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sillyduckie's review against another edition
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? It's complicated
- Loveable characters? No
- Diverse cast of characters? Yes
- Flaws of characters a main focus? It's complicated
4.75
Graphic: Bullying, Death, Domestic abuse, Emotional abuse, Hate crime, Misogyny, Physical abuse, Racial slurs, Racism, Rape, Self harm, Sexism, Sexual assault, Sexual violence, Slavery, Suicidal thoughts, Suicide, Torture, Toxic relationship, Violence, Xenophobia, Blood, Vomit, Medical content, Grief, Suicide attempt, Death of parent, Fire/Fire injury, Toxic friendship, Alcohol, Sexual harassment, Colonisation, and Classism
Minor: Incest
ekmook's review against another edition
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? It's complicated
- Diverse cast of characters? Yes
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
4.0
Graphic: Child abuse, Child death, Confinement, Death, Emotional abuse, Gore, Gun violence, Misogyny, Physical abuse, Racial slurs, Racism, Rape, Self harm, Sexism, Sexual assault, Sexual content, Sexual violence, Slavery, Suicide, Torture, Toxic relationship, Violence, Forced institutionalization, Blood, Vomit, Medical content, Grief, Medical trauma, Death of parent, Murder, Pregnancy, Gaslighting, Toxic friendship, Sexual harassment, Colonisation, and Injury/Injury detail
Minor: Addiction, Cursing, Drug abuse, Drug use, and Car accident
shellig93's review against another edition
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? It's complicated
- Diverse cast of characters? Yes
- Flaws of characters a main focus? No
4.25
Graphic: Racial slurs, Racism, Slavery, Suicide, Torture, and Toxic friendship
Moderate: Child death, Drug abuse, Rape, Vomit, and Death of parent
romiress's review against another edition
- Plot- or character-driven? Character
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? It's complicated
- Diverse cast of characters? Yes
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
3.75
Graphic: Gore, Racial slurs, Racism, Sexual assault, Sexual violence, Slavery, and Toxic friendship
Moderate: Religious bigotry
meritm's review against another edition
- Plot- or character-driven? Character
- Strong character development? It's complicated
- Loveable characters? It's complicated
- Diverse cast of characters? Yes
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
4.75
Graphic: Death, Emotional abuse, Physical abuse, Racial slurs, Racism, Rape, Self harm, Sexism, Sexual assault, Slavery, Violence, Pregnancy, and Toxic friendship
mandi4886's review against another edition
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? It's complicated
- Diverse cast of characters? Yes
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
4.75
Graphic: Body horror, Confinement, Death, Emotional abuse, Gore, Gun violence, Hate crime, Infidelity, Physical abuse, Racial slurs, Racism, Rape, Self harm, Sexism, Sexual assault, Sexual content, Sexual violence, Slavery, Suicidal thoughts, Suicide, Torture, Toxic relationship, Violence, Forced institutionalization, Blood, Medical content, Trafficking, Grief, Medical trauma, Suicide attempt, Death of parent, Murder, Gaslighting, Toxic friendship, Sexual harassment, and Injury/Injury detail
Moderate: Ableism, Alcoholism, Child abuse, Child death, Chronic illness, Cursing, Infertility, Mental illness, Miscarriage, Xenophobia, Vomit, Kidnapping, Religious bigotry, Pregnancy, Alcohol, and War
Minor: Body shaming, Domestic abuse, Genocide, Antisemitism, Dementia, Stalking, Fire/Fire injury, and Colonisation
nikkioles's review against another edition
- Plot- or character-driven? Character
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? It's complicated
- Diverse cast of characters? Yes
- Flaws of characters a main focus? No
4.75
Graphic: Physical abuse, Racial slurs, Racism, Slavery, and Toxic friendship
Moderate: Suicide
kylegarvey's review against another edition
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? It's complicated
- Diverse cast of characters? Yes
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
3.0
It was announced in Mar 2021 that FX ordered a pilot of a TV adaptation of Butler's Kindred, so these types of stories are still somewhat en vogue, no? "Horror stories. / Except that they were true" Butler writes (117). A 1976 African American woman transported to a pre-Civil War Maryland plantation? That heroine, Dana, is the subject and protagonist; but in some ways the white husband, Kevin, gets an even more problematic fate: "if he survived here, it would be because he managed to tolerate the life here. He wouldn’t have to take part in it, but he would have to keep quiet about it. Free speech and press hadn’t done too well in the ante bellum South" (120). For all the white supremacist guilt stealing, there's as much blame stealing too?
