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4.3 AVERAGE
4.3 AVERAGE
adventurous
emotional
mysterious
tense
medium-paced
Plot or Character Driven:
A mix
Strong character development:
Yes
Loveable characters:
Yes
Diverse cast of characters:
Yes
Flaws of characters a main focus:
Complicated
Fantastic series and conclusion
I liked the Raven Boys and wanted to continue on in the world, but WOW. This series blew me away. I loved the character development, the twists, and the feel of the world. So glad I read it.
I liked the Raven Boys and wanted to continue on in the world, but WOW. This series blew me away. I loved the character development, the twists, and the feel of the world. So glad I read it.
adventurous
emotional
tense
fast-paced
Plot or Character Driven:
Plot
Strong character development:
Yes
Loveable characters:
Yes
Diverse cast of characters:
Yes
Flaws of characters a main focus:
Yes
A satisfying conclusion to a good series. Didn't particularly like the epilogue, but I think that's a personal hatred unrelated to this particular book.
- I loved the Raven Boys cycle and the Lynch brothers were begging to be further explored, so the Dreamer trilogy was a welcome follow-up
- This was a highly satisfactory conclusion to said trilogy
- including the pitch-perfect, true-to-character last lines
- This was a highly satisfactory conclusion to said trilogy
- including the pitch-perfect, true-to-character last lines
And thus, one of my favorite series, first inaugurated by [b:The Raven Boys|17675462|The Raven Boys (The Raven Cycle, #1)|Maggie Stiefvater|https://i.gr-assets.com/images/S/compressed.photo.goodreads.com/books/1573508485l/17675462._SY75_.jpg|18970934], has come to an end.
What am I supposed to do now?
Weeks after the events of [b:Mister Impossible|31373233|Mister Impossible (Dreamer Trilogy, #2)|Maggie Stiefvater|https://i.gr-assets.com/images/S/compressed.photo.goodreads.com/books/1604948211l/31373233._SY75_.jpg|52062093], after Hennessy shut down the ley line, Ronan Lynch is asleep, lost in the dreams of the sweetmetals and the Lace; Hennessy is running from her demons; Carmen, regretting her past with the Moderators, and now in a relationship with the Visionary Lilliana, is trying to find Hennessy; Jordan is trying to live as herself; and Declan is struggling to keep what's left of his family alive.
The Dreamer Trilogy has been an interesting continuation of The Raven Cycle series. Not everything has worked out as Maggie Stiefvater planned it, but it has mostly wrapped-up nicely with things resolved (some of them rushed albeit) and made me feel the same emotions when the The Raven Cycle originally ended with [b:The Raven King|17378527|The Raven King (The Raven Cycle, #4)|Maggie Stiefvater|https://i.gr-assets.com/images/S/compressed.photo.goodreads.com/books/1477103790l/17378527._SY75_.jpg|24170172]. I am really sad to see this series go. Stiefvater has said that this is the end of the series, at least until the graphic novel comes out in 2025. You'll have to look up that news yourself because GoodReads doesn't let us link articles anymore.
Ronan Lynch has been a character I have been greatly invested in ever since I first met him in The Raven Boys. A tough and dangerous boy who's also gay and Catholic. I've never seen a character like that in either Adult or YA before; except for maybe Harrowhark Nonagesimus from The Locked Tomb series. In Greywaren, Ronan's perspective isn't a normal one, or what we traditionally see form this series. Until near the final confrontation, Ronan is mostly floating in spaces in-between; stuck in the dream world of the sadistic Lace. We later learn what the Lace is, and what Ronan truly is too. The revelation about Ronan genuinely left me speechless, I had suspicions, but still I was flabbergasted. This revelation also ultimately changes Declan's character as well. Throughout this trilogy, Declan has been a trooper and it's interesting to see him grow as a character and come into a relationship with Jordan. Niall Lynch, Aurora Lynch, Mór Ó Corra, and Fenian were and are all not who they seemed to be. This has great effect on the Lynch brothers, but mostly Declan and Ronan.
Ronan, Declan, and Hennessy, and to a lesser extent Matthew and Adam, all have the greatest character development here. Jordan and Lilliana kind of get left behind here. In fact, Lilliana's fate is just so brushed over; this is one of the aforementioned things that were rushed. And it's a shame because I genuinely liked Lilliana. As for Carmen...erm. I did not hate Carmen in this trilogy, but I also felt like I never truly knew her. She does have a developed character arc and we are inside her head, but compared to everyone else it felt...lacking? I don't know the proper words for it. She still feels so distant after everything. Even after her relationship with Hennessy develops, also rushed, she still feels far away.
Hennessy's development is great too. She fights back against the Lace and her demons and realizes what she wants and how she feels about Jordan and the sweetmetals and everything else. It was genuinely uplifting to see her overcome her darkness.
