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As a college student I deliberately chose not to read this book, partly because I felt like Elizabeth Sandifer was haunting me - I'm also trans, a student of the humanities, sometimes an essayist, and a delver into topics including Doctor Who, mysticism, the history of ideas and continental philosophy. At the time all discussion of the text I was aware of suggested that it was a deliberate misreading of "rationalist" culture - a sphere of thought I saw as marked by queerness, scientific literacy, hope for the future, a rejection of messianic authority, an emphasis on research and an openness to changing one's mind - in order to make it coequal with juvenile thinking, technofetishism, bigotry and apocalyptic far-right ideology. This felt like seeing an echo of my future and learning my destiny was to become a jerk. So I avoided it.

Closing the loop several years later, I have to say it wasn't so bad, though I found nothing surprising. As a critical overview of Nick Land and Mencius Moldbug it seems perfectly serviceable, though honestly I wouldn't know - I've avoided the former and have never even encountered the latter (thankfully). As a critique of Yudkowsky, I found it rather pointless, since even the 'basilisk' concept was invented by someone else - someone who I understand later turned out to be a right-wing shithead and who would fit the topic much more. Despite some engagement with the posts themselves, Elizabeth seems to have missed, or simply ignored, that Roko's basilisk was not banned as a topic for being the secret flaw in AI alignment thinking, but because it was the equivalent of speculating that a certain incantation will cause a nuclear explosion and then posting it online for people to check; given Roko's standpoint, this was a foolish decision. She quotes the post where Yudkowsky says this was wrong, but leaves out the parts where he makes this exact point, presumably because no one who reads will check.

Other things chafe. Like most early criticism of Yudkowsky, his posting about quantum physics is brought up as a mark of his dilletantism, a shorthand gesture that he's a crackpot, and like most criticism it drops the subject immediately because his writing popularized the majority view of quantum physicists at the time and there's no detail in it to object to. It's very difficult to critique Yudkowsky's ideas because each typically has a direct lineage to something like the Jaynes' Probability Theory: the Logic of Science or The Oxford Handbook of Thinking and Reasoning, so it's much easier to sneer at him for believing death is theoretically a solvable problem, or for struggling with the double-empathy problem endemic to being neurodiverse, or for writing an erotic light novel instead of being William Blake.

Ultimately I feel it's embarrasing that Elizabeth speaks so eloquently and appreciatively about the prose, thought and spectacle of the guy who invented "hyper-racism", compared to her treatment of someone who doesn't seem quite so awful. The content of the ideas here seems to have been glossed over in favor of which thinker has a more academic register, so Land's apparent avant-garde theory-fiction madness gets much deeper consideration than something as silly as educational fanfiction. I'm left scratching my head at a work that seems to understand that Marxist thought is missing from the conversation but takes intellectually property seriously, that speaks of the importance of grasping womanhood on its own terms but appears to take childhood as subaltern, and that puts great energy into deconstructing two-thirds of its thinkers only to diagnose the remaining one as too science-fiction-y when it's not critiquing him outright for being anti-authority. 

funkycide's review against another edition

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informative slow-paced

3.0

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5.0

Neoreaction a Basilisk is a book that exceeds all expectations. These essays circle around the details of NRx, Gamergate, Paelolibertarianism, and other tangential reactionary/conspiracy movements, but the real work of it is engaging with the horrors lurking at the edges of the philosophies that support such groups. Roko's titular Basilisk is explored as an exemplar of the ever-present ideas that live in the cracks, beyond the endpoints of supremacist utopias, such that the utopian outcomes are dead in the water from the outset. Sandifer isn't doing this to dismiss the malignancy of these ideas (indeed, the entire book is premised on the idea that we are already too far gone), but to find a way to exist in these dark beyonds; if these monsters are so horrifying that fascism can't look at them without flinching, what better defense than to make ourselves monstrous?

Despite the heaviness that the above would imply, this book would absolutely be best described as a romp. The competency with which she approaches these truly horrible people in no way undercuts how eminently readable and blisteringly funny it is. The seven (!) months I took to read this can't be attributed to any difficulty wrestling with the concepts therein, but rather to how much fun I had reading it.

I don't think I could recommend a book more highly than I would this one. This is a fantastic book to end 2019 with, and I'm looking forward to revisiting it in the 2020s.

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challenging informative inspiring medium-paced

4.75

A splendid intellectual adventure and a thorough roast - analytical, brainy roast - of the neoreactionary idols. Off a quarter star because while the titular long essay, which takes up almost half of the book, is splendid, the following ones are just interesting (except for the one on Donald Trump, which is just such an adventure, even my completely bored with the US brain enjoyed it).

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dark funny informative reflective sad slow-paced

5.0

sleepey's review against another edition

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challenging dark slow-paced

3.5

redbecca's review against another edition

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3.0

This book is an interesting document from a larger internet nerd fight. I don't recommend it as a clear explanation of the alt-right. it does provide a detailed close-reading of three major neo-reactionary figures, and a smack-down of racist paleo-libertarians, with connections to longer intellectual traditions. However, the writing style, a kind of ongoing performance of intellectual pwnage, makes the book harder to read than it needs to be. At times, the readings seem more aimed at ridiculing the book's subjects than explaining their ideas or why anyone would believe them. This can be satisfying on one level, which may be why the chapter on Trump works - because we are inundated with information about him all the time and don't need a basic explanation of who he is or what he's about. In the end, for me the snarky style became tedious and undermined the book's stated purpose.