Butler's original text seems good sometimes -- she describes the doctor with a quick "Just a stupid little man who may be one step up from spells and good luck charms" (216) -- but not so good other times -- "Wait. Let me tell it all to you at once. Then you can have all the time you need to digest it and ask questions" (213) (ok, ok, may be necessary practically, but we can skip it narratively?). But other times it's excellent and powerful, like when Dana has to tragically re-reveal the central tragedy to one of its sufferers:
"How could you not know what it’s like to be a slave. You are one" (247)…
"'I said am I a slave?' / 'Yes.' / 'She had risen half off the bench, her whole body demanding that I answer her. Now that I had, she sat down again heavily, her back and shoulders rounded, her arms crossed over her stomach hugging herself. 'But I’m supposed to be free. I was free. Born free!'" (249).
The central heroine's self-regard, even in spite of the epic brutality around her, is par for the course, one of the points of the whole story maybe: "But for drop-ins from another century, I thought we had had a remarkably easy time. And I was perverse enough to be bothered by the ease" (152); or "'You might be able to go through this whole experience as an observer,' I said. 'I can understand that because most of the time, I’m still an observer. It’s protection. It’s nineteen seventy-six shielding and cushioning eighteen nineteen for me'" (157).
Incisive as all get out still, though, too: "I had thought my feelings were complicated because he and I had such a strange relationship. But then, slavery of any kind fostered strange relationships" (365); and "my life was easier than hers. Maybe I tried to make up for that by taking her abuse. Everything had its limits, though" (375).
I trip up sometimes a little, though, on how un-PC we can be nevertheless. Weird for a 2021 white guy to bring up with a 1970s Black woman, but still: about a minor character, we hear bluntly "used to wonder whether she was a little retarded" (385).
Still, even though Kindred's wildly imperfect and Butler's never the ideal writer, it's a slim-enough book with a powerful-enough premise. Robert Crossley's critical essay about Kindred, included in my copy as an afterword, works as a nice way to enlarge that premise somewhat: Dana having to compromise feminist ideals (428) as well as Kindred as a whole being "no more rational, no more comfortably explicable than the history of slavery itself" (425).
Graphic: Confinement, Misogyny, Racial slurs, Racism, Self harm, Slavery, Suicide, Forced institutionalization, Murder, Fire/Fire injury, and Toxic friendship
kbergsten's review against another edition
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? It's complicated
- Diverse cast of characters? Yes
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
5.0
Graphic: Death, Emotional abuse, Gore, Hate crime, Miscarriage, Physical abuse, Racial slurs, Racism, Rape, Self harm, Sexism, Sexual assault, Sexual violence, Slavery, Suicide, Torture, Toxic relationship, Violence, Trafficking, Suicide attempt, Death of parent, Murder, Toxic friendship, and Sexual harassment
readandfindout's review against another edition
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? It's complicated
- Diverse cast of characters? Yes
4.5
2024 reread: 4.5 stars
Style/writing: 4.5 stars
Themes: 4.5 stars
Characters: 4 stars
Plot: 5 stars
Graphic: Body horror, Child abuse, Child death, Confinement, Death, Domestic abuse, Emotional abuse, Gore, Gun violence, Hate crime, Misogyny, Physical abuse, Racial slurs, Racism, Rape, Self harm, Sexual assault, Sexual violence, Slavery, Suicidal thoughts, Suicide, Torture, Toxic relationship, Violence, Blood, Vomit, Trafficking, Kidnapping, Grief, Medical trauma, Suicide attempt, Death of parent, Murder, Pregnancy, Toxic friendship, Sexual harassment, Colonisation, Injury/Injury detail, and Classism
Moderate: Alcoholism and Fire/Fire injury