Like I said, things do feel rushed here, but the conclusion is heartfelt. Everyone who wants love, finds love. Old character return. And Ronan and Adam get their own piece of happiness. The Lynch brothers love each other again. It feels like it just started and was over all so quickly. Not a perfect ending, but a great ending, nonetheless. I was here for Ronan, and I was deeply satisfied with where the story took him. He knows who he is now and what he wants. Without spoiling things, it's oaky to live in-between things, in-between worlds, and in-between people.
Oh God! The emotions I felt! I can't believe it's over. What do I do? Now what? There's going to be no more of this series until I relieve it all, or most of it, with the forthcoming graphic novel. Stiefvater said that she's now writing her first Adult book and I can't wait to see where she goes with that.
I will forever miss this series.
What am I supposed to do now?
Weeks after the events of [b:Mister Impossible|31373233|Mister Impossible (Dreamer Trilogy, #2)|Maggie Stiefvater|https://i.gr-assets.com/images/S/compressed.photo.goodreads.com/books/1604948211l/31373233._SY75_.jpg|52062093], after Hennessy shut down the ley line, Ronan Lynch is asleep, lost in the dreams of the sweetmetals and the Lace; Hennessy is running from her demons; Carmen, regretting her past with the Moderators, and now in a relationship with the Visionary Lilliana, is trying to find Hennessy; Jordan is trying to live as herself; and Declan is struggling to keep what's left of his family alive.
The Dreamer Trilogy has been an interesting continuation of The Raven Cycle series. Not everything has worked out as Maggie Stiefvater planned it, but it has mostly wrapped-up nicely with things resolved (some of them rushed albeit) and made me feel the same emotions when the The Raven Cycle originally ended with [b:The Raven King|17378527|The Raven King (The Raven Cycle, #4)|Maggie Stiefvater|https://i.gr-assets.com/images/S/compressed.photo.goodreads.com/books/1477103790l/17378527._SY75_.jpg|24170172]. I am really sad to see this series go. Stiefvater has said that this is the end of the series, at least until the graphic novel comes out in 2025. You'll have to look up that news yourself because GoodReads doesn't let us link articles anymore.
Ronan Lynch has been a character I have been greatly invested in ever since I first met him in The Raven Boys. A tough and dangerous boy who's also gay and Catholic. I've never seen a character like that in either Adult or YA before; except for maybe Harrowhark Nonagesimus from The Locked Tomb series. In Greywaren, Ronan's perspective isn't a normal one, or what we traditionally see form this series. Until near the final confrontation, Ronan is mostly floating in spaces in-between; stuck in the dream world of the sadistic Lace. We later learn what the Lace is, and what Ronan truly is too. The revelation about Ronan genuinely left me speechless, I had suspicions, but still I was flabbergasted. This revelation also ultimately changes Declan's character as well. Throughout this trilogy, Declan has been a trooper and it's interesting to see him grow as a character and come into a relationship with Jordan. Niall Lynch, Aurora Lynch, Mór Ó Corra, and Fenian were and are all not who they seemed to be. This has great effect on the Lynch brothers, but mostly Declan and Ronan.
Ronan, Declan, and Hennessy, and to a lesser extent Matthew and Adam, all have the greatest character development here. Jordan and Lilliana kind of get left behind here. In fact, Lilliana's fate is just so brushed over; this is one of the aforementioned things that were rushed. And it's a shame because I genuinely liked Lilliana. As for Carmen...erm. I did not hate Carmen in this trilogy, but I also felt like I never truly knew her. She does have a developed character arc and we are inside her head, but compared to everyone else it felt...lacking? I don't know the proper words for it. She still feels so distant after everything. Even after her relationship with Hennessy develops, also rushed, she still feels far away.
Hennessy's development is great too. She fights back against the Lace and her demons and realizes what she wants and how she feels about Jordan and the sweetmetals and everything else. It was genuinely uplifting to see her overcome her darkness.
Like I said, things do feel rushed here, but the conclusion is heartfelt. Everyone who wants love, finds love. Old character return. And Ronan and Adam get their own piece of happiness. The Lynch brothers love each other again. It feels like it just started and was over all so quickly. Not a perfect ending, but a great ending, nonetheless. I was here for Ronan, and I was deeply satisfied with where the story took him. He knows who he is now and what he wants. Without spoiling things, it's oaky to live in-between things, in-between worlds, and in-between people.
Oh God! The emotions I felt! I can't believe it's over. What do I do? Now what? There's going to be no more of this series until I relieve it all, or most of it, with the forthcoming graphic novel. Stiefvater said that she's now writing her first Adult book and I can't wait to see where she goes with that.
I will forever miss this series.
where do i even start with this damn book…when i read the first page, my internal monologue was like: Thank God. I’ve had such terrible luck with reading for the past two years and my relationship with literature is dying by the day but no matter what happens, I know I can rely on Maggie Stiefvafer to deliver.
