)