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joannalouise's review against another edition
adventurous
challenging
dark
informative
slow-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? Plot
- Strong character development? It's complicated
- Loveable characters? It's complicated
- Diverse cast of characters? No
- Flaws of characters a main focus? No
3.5
Content Warnings
Moderate: Ableism, Child death, and Self harm
bomenvernietiger's review
adventurous
challenging
informative
inspiring
fast-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? No
- Diverse cast of characters? Yes
- Flaws of characters a main focus? No
4.75
All the points for blowing me away completely. Minus a little for not always understanding women and autism.
This would be fully timeless, except that the author felt the need to include such a sexist trope as a father coming to terms with his daughter developing breasts. This holds the particular story back decades.
This would be fully timeless, except that the author felt the need to include such a sexist trope as a father coming to terms with his daughter developing breasts. This holds the particular story back decades.
Content Warnings
Moderate: Mental illness, Suicide, and Death
Minor: Injury/Injury detail, Racism, Sexism, Ableism, Fire/Fire injury, Medical trauma, and Blood
kappafrog's review against another edition
challenging
informative
mysterious
slow-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? Plot
- Strong character development? It's complicated
- Loveable characters? It's complicated
- Diverse cast of characters? Yes
- Flaws of characters a main focus? It's complicated
3.25
Content Warnings
Graphic: Classism
Moderate: Ableism, Car accident, Toxic friendship, Animal cruelty, and Violence
Minor: Torture
pandact's review against another edition
challenging
dark
mysterious
reflective
sad
medium-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? It's complicated
- Diverse cast of characters? It's complicated
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
4.5
I found this because of Alex Kasman's MathFiction Database because who can resist a title like "Division By Zero?" I was primed to enjoy that story the most, but most of Ted Chiang's stories get stuck in my head for years.
The only reason I subtract half a star is that it's been a while and I'm not sure how it aged! I remember Division By Zero most clearly because it's the kind of story you have to reread...The coolest part, for me, was the way each parallel narrative was part of a proof that 1=2, which was so meta! I disagree with people saying that they're doomed as a couple because the man's whole problem was how he couldn't relate to math research, but her disastrous discovery is something he can understand. The mathematician's arc is looking for something else to find meaning in, so why can't they be two people together now?
The only reason I subtract half a star is that it's been a while and I'm not sure how it aged! I remember Division By Zero most clearly because it's the kind of story you have to reread...
Content Warnings
Moderate: Religious bigotry, Car accident, Grief, and Ableism
ryyy27's review
dark
emotional
mysterious
reflective
medium-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? Plot
- Strong character development? No
- Loveable characters? No
- Diverse cast of characters? Yes
- Flaws of characters a main focus? No
4.0
Content Warnings
Graphic: Ableism, Suicidal thoughts, Death, Suicide, and Suicide attempt
Minor: Violence
polychromatic_hedgehog_parable's review against another edition
reflective
medium-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? Plot
- Strong character development? No
- Loveable characters? No
- Diverse cast of characters? It's complicated
- Flaws of characters a main focus? No
2.75
WTAF TED CHIANG
1. Ted Chiang seems to me to be a very good writer
2. I disliked most of the stories in this collection
3. lmao why use the c-slur so often????
ableism:
"[...] your ability to interact with others is c****led. It'd be a kind of high-functioning autism."
fuck that lmao.
I'm still uncertain where I fall on discounting relationships in favour of world building etc, and certainly feel that I discount the former for the later more than some people I know. I feel like a problem I had with this collection is that it tended to concentrate on world building & philosophical ideas over compelling characters and I just... wasn't interested in any of the philosophy Ted Chiang seemed to be interested in? idk.
I also tended to prefer the stories that were more multi-fauceted/introduced multiple perspectives. Maybe: the presence of multiple perspectives makes the world seem more real or enriches the perspective of the main character?
Many of the stories had distinct writing styles, which I found to be neat! And I felt like Ted Chiang did a good job of switching?
I thought it was cool to have a section in the back for where you got your ideas for each story. That sounds potentially very fun to write/share! :O
(more ableism, eugenics)
tower of babylon: why have I read multiple science fiction stories about the shape of the world being a [cylinder, hyperbola, other 3D shape] instead of a sphere. I don't find these very interesting. Now I feel like I should write one, though. or find more and create a collection. they're a meme.
story of your life: I liked the movie a lot better lol. I didn't really like the story. I did cry a bit though.
seventy-two letters: "I've invented DNA so as to save poor people from eugenics" is a really weird plot for a short story. I liked that the short story engaged so directly with racism & classism, but then the resolution seemed to involve fully side stepping eugenics through the ingenious invention of DNA, in a way I feel parallels many popular understandings of eugenics as an idea that was most persuasive in Europe during the second industrial revolution. It's still persuasive. People are literally dying rn. I just had a conversation with someone who is directly targeted eugenics yesterday.
hell is the absence of god: ok I really liked this one and also found it too relatable LMAO. I enjoyed the frank, recognizable depictions of different types of christians/relationships with religion.
liking what you see: ok I literally just finished the book and will need to think more about this. but I enjoyed the format!
honestly I got this book for free somewhere and I was considering putting it back in a free little library when I was done with it but maybe I'll keep it just for the one story. maybe not.