So the beginning started out good. Nice. Nothing out of the ordinary. But as the pages crept by…the plot was not actually set in motion…and the characters weren’t really doing anything other than agonizing over the state of their lives and the world…and most perplexingly, Ronan was not waking up. let’s start with that.
Ronan freaking Lynch. where was he?? i waited patiently for him to arise and actually participate in his own story and it ended up happening around the 80% mark. he was literally asleep for 80% of this book. i repeat, RONAN LYNCH, the main character of this series who i would die for without hesitation, was asleep for 80% of this book, which is the final installment of the series. i couldn’t make this up. it’s a nightmare scenario, no pun intended. it is the most fatal error in literary history to say the least.
Maggie Stiefvafer, he is Ronan Lynch. you should know because you created him!!! why was he asleep for the whole book????? imagine if Jesus was asleep for the whole Bible.
we need to talk about dreams, the sweetmetal sea, visions, and whatever the hell else was going on. I don’t even know anymore. I tolerated these multiple vague abstract scenes because I love these characters and this world, but including so much of the dreamy weamy stuff went overboard and got frustrating. and i’m a very theoretical, ramble kind of person so if i say something is too abstract…there’s an issue. the plot at this point is “abstract antagonist w/abstract force defeated by protagonist’s abstract force in their dreamsss.” the conflict? forget man v. man or man v. self, it’s dreams v. dreams.
i want to cry. to put the rest simply, the story felt rushed, and it ended so soon, we weren’t given time to connect with the characters (in Ronan’s case he was literally UNCONSCIOUS, oh my land i am never getting over this), and their personal arcs as well as their relationships with one another were too condensed to be impactful.
I’m going through the stages of grief. I enjoyed the experience of reading this, probably because of nostalgia and how big of a fan i am. The prose itself still meets the Stiefvafer standards (at least that didn’t suffer) and hits deep. And I’m still in awe of the complex world building in this universe, even if the lore was executed weirdly in this last book. This book definitely could’ve been much worse. But the thing is, it could have been amazing. I was obsessed with Mister Impossible! I wonder incessantly what happened between that book and this one to lead to this fumbling, anticlimactic summary being published instead of the masterpiece I know Stiefvafer is capable of.
So the beginning started out good. Nice. Nothing out of the ordinary. But as the pages crept by…the plot was not actually set in motion…and the characters weren’t really doing anything other than agonizing over the state of their lives and the world…and most perplexingly, Ronan was not waking up. let’s start with that.
Ronan freaking Lynch. where was he?? i waited patiently for him to arise and actually participate in his own story and it ended up happening around the 80% mark. he was literally asleep for 80% of this book. i repeat, RONAN LYNCH, the main character of this series who i would die for without hesitation, was asleep for 80% of this book, which is the final installment of the series. i couldn’t make this up. it’s a nightmare scenario, no pun intended. it is the most fatal error in literary history to say the least.
Maggie Stiefvafer, he is Ronan Lynch. you should know because you created him!!! why was he asleep for the whole book????? imagine if Jesus was asleep for the whole Bible.
we need to talk about dreams, the sweetmetal sea, visions, and whatever the hell else was going on. I don’t even know anymore. I tolerated these multiple vague abstract scenes because I love these characters and this world, but including so much of the dreamy weamy stuff went overboard and got frustrating. and i’m a very theoretical, ramble kind of person so if i say something is too abstract…there’s an issue. the plot at this point is “abstract antagonist w/abstract force defeated by protagonist’s abstract force in their dreamsss.” the conflict? forget man v. man or man v. self, it’s dreams v. dreams.
i want to cry. to put the rest simply, the story felt rushed, and it ended so soon, we weren’t given time to connect with the characters (in Ronan’s case he was literally UNCONSCIOUS, oh my land i am never getting over this), and their personal arcs as well as their relationships with one another were too condensed to be impactful.
I’m going through the stages of grief. I enjoyed the experience of reading this, probably because of nostalgia and how big of a fan i am. The prose itself still meets the Stiefvafer standards (at least that didn’t suffer) and hits deep. And I’m still in awe of the complex world building in this universe, even if the lore was executed weirdly in this last book. This book definitely could’ve been much worse. But the thing is, it could have been amazing. I was obsessed with Mister Impossible! I wonder incessantly what happened between that book and this one to lead to this fumbling, anticlimactic summary being published instead of the masterpiece I know Stiefvafer is capable of.
adventurous
challenging
dark
emotional
mysterious
tense
medium-paced
Plot or Character Driven:
A mix
Strong character development:
Yes
Loveable characters:
Yes
Diverse cast of characters:
Yes
Gorgeous, genius, more incredible and wonderful than I ever dreamed it could be. How does it feel to have my expectations and theories upended? Glorious! I'm going to let this one settle in for awhile and then reread the Cycle and the Trilogy with new eyes.