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The Guinevere Deception by Kiersten White

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thewillowwood's review against another edition

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adventurous emotional mysterious fast-paced
  • Plot- or character-driven? Character
  • Strong character development? Yes
  • Loveable characters? Yes
  • Diverse cast of characters? No
  • Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes

3.75

This book was fun to read! I don’t think it took it in a completely revolutionary direction for the source material, as it fell into the expected beats of Arthurian legend, but a reader who likes Arthuriana and wants something a bit easier than middle english literature would enjoy this book. 

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booksthatburn's review against another edition

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mysterious slow-paced
  • Plot- or character-driven? Plot
  • Strong character development? No
  • Loveable characters? It's complicated
  • Diverse cast of characters? It's complicated
  • Flaws of characters a main focus? It's complicated

1.0

With a narrative that feels like it tossed aside an opportunity for a truly cool trans guy character in exchange for yet another "woman dresses as a man in order to fight" story, THE GUINEVERE DECEPTION presents (cis) female triumph as "doing things (cis) men can't do". It's a well-supported and cohesive story as long as you're fine with the story being that men are bad and women have to pick up all the messes because they're the only ones who can be competent without being evil.

Guinevere (not-Guinevere but there's nothing else to call her) is an artfully crafted protagonist, conscious of her lack of agency even as she makes what choices she can. The thing is that even when she makes decisions, she only makes whatever ones the men didn't take care of first. It's a narrative that tries to frame her as beginning with little agency, and then slowly claiming more. The thing is that her big triumphant moment at the end is doing what she was shaped (by men) to do. Maybe this will get developed later on in the series, but there are bigger issues for me.

I thought at first that maybe Guinevere could be asexual, based on how she and Arthur spoke about their relationship early on. The problem is that since she's young enough that she has her first period during the story and seems to have little to no understanding of what sex is other than that there's some thing more Arthur might want to do with her. Merlin (in Guinevere's backstory) controlled what information she has and gave he what he thought she needed to know, sending her to be a bride without any understanding of what is euphemistically encompassed by a "wedding night". This makes the moments that could be read as ace characterization feel like exploitation of a child instead. Unless I missed something her exact age isn't given, though Arthur is implied to be youthful while also old enough to have a sexual past of his own. This fits the historical context, but I'm more unnerved by it being shown through implications, like I had to piece together just how young and exploited she is.

I mostly enjoyed the story, until I realized it was so committed to the idea that "men are bad, actually", that it does a disservice to one of its characters in a way that was frustrating and makes for a worse story. There's a masked character (knight who always has the helmet on) who is assumed to be male and is treated as such, but as soon as Guinevere finds out this character is female under the helmet, she begins treating the character accordingly. There's even a moment where, when disguised as a woman, this character says they've never felt right in clothes like this. Every bit of characterization screams some variation of trans-masc (I won't fuss over labels but they're definitely not a cis woman), except for how Guinevere thinks about them. It felt like the protagonist was persistently misgendering a character she likes very much, even though the text didn't seem like it was doing it on purpose. The narrative also focuses on how the parts of Arthur that make him a good king make him a bad husband (one cannot be loyal above all else to both a kingdom and a spouse). That, to me, was a very cool and insightful blend of characterization and storytelling, but formed part of this broader picture where by the time I got three-quarters of the way through, Mordred looked like the only good and effective male character (and if you know anything about Arthurian stories, you know it's trouble when Mordred looks like the only good one). It then further conflates "man" (i.e. male people) with "Man" (i.e. humankind) in the bad guy speech about humanity as a curse. By conflating maleness with humanity, and humanity with malice, then having a cis woman save the day in spite of both, it implicitly places womanhood outside of the corruption of humanity in a way that unsettles me.

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duda_ferreira's review against another edition

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adventurous funny inspiring mysterious reflective medium-paced
  • Plot- or character-driven? A mix
  • Strong character development? Yes
  • Loveable characters? Yes
  • Diverse cast of characters? No
  • Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes

4.75


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frantically's review against another edition

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adventurous dark emotional informative mysterious reflective tense slow-paced
  • Plot- or character-driven? Character
  • Strong character development? Yes
  • Loveable characters? Yes
  • Diverse cast of characters? Yes
  • Flaws of characters a main focus? No

5.0

300pgs of me not knowing what the fuck is going, guinevere having ust with every single character, i also have new ideas for plottwists every single page, still love it a lot

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sarahmreads's review

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adventurous funny hopeful medium-paced
  • Plot- or character-driven? Character
  • Strong character development? Yes
  • Loveable characters? Yes
  • Diverse cast of characters? It's complicated
  • Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes

4.0

My friend Haley keeps praising about this series and I was kind of unsure about picking it up. However, the impulse decision to pick this one up on my kindle was one I don't regret.