1. Ted Chiang seems to me to be a very good writer
2. I disliked most of the stories in this collection
3. lmao why use the c-slur so often????
ableism:
"[...] your ability to interact with others is c****led. It'd be a kind of high-functioning autism."
fuck that lmao.
I'm still uncertain where I fall on discounting relationships in favour of world building etc, and certainly feel that I discount the former for the later more than some people I know. I feel like a problem I had with this collection is that it tended to concentrate on world building & philosophical ideas over compelling characters and I just... wasn't interested in any of the philosophy Ted Chiang seemed to be interested in? idk.
I also tended to prefer the stories that were more multi-fauceted/introduced multiple perspectives. Maybe: the presence of multiple perspectives makes the world seem more real or enriches the perspective of the main character?
Many of the stories had distinct writing styles, which I found to be neat! And I felt like Ted Chiang did a good job of switching?
I thought it was cool to have a section in the back for where you got your ideas for each story. That sounds potentially very fun to write/share! :O
(more ableism, eugenics)
tower of babylon: why have I read multiple science fiction stories about the shape of the world being a [cylinder, hyperbola, other 3D shape] instead of a sphere. I don't find these very interesting. Now I feel like I should write one, though. or find more and create a collection. they're a meme.
story of your life: I liked the movie a lot better lol. I didn't really like the story. I did cry a bit though.
seventy-two letters: "I've invented DNA so as to save poor people from eugenics" is a really weird plot for a short story. I liked that the short story engaged so directly with racism & classism, but then the resolution seemed to involve fully side stepping eugenics through the ingenious invention of DNA, in a way I feel parallels many popular understandings of eugenics as an idea that was most persuasive in Europe during the second industrial revolution. It's still persuasive. People are literally dying rn. I just had a conversation with someone who is directly targeted eugenics yesterday.
hell is the absence of god: ok I really liked this one and also found it too relatable LMAO. I enjoyed the frank, recognizable depictions of different types of christians/relationships with religion.
liking what you see: ok I literally just finished the book and will need to think more about this. but I enjoyed the format!
honestly I got this book for free somewhere and I was considering putting it back in a free little library when I was done with it but maybe I'll keep it just for the one story. maybe not.
Content Warnings
Graphic: Ableism
c-slur up the wazoobwwilhelm's review against another edition
adventurous
challenging
emotional
hopeful
inspiring
mysterious
reflective
medium-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? It's complicated
- Loveable characters? It's complicated
- Diverse cast of characters? N/A
- Flaws of characters a main focus? N/A
5.0
Content Warnings
Graphic: Drug use, Drug abuse, Grief, Mental illness, Panic attacks/disorders, Suicidal thoughts, and Suicide attempt
Moderate: Ableism, Death, and Medical content
Minor: Acephobia/Arophobia, Child death, Infertility, Misogyny, Racism, Sexism, Violence, and Xenophobia
booksthatburn's review against another edition
reflective
sad
tense
medium-paced
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? It's complicated
- Diverse cast of characters? It's complicated
- Flaws of characters a main focus? It's complicated
4.0
These stories play with math, language, and science, situating their more technical aspects within various strange and internally consistent rule-sets which stretch into the fantastic while wearing the clothes of the scientific, all to tell deeply moving stories about people in strange worlds which are almost like our own. From a literal interpretation of the Tower of Babel wherein they reach to the heavens, to a mathematical formalism so destabilizing that it drives the theorist to despair, to a contemplation on beauty and appearance which refuses to ever quite take a side on its central question. One of the strengths of this collection is the worldbuilding, the way the details vary from story to story but they're all extremely immersive, exploring the strange corners of each premise while still feeling complete and focused. My favorites were "Tower of Babylon" and "Understand", closely followed by "Story of Your Life" (upon which the 2016 film, "Arrival" is based). Several of them were uncomfortable in a good way, but that experience will obviously vary widely.
Content Warnings
Moderate: Death, Mental illness, Panic attacks/disorders, Suicidal thoughts, and Violence
Minor: Ableism, Bullying, Racism, Sexism, Suicide, and Torture
Tower of Babylon: CW for death. Understand: CW for anxiety, PTSD, panic attacks, major character death (not depicted), death (not depicted). Division by Zero: CW for mental illness, attempted suicide. Story of Your Life: CW for death (not depicted). Seventy-Two Letters: CW for sexism, racism, eugenics, violence, torture (not depicted), death (not depicted). The Evolution of Human Science: No major CWs. Hell is the Absence of God: CW for bullying (not depicted), ableism, discussion of suicide, major character death, death. “Liking What You see: A Documentary”: CW for sexism (minor), ableism (minor).
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