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Dark Places by Gillian Flynn

13 reviews

chris_reads's review against another edition

adventurous challenging dark mysterious reflective sad tense medium-paced

• Plot- or character-driven? Plot
• Strong character development? Yes
• Loveable characters? No
• Diverse cast of characters? No
• Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes

3.0

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Content Warnings

Graphic: Toxic relationship, Blood, Animal cruelty, Classism, Religious bigotry, and Murder

Moderate: Child abuse, Panic attacks/disorders, Pregnancy, Sexual content, Suicidal thoughts, Drug abuse, Gore, Sexual assault, and Vomit

Minor: Gun violence, Racial slurs, and Fire/Fire injury

teddylouise00's review against another edition

challenging dark emotional mysterious sad tense medium-paced

• Plot- or character-driven? A mix
• Strong character development? It's complicated
• Loveable characters? No
• Diverse cast of characters? No
• Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes

4.75

HOLY FUCK. I just stayed up till 4am reading the last 100 pages, I couldn’t stop. Took me a little while to really get it going but when it goes it fucking FLIES. Devastating and heartbreaking

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Content Warnings

Graphic: Drug use, Blood, Child death, Drug abuse, Injury/Injury detail, Gun violence, Violence, Pregnancy, Emotional abuse, Murder, Animal death, Gore, Death, Grief, and Death of parent

Moderate: Classism, Cursing, Fire/Fire injury, Animal cruelty, Alcoholism, Vomit, and Alcohol

samdalefox's review against another edition

dark sad medium-paced

• Plot- or character-driven? A mix
• Strong character development? It's complicated
• Loveable characters? No
• Diverse cast of characters? No
• Flaws of characters a main focus? It's complicated

2.25

I'm not a big fan of the thriller murder mystery genre, but I adored 'Gone Girl' and 'Sharp Objects' also by Flynn, so I thought I'd give this one a go. Dark Places is certainly dark. It opens dark, stays dark, and arguably ends dark. The book started off strong and I was really invested, however as soon as the first 'twist' was revelaed

the introduction of Diondra as Ben's girlfriend

it quickly became predictable. I had guessed the truth of the murders by about a third of the way in. Overall, Dark Places is not enjoyable or as clever as her other works. I don't usually enjoy the changing point of view and flip-flopping timeline, however the format did make sense for this plot.  I thought Libby was well characterised, though she was the only one. The ending really let everything down. It was anticlimatic and dare I say too 'neat'; throughout the book all the little 'inconsistencies' between each character's POV were neatly explained by another's. I've included another review that I strongly agree with below:

rockinmama2ax's review:

"Unlike some suspense thrillers, I never experienced that on-the-edge-of-my-seat moment with this story. But I don't necessarily think that distracts from the novel's effectiveness. The way details about a triple homicide are shared - from various perspectives the day of and then twenty-four years later - made for a slow yet effective reveal of the sad truth.

And that brings me to my overall assessment: this was a sad story of a dirt-poor family whose circumstances seemed forever stacked against them. What might be glimmers of hope in otherwise perpetually cloudy skies proved illusions, and the reader is left with an unsatisfactory catharsis: a resolution is presented and case solved, but the sadness, the unhappiness, and the sense of hopelessness lingers, whether purposefully or not.

While I wasn't always forced into the next chapter in search of immediate answers, I was interested in discovering the truth, which means I was invested in the characters and the outcome. I only wish I'd been able to experience an intense emotional response - tears, anger, joy - rather than being reminded that happiness and fulfillment elude some forever."

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Content Warnings

Graphic: Animal death and Animal cruelty

Moderate: Suicidal thoughts, Bullying, Toxic relationship, Grief, Blood, Murder, Death of parent, Child death, and Sexual content

Minor: Confinement, Forced institutionalization, Classism, Drug abuse, and Mental illness

miggyfool's review against another edition

challenging dark emotional funny mysterious reflective sad tense fast-paced

• Plot- or character-driven? A mix
• Strong character development? Yes
• Loveable characters? It's complicated
• Diverse cast of characters? No
• Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes

5.0

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Content Warnings

Graphic: Bullying, Child death, Death of parent, Animal death, Blood, Body horror, Confinement, Addiction, Alcohol, Alcoholism, Animal cruelty, Child abuse, Classism, Cursing, Death, Domestic abuse, Drug abuse, Drug use, Emotional abuse, Excrement, Gaslighting, Gore, Gun violence, Injury/Injury detail, Medical trauma, Mental illness, Murder, Physical abuse, Pregnancy, Sexual content, Sexual violence, Suicidal thoughts, Suicide attempt, Torture, Toxic relationship, Violence, and Vomit