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2.5

God, I had such high hopes for this one. I suppose, in that sense, I am partially to blame for the disappointment I’m feeling right now.

The strengths and shortcomings of the titular essay can be found repeated throughout the collection. I want to start with those strengths. This book was one of the funniest I’ve read recently, and it was genuinely thought-provoking at times. The extended mythological framing was neat, and the tangents about Milton’s Paradise Lost and Blake’s The Book of Urizen, though largely irrelevant, were undeniably interesting.
I think my favourite chapter was Theses on a President, which was closer to prose than it was to an essay. Sandifer’s writing style worked well there.

It’s less well-suited to her essays, however. The acerbic wit that enthralled me at the start soon became pure venom. Anger about neoreaction is understandable and justified, but she doesn’t harness that anger properly. Her writing is tarnished with rampant ableism, mockery of drug addicts, and a few homophobic jabs for good measure.
Something that’s hard to ignore is the way Sandifer falls in step with the figures she condemns. Not ideologically, of course – I’m by no means accusing her of being a cryptofascist – only in the sense that she dances the same rhythms of performative “pwnage” and she tries to beat neoreactionaries at their own games, which means she’s always playing defence. She tries to poke holes in their logic but, as the saying goes, you cannot reason someone out of a position they didn’t reason themselves into. I feel like these are fairly obvious blunders that anyone familiar enough with the alt-right to feel confident writing an entire book about it should have known to avoid. It made for a frustrating read.

YouTube channel Innuendo Studios has an excellent series of videos ("The Alt-Right Playbook") on this topic which I would highly recommend if you're interested. I can't say I recommend Neoreaction a Basilisk, unfortunately. 

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challenging dark funny informative reflective medium-paced

5.0

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5.0

Review is of the Kickstarter edition from last year. This version has MORE content and has been through an additional round of edits, so it's probably even better :)

Let’s start by admitting I’m out of my depth here. According to the Kickstarter that funded this book, “Neoreaction a Basilisk is a work of theoretical philosophy about the tentacled computer gods at the end of the universe.” To say I am under qualified to talk about this book would be somewhat of an understatement. On the other hand, the KS also describes this book as “A book of horror philosophy about the end of the world, the alt-right, and an AI from the future that wants to torture you. Yes, you.” Which is the sound of the train slowing down just enough for me to risk jumping on board, I guess, though there’s every chance I will go kersplat in the attempt.

Still, let’s risk it.

I’m familiar with Dr. Sandifer’s work via his TARDIS Eruditorum blog, primarily - a project that watched every single Doctor Who TV story in existence, in order, and wrote about them, though it also encompassed far more than that - in fact, it told the history of British culture from 1963 to the present with Doctor Who as it’s chosen lens, basically. And as a Who fan, that’s always going to be catnip to me, basically. Sandifer covers, as you might fairly expect, a lot of ground in that project, but for my money, his writing was never finer, sharper, or more insightful than when he was taking on the subject of bullies.

Dr Sandifer really, really doesn’t like bullies.

Take, for example, this piece on Mary Whitehouse - in my opinion, the most brilliant and concise response to that campaigner, and the movements she represented, of any I’ve seen before or since. Notice too that this hits on an area of writing I will always find powerful - a fusion of the utterly and deeply personal with an understanding of wider political context and structures, and how the two relate. Also, anger. Because in the context of writing, anger is a gift.

So it may not come as a galloping shock to discover that Dr. S is also not a big fan of the Rabid Puppies hijacking of the Hugos. Because, well, bullies. To that end, he’s written what I again consider to be the best single post on this matter last year, in an essay called ‘Guided By The Beauty Of Their Weapons’ which I named as my non-fiction essay of 2015. And he’s since demolished Rabid Puppy founder Vox Day in a one on one debate concerning the relative merits of John C. Wright’s ‘One Bright Star To Guide Them’ and Iain Banks ‘The Wasp Factory', with Dr. S having the admittedly easier task of arguing in support of the book that isn’t god-awful (which, good job selling Vox on that).

Sidebar: To my mind the most telling exchange in that debate comes when, in the context of discussing notions of skepticism as relates to religious ‘truths’ Mr. Day says, with an apparently straight face ‘But Phil, you shouldn’t be skeptical about 2 + 2, should you?’. It’s a moment of such gobsmacking stupidity that Dr. S can be heard audibly floundering for a response, and I tragically cannot be heard yelling at the top of my lungs ‘you can be skeptical as you like about 2 + 2, and IT STILL WORKS! That’s the point of an ACTUAL truth, you idiot!’. I’m sure you had your own reason why that was a mind numbingly stupid statement, of course. You kind of have to admire an ability to be wrong on that many levels with that few words.