Guinevere is off to be married to King Arthur, ruler of the legendary Camelot and wielder of Excalibur. It's the medieval tale we all know and love. However, there's just one catch: Guinevere isn't the person she says she is.

The world-building is simple in the sense that a lot of people already know about the King Arthur stories, so it was really quick to pick up on. Another minor caveat of the King Arthur stories is that we already know a lot of it, so it has to be done in a way that is still nice and refreshing for the readers. And honestly I thought it was done really well! There were twists I wasn't expecting that had me gasping at the end of chapters. One of them I did guess but I'm here for it regardless. All I will say is that I shipped Guinevere with everyone and I will stick with that statement.

Also the magic was so good! I liked that it had a cost with everything you wanted to do. Want to do blindness and confusion? Cool, but prepare to be confused and be blind yourself. It's stuff like that that limits our main character and makes the author find other ways to make her powerful in her own right.

I'm a sucker for King Arthur stories and this book is no exception. The Guinevere Deception is an underrated, decently paced novel and I cannot wait for the next installment!

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allyhoo811's review against another edition

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adventurous inspiring mysterious tense fast-paced
  • Plot- or character-driven? Plot
  • Strong character development? No
  • Loveable characters? Yes
  • Diverse cast of characters? It's complicated
  • Flaws of characters a main focus? No

4.0

Disclaimer: I wanted to start this review off by giving a disclaimer for how I rate YA novels. I don't want to imply that I go easier on my YA rankings; however, I do let certain things slide that I wouldn't in a novel written for an adult audience. Specifically, I won't penalize a YA novel for doing the things it has to do to appeal to and be accessible to a younger audience (and be deemed appropriate by that audience's parents). As such you may seem me mention certain aspects of YA books that do not personally appeal to me in my reviews, but I do not let these things affect my ratings the way I might otherwise with adult fiction.

I was drawn to The Guinevere Deception because I love Arthurian retellings (really I just love retellings in general), and I thought it was a very solid addition to the genre (4 Stars). In my opinion, I think you will have an easier time enjoying/following this story if you already have a general knowledge base regarding Arthurian Legends that extends beyond Disney's "The Sword in the Stone." You definitely don't need to know everything about the mythology surrounding Camelot , in fact, if you have too much knowledge you might be prone to find certain changes annoying. But knowing the basic stories of characters like Guinevere, Lancelot, Mordred, The Lady of the Lake, Tristan and Iseult, Uther Pendragon, Morgan le Fay, etc. certainly adds to the novel. If you don't know anything about these characters already, their book versions may come off underdeveloped. I feel like a lot rests on the fact that these characters are basically archetypes at this point, who the audience should already know.

I will try to keep the rest of my review spoiler free (or mark spoilers for the novel accordingly), but I will probably spoil at least some of the source material in my commentary. So if you don't know anything about Arthurian Legends and don't want to...Don't read further.

The Love Triangle:

What fantasy YA series would be complete without a love triangle? The Guinevere Deception follows the trope of the female protagonist having to chose between the loyal and noble (often powerful) man she is promised to and the more mysterious, brooding man she is deeply attracted too. Luckily,  this trope has always appealed to me and the soap opera loving teenage girl I once was. The Arthur/Guinevere/Mordred triangle worked for me; this trope almost always works for me even in fantasy novels geared toward adults. It always reminds me of the Game of Thrones idea that "duty is the death of love" or "love being the death of duty". If you don't like this trope, this story isn't for you. I on the other hand found myself rooting for Mordred and wondering if/how he was going to turn evil like in the original legend.

The Plot:

The overall plot is good. The fast-paced chapters (typical of YA fantasy) kept me interested and wanting to read more. However, I will say it felt very much like a setup novel -- when I was done reading, it felt like not a lot had really happened until the very end, and ironically that part --
Mordred "being dark side" the Dark Queen returning
-- felt too quick, like it happened to early in the story. Save that twist for the end of Book 2. But it was still an enjoyable ride.

The Lancelot Twist:

This might be an unpopular opinion, but I did not like how the Lancelot Twist was handled. This is one of the aforementioned areas where knowing a good deal about Arthurian Legends might hinder your enjoyment. Lancelot turning out to be a woman is fine, I even kind of like the gender-swap idea at first pass, but then I started thinking about all the aspects of the original characters past that will be left out (his connection to the Lady of the Lake, Galahad and Elaine, etc.), and I'm not sure how I feel about it. Honestly, I think the twist would have worked better for me if the Patchwork Knight part hadn't been a thing, and the character just called themselves Lancelot while in disguised in the tournament, but actually had another name. In part, because Lancelot is just not a women's name and mainly because it was obvious from the first mention that the Patchwork Knight was Lancelot. You didn't need the double reveal that the Patchwork Knight was *gasp* Lancelot and *gasp* a woman. Maybe more will be revealed about Lancelot's past in the rest of the series and I will be okay with it once that happens.