Minor: Fatphobia, Ableism, Xenophobia, Religious bigotry, Misogyny, and Fire/Fire injury

illgiveyouahint's review against another edition

challenging dark funny medium-paced

• Plot- or character-driven? Character
• Strong character development? Yes
• Loveable characters? It's complicated
• Diverse cast of characters? No
• Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes

3.5

First finished vacation read!
I wil lsay I'm not much of a crime thriller reader. It's not really my thing.
However the first 3/4 of the book were great. I enjoyed the switching between now and then. I thought the three narrators had all distinct voices. Ben was so beautifully stupid and teenagery. I occasionally found it funny even.
But I gotta be honest the ending really disappointed me. After all this build up I expected a bit more. It felt like the resolution/reveal came out of nowhere and it was all tied up with a bow all too neatly in my honest opinion. Like it was such a let down after such a build up.

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Content Warnings

Graphic: Animal cruelty, Cursing, Emotional abuse, Gaslighting, Injury/Injury detail, Murder, Physical abuse, Addiction, Animal death, Body horror, Alcoholism, Domestic abuse, Toxic relationship, Gun violence, Mass/school shootings, Mental illness, Alcohol, Body shaming, Death, Gore, Blood, Drug use, Forced institutionalization, Pedophilia, Toxic friendship, Abandonment, Adult/minor relationship, Child death, Classism, Death of parent, Sexual content, Suicidal thoughts, Excrement, Grief, Violence, Vomit, Bullying, and Child abuse

Minor: Fire/Fire injury, Racism, Homophobia, Cancer, Incest, Medical trauma, Racial slurs, Ableism, Abortion, Confinement, Cultural appropriation, Misogyny, Schizophrenia/Psychosis , and Suicide

celina246's review against another edition

dark mysterious tense slow-paced

• Plot- or character-driven? A mix
• Strong character development? It's complicated
• Loveable characters? No
• Diverse cast of characters? No
• Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes

2.5

This book was intense. It felt a bit like the shock value outweighed the actual plot, so that the mystery was just background to the gore, violence and tragedy. I can’t see myself wanting to read this again. 

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Content Warnings

Graphic: Death of parent, Child death, Gore, Murder, Suicidal thoughts, Alcoholism, Adult/minor relationship, Blood, Drug abuse, Gaslighting, Injury/Injury detail, and Death

Moderate: Toxic relationship, Classism, Pregnancy, and Grief

suneaters's review

dark mysterious tense medium-paced

• Plot- or character-driven? Character
• Strong character development? It's complicated
• Loveable characters? It's complicated
• Diverse cast of characters? No
• Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes

4.0

This book was an interesting read. Libby comes off pretty unlikeable at first as a person, but as a character she’s great and so is her narration.

I also enjoyed the switching perspectives that showed us Patty and Ben Day in third person limited. I also liked the Kill Club and I felt like it was satirizing true crime fans, but to be honest I wouldn’t be surprised if some of them actually are like that. Regardless, I was just happy to see Libby make a friend for once in Lyle even if she does just want his money.

Patty misinterpreting Ben’s list of names for his child with Diondra as him liking Krissi and other girls, the baby clothes as from his victims, and dyeing his hair as rebellion or something as opposed to something Diondra told him to do is really tragic and then she dies without ever realizing. It’s also really sad to read the missteps of Debby that led to her death.

Ben’s chapters are rough to read. We see him deeply struggling in the throes of poverty in Kinnakee, Missouri at only age fifteen while also trying to impress jackoffs like Trey (“I-barely-knew-Ben-but-I’ve-seen-his-dick”) and Diondra,

Ben’s older sort-of-girlfriend

. We can understand his pain and his resentment towards his mom and his father Runner.

Ben is fifteen and trying to impress his girlfriend and Trey even as they make fun of him and make him do things he really doesn’t want to do like kill a bull. As an adult, we see him as a forgiving and kind guy just happy to see his sister again, the only surviving family he has (Runner living in toxic waste doesn’t really count). It’s hilarious that he’s more forgiving of Libby’s testimony than grown women like Magda and co. At first even I felt like it’s making her out to be the bad guy if her testimony is false, but Ben was right: it’s clear she’s being coached and anyway it wasn’t that that convicted him. But he’s also deeply troubled and his behavior with Krissi Cates, a fifth grade girl, is abhorrent.