Anyhow, between the essay and subsequent podcast debate, Dr. S was well and truly on the radar of some fairly objectionable people - GamerGaters, Rabid Puppies, and the hulking trolls of the alt right and neoreaction in general. Whilst Guided By The Beauty Of Their Weapons eventually made it into book form as part of an essay collection at the end of 2015, I’d always suspected the alt right might be a subject Dr. S would return to, given his personal and political opposition to everything they stand for.

Which leads us, a mere 650 words after I began, to Neoreaction A Basilisk.

And the first thing to note is that Vox and the Puppies are entirely absent from this book. I mean, if you’re familiar with the arguments, and with Vox’s backstory, there’s a couple of deep-cut references that will raise a smile, but that’s not the primary focus of the book. Rather the book focuses on the writers and thinkers that Dr. S identifies as the key intellectuals behind the current Alt Right philosophy: namely, Nick Land, Mencius Moldbug, and Eliezer Yudkowsky (the latter, just to be clear, emphatically not an alt.right thinker, but whose work heavily influenced the thinking of the other two).

So, critical disclaimer time: I’m not familiar with any of the source material here at all. This review will not speak to the veracity of the claims Dr. S makes about these thinkers. It can’t. I can’t. I don’t know. If you have a view on that, fine, and feel free to write in, but understand that I will not have a clue what you are talking about and won’t be able to make a determination either way as to the veracity of either your claims or Sandifer’s.

Of course, there’s a way in which that makes me, if not an ideal reader, at least firmly part of the intended target audience. Dr S has repeatedly stated that you don’t need to know the source material in order to enjoy the book, and indeed has repeatedly advised against reading Moldbug, as it’s (in Sandifer’s opinion) irredeemably awful writing (which, on the strength of the provided excerpts, I’d be inclined to believe him on).

What this book is - or at least, appeared to me to be at first - is a takedown of the alt.right based on the philosophy that you shouldn’t attack your enemy where he is weakest (like, say, at the point of some third-rate-thinker-if-first-rate-self-publicist like Vox Day) but instead go to where he is strongest, the intellectual bedrock, and start there. Again, I can’t speak to whether or not these chosen thinkers fit that bill, but the extracted arguments certainly indicate a level of thought that your average VD type is simply incapable of reaching.

What Dr. S then does is deploy other, existing thinkers/modes of approach to demonstrate the weaknesses inherent in each of the founding principles of these philosophies. If that sentence just gave you a headache, honestly, I don’t blame you - it’s giving me one, and I wrote it. But here’s the thing - it bloody works. Dr. S has an amazing gift for rendering complex and sophisticated arguments and propositions in an immediately readable and understandable way, deploying metaphor, unpacking terminology, and adding humor to expert effect. You really don’t need to know anything about philosophy (I basically don’t) to not just follow the conversation, but be entertained by it.

And of course, he also employs horror philosophy as part of his argument, which is why we're talking about this book here. Specifically, he talks about Hannibalism (which attempts to construct a working philosophical approach based on a close read of the recent three season run of ‘Hannibal’, which is as deliciously deranged as you’d expect) and the work of Thomas Ligotti, especially his non-fiction book ‘The Conspiracy Against The Human Race’, which if you’re anything like me you’ll know about primarily because all the best lines that Matthew Mcconaughey’s character Rust Cohle had in True Detective season 1 got ripped off from there (and if you already knew that, more power to you).

It’s dense, literate, intelligent stuff, but I reiterate it’s also brilliantly readable. Even when he goes into his inevitable Blake riff (Dr. S is a huge Blake fan, and it’s something of an in-joke at this point that any project of any size he writes about will end up having a Blake section), the explanations and inferences are crystal clear, and it all serves the overarching thrust of the piece. Similarly, his deployment of Ligotti vs. Land I found genuinely unnerving, as the scale and depth of Ligotti’s nihilism threatens to overwhelm not just Land, but everything else, too.

As to the wider horror context, it’s like this: The alt.right scare me. Gamergate as a movement troubles me. Vox Day doesn’t scare me… but the fact that he and his little gang have kids definitely does. Tribal hatreds are viral in nature, transmitted across generations, and while I’d argue our societal immune systems have never been stronger than they are right now, the fact remains these strains are still stubborn and pervasive. I’ll never not be a free speecher, but equally I therefore see it as an obligation to exercise free speech against toxic ideas and arguments. To, not to put too fine a point on it, argue with and against bullies.

This is my design, be it ever so humble and flawed and compromised.

So the notion of a book that attacks the foundational texts of those movements, and even more, in part deploys horror fiction and philosophy to do it was always going to appeal to me. And for my money, Dr. S is always at his best when he is employing his considerable intellect, powers of argument, and yes, most of all his passionate anger, in the service of delivering bullies an intellectual kicking.

Ultimately though, that ends up not being precisely what this book is about. Or at least not the full scope of it. And I have to be honest, the end of the piece plain got away from me, as I suspected it might (as, I further suspect, it may even have been intended to). Kersplat, in other words.

But what a damn ride!

So in closing, if this has piqued your interest, I feel pretty safe in saying this is probably something you need in your life. It’s an exhilarating, intellectually stimulating, and yeah, disturbing read.