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Detransition, Baby by Torrey Peters

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na_no's review against another edition

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4.0

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aliciae08's review against another edition

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Plot- or character-driven? A mix
Strong character development? It's complicated
Loveable characters? It's complicated
Diverse cast of characters? No
Flaws of characters a main focus? It's complicated

3.75

I just finished Detransition, Baby, and I’m still sussing out my thoughts.

The conclusion I’ve come up with is complicated—as it should be, as the characters are complicated.

What I loved:

the exploration of womanhood, motherhood, gender expression and queerness;
The imperfectness of the characters so that the reader knew that no one person’s identity is monolithic. It is entirely one’s own;
The idea that we can create our own family
The exploration of why the characters are the way that they are (especially Ames).

What I didn’t like:

Others have mentioned the clumsiness of race within this, and how the inclusion of Katrina being the one major character of color might be a metaphor for how the white trans experience isn’t the only one. It doesn’t work for me fir so many reasons, but the first one being that whenever she brings race up it feels like someone who hasn’t actually experienced being a minority, and because any attempts at relating with Katrina by Reese/Ames are shut down.
Some of the writing, as beautiful as it is, was over the top for me. I was sometimes waiting to get to the end of a chapter and I hate feeling like that.

What I found challenging:

Reese said things about womanhood and the need to feel delicate (particularly when she was with Stanley and the Cowboy) that I wholeheartedly couldn’t relate to, but have to admit that at some point in my own life defined my own perception of what it means to be woman and the need for men to view me as someone worthy of being taken care of/defended etc. I think it’s easy for people (especially those looking for an excuse to hate this book) to use it as a way to accuse people like Reese, at worse, of cosplaying womanhood, when that’s not what’s happening.
Ames’, before their transition to Amy, misogyny and further internalized misogyny was hard to read, mostly because I grieved for that character.

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kyrstin_p1989's review against another edition

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Plot- or character-driven? Character
Strong character development? It's complicated
Loveable characters? It's complicated
Diverse cast of characters? Yes
Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes

2.5

While interesting, I really struggled to get into this book. In part, I think it was the way it was written — the back and forth between characters and time periods made the book feel choppy and disconnected. The entire time I was reading, I never fell into the story. It just felt like I was reading — not experiencing it. The insights about being trans were the highlight for me. I felt deep sorrow for the characters who wanted so deeply to be themselves in ways society or biology would not allow.

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bookwormbi's review against another edition

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Plot- or character-driven? Character
Strong character development? It's complicated
Loveable characters? It's complicated
Diverse cast of characters? It's complicated
Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes

3.75

Whatever I feel about this book, it is a fascinating read. I have a counter argument for every opinion I have about the book, which makes it very difficult to boil down my thoughts into something that makes sense. To me, this book is what happens when a white trans woman is terrified of writing the trans equivalent of Girls, and then, inevitably, writes the trans equivalent of Girls. This is most obvious in the book’s treatment of race and identity politics. It took me a moment to figure out whether Peters was a self aware antiracist white writer writing white characters who were clumsy about race, or if she herself was clumsy about race. (Spoiler alert: it’s the latter.) Katrina is the mouthpiece for the racial considerations that Reese and Ames sidestep, but it just got exhausting to listen to her constantly fighting with clueless white people. To be clear, the concerns Katrina brings up are important and I appreciate Peters’s attempt to bring a different perspective into her chronicle of Ames and Reese’s privileged experience of transness, but as a person of color, it hurt my heart to imagine Katrina having this fight with Ames and Reese for the rest of her life. At no point does the narrative acknowledge the emotional labor Katrina is putting into this whole experience not just as a woman, but as a woman of color. Reese and Ames then marshal their trans experiences against her, and it just turns into this very futile game of oppression Olympics in which Peters, try as she might to detach herself from the outcome, ultimately lands her sympathies with the white women.

I got the impression that much of what I disliked about Detransition, Baby was Peters’s attempt to be write a story that could ostensibly be for all trans women from a very narrow perspective, instead of owning that narrowness. The best parts of the book—the Sex and the City Problem, the juvenile elephants, the journeys of Reese and Ames’s transitions and detransition and the dissolution of their relationship—were the parts where Peters wrote as a white trans woman for white trans women. In the wider book landscape, there are very few trans stories, and even less stories about trans women, and I understand Peters’s desire to try to universalize her experience a little bit. To her credit, she rarely tries to speak for trans women of color (although she certainly speaks for cis women of color via Katrina), and much of the discussion about race and racism seems to be a well-intentioned attempt to telegraph her awareness of her privilege, so people don’t say things like what I’m saying right now. To be frank, I wish this book could be the trans version of one of the thousands of TV shows that centers cishet white men and doesn’t trouble itself to think about anybody else. Peters is not the first queer or trans writer whose anxiety over whether or not Twitter would call them racist I could feel through the page. I’m tired of it, frankly. I am a trans person of color, I know I am exactly who Peters is afraid of, and I understand why. I can see a version of this book that I dislike because there are no people of color in it and the characters’ racial insensitivities go unchallenged. But to be honest? I think I’d respect that version of the book a bit more.

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Plot- or character-driven? A mix
Strong character development? Yes
Loveable characters? It's complicated
Diverse cast of characters? Yes
Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes

4.75

To me, the point of this book is not to proselytize or morally educate, but rather to present opinions and feelings and experiences that are messy and different from your own. This is an honest reflection of what it is to be a person, flawed and singular and wonderful.

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