Fifteen and eleven is just weird as hell. At age fifteen, eleven was the age of my baby sister.

Eleven year olds were babies I should be watching out for and taking care of, not kissing even if they’re “attractive” (Gross, Ben). But the parallel of Krissi and Libby being coached by psychiatrists is  great and how they connected near the end was nice.

However, when the back summary said Libby was back to being “chased by the killer”,

I sort of expected more chasing. Mostly, it’s Libby solving this whodunit with the help of Lyle and the KC. She asks Ben for help, but he’s clearly keeping some information close to his chest. So Libby finds Runner, Krissi’s mom and then Krissi, Trey, and then finally Diondra, who now has a daughter named Crystal, Libby’s niece. Near the end Crystal accidentally reveals she read from Michelle’s diary and that she must have been involved or know who was, so Diondra and Crystal try to kill her while Libby runs from the house to escape just like she did twenty five years ago. Revealing that the “Angel of Debt” was involved was really clever after introducing him much earlier on as this made-up sounding killer a lá the Smily Faced Killers in real life. Two killers was interesting, but it’s super hard to believe Ben would just let Diondra strangle Michelle for knowing she exists. Patty doesn’t exactly have the funds to hunt them down and Michelle is a child. And then the Angel of Debt killing Patty which ok, that was the plan, and then chopping up Debby…why exactly? She saw him? And he just never noticed Ben or Diondra? That kinda toned down the enjoyment of the eventual reveal of what happened that night. But the ending with Ben out, feeling like it was okay to be in jail for so long for penance of not saving his family (though he did save Libby from Diondra) and for having “something dark and violent” in him was very satisfying.

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Content Warnings

Graphic: Animal death and Classism

Moderate: Blood, Child abuse, Child death, Drug use, Murder, and Domestic abuse

Minor: Suicidal thoughts and Suicide attempt

kaia24's review

challenging dark emotional mysterious reflective tense medium-paced

• Plot- or character-driven? Plot
• Strong character development? Yes
• Loveable characters? No
• Diverse cast of characters? No
• Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes

4.25

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Content Warnings

Graphic: Alcoholism, Grief, Toxic relationship, Child death, Classism, Murder, and Death of parent

Moderate: Blood, Body shaming, Drug use, Animal death, Gun violence, Pregnancy, Sexual content, Bullying, Addiction, Medical content, Suicidal thoughts, and Injury/Injury detail

Minor: Vomit and Mental illness

tangledinblue's review

adventurous dark mysterious reflective medium-paced

• Plot- or character-driven? Plot
• Strong character development? No
• Loveable characters? It's complicated
• Diverse cast of characters? No
• Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes

4.5

I love how this book is written in a way that forces you to untangle the knots and find the truth as the protagonist does the same.  Tackles the fragility of memory, the satanic panic, the 80s true crime community, and what happens when a tragedy becomes a spectacle. I loved that the narrator was unreliable, both intentionally and unintentionally, and how Flynn wove the story to drop pieces of the puzzle in at opportune moments, leaving the reader juuuust one step away from a realization at all times.  I also am a huge fan of Flynn’s female protags- they’re angry, depressed, bitter, and morally grey  in a way that doesn’t make them unlikeable, because they resonate with all women. Their rage may not be righteous but it is not unjustified. 

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Content Warnings

Graphic: Child death, Grief, Gun violence, Murder, Classism, Gore, Drug use, Animal cruelty, Suicidal thoughts, and Blood

Moderate: Pedophilia

basilica's review against another edition

challenging dark emotional mysterious sad tense fast-paced

• Plot- or character-driven? A mix
• Strong character development? Yes
• Loveable characters? It's complicated
• Diverse cast of characters? No
• Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes

5.0

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Content Warnings

Graphic: Violence, Death of parent, Child death, Drug use, Gore, Animal death, Murder, Blood, and Injury/Injury detail

Moderate: Abandonment, Pedophilia, Alcoholism, Alcohol, Addiction, Rape, Toxic relationship, Pregnancy, Classism, Sexual content, Sexual assault, and Suicidal thoughts

Minor: Abortion, Vomit, and Fire/Fire injury