Character Ages:

Arthur is way too young. I get this is YA, but Arthur being 18 doesn't make sense. He's been king for maybe 2 years and has already had time to do a ridiculous amount of stuff for Camelot (usurping a title, securing borders, building a stone church, setting up a functioning economy, having how many knights join through long difficult tournament processes). Again, I get why he needed to be 18, but it makes no sense.

Generic Fantasy Setting:

Small thing, but the story should take place in the late 4th-early 5th century, and based on a few historical references it seems to, but the setting described feels too "modern" in most instances to really be that early in British History.

Use of Lore:

I like a lot of the changes made to the lore and the plot of Guinevere being a "changeling." I'm not loving the few scenes we've seen with Merlin though, but I can't really explain why.

The Realistic Treatment (or lack there of) of Sex/Violence/War:

The handling of many mature topics in the book is very watered down. And it is a YA novel, so that makes sense. I'm not going to harp much on this point, because I get the why, but I will say I hate that Guinevere is made out to be so terribly naïve when it comes to matters of reproduction and sexuality. It is given an explanation (or we are at least building toward that explanation) in the novel, which is something you can't say about most YA novels in this area, but I still hate it in YA. Tying the female character's virtue to naivety and virginity is just not a message I like being sent to teen girls. I mean Guinevere doesn't even know what her period is -- that was usually the tell-tale sign a woman was old enough to marry at that time and Guinevere hasn't had hers yet and thinks she's dying??? Even though it does make sense for this story (i.e. she doesn't remember losing teeth as a child), I still don't like it's inclusion as a plot point in a YA novel (happens too often without reasons). *steps off soapbox*

Overall, really enjoyed and will be continuing on in the series.

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3.75


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melaniereadsbooks's review against another edition

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adventurous mysterious tense medium-paced
  • Strong character development? Yes
  • Loveable characters? Yes
  • Diverse cast of characters? It's complicated
  • Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes

4.75

I absolutely love this retelling of King Arthur. The magic, the courtly politics, the deception and the betrayal all have me on the edge of my seat, even as a reread. I love all the characters and even though this is a retelling, I still don't know what's coming! I love it.

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This was so good! I love King Arthur retellings and this is my favorite so far! Guinevere is a treasure and I'm in love with Lancelot! This is such an amazing book and I can't wait for the sequel!



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caidyn's review against another edition

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adventurous tense fast-paced
  • Plot- or character-driven? A mix
  • Strong character development? Yes
  • Loveable characters? Yes
  • Diverse cast of characters? It's complicated
  • Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes

4.0

CW: kidnapping, physical assault, and (well) deception

The reason I decided to request this one is because I love Arthurian mythology. While I don't always love the retellings, I'm a sucker for at least trying them. And I was pleasantly surprised by this one!

Arthur is king. Merlin is gone. Guinevere is coming to marry Arthur. Except she's not who she says she is. She's there to protect him, to keep him safe now that Merlin's left the scene. And, she's magical. Camelot isn't having magic, though, banishing it. Guinevere's risking her life by being there, both for her magical abilities and by trying to make sure Arthur lives up to the prophecy.

I did enjoy the characters in this. I liked Guinevere a lot. Arthur was interesting and my ace heart is holding out hope that he could be ace as well. (Holding out hope but not really believing it'll actually happen.) Then, there's Mordred, Arthur's nephew. The typical Lancelot is also on the scene, but not exactly how you'd picture that character.

One thing I wasn't a fan of was how there were so many possible romances. I was almost expecting a love rectangle between Arthur, Mordred, and Lancelot. I'm very happy that it didn't happen like that, but, still, the love triangle wasn't what I wanted. I liked how it played into the plot in the end -- like, the actual end-game of the book rather than we're focusing a plot around a love triangle -- but it took so long to get there.

Because the book is slow. There's not a lot that happens in this book due to it just trying to lay the scene for the twist on Arthurian legend, getting all the characters down, and moving towards the end of the book. There was so much that had to be established and set down. I did kinda guess the ending/twist, but that's because I've read the actual legends and I'm familiar with how characters are usually presented. So if you're familiar, you won't be shocked by it.

I thought that this was a fun book. This was my third chance for White -- I read And I Darken and thought it was mediocre; then I DNFed The Dark Descent of Elizabeth Frankenstein -- so I'm very happy that this was a win for me. I'm definitely going to continue with the series so I can see where it's going!

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