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lenore2185's review against another edition
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? No
- Loveable characters? No
- Diverse cast of characters? No
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
1.5
First of all, the Felurian calling Kvothe a "lusty man" after trying to death by snu snu. Bitch, that's a child. He is sixteen. Go to prison.
Then all the Adem women finding this child irresistible. I don't know a single woman in her late 20s who would look at a 16-17 year old boy (again, a child) and go "Yeah, I want that." Go to prison.
Then Kvothe bravely rescues two girls from bandits, living out that weird power fantasy that men seem to have where they stop a rape by beating up a rapist (and yet they won't call their male friends out for sexually harassing or assaulting someone....okay). And after being brutally raped for days on end, one of these girls has the audacity to say "I hate men." I know, the horror. A girl experiences multiple brutal assaults by multiple men and has decided that she doesn't particularly like or trust men right now. And Kvothe, the dumbass, gets upset and says "I'm a man :( we're not all like that." He really looked this girl in the eye after she survived being raped and said "Well not all men!" Fuck off. It's even worse that it's implied he almost experienced sexual assault in his backstory, and yet he couldn't conjure up even a little bit of empathy. What the actual fucking fuck is all of this.
Tl;dr why did this book have to get so horny when the main character is a 16 year old boy. That's a child. Kvothe is a child. There are multiple sex scenes featuring a child. Go to prison.
Moderate: Sexism, Misogyny, Sexual assault, Pedophilia, and Rape
mariebrunelm's review against another edition
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? No
- Loveable characters? No
- Diverse cast of characters? No
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
3.75
Can I admit that towards the end of this book I wondered what had happened in the first 90% to justify making it so long? I mean… I'm all for slow-paced books. I don't need action in my books, I can live on prose and vibes basically. And Rothfuss absolutely delivers both of these, which is why I reached the end of this book. But did I care for the main character along the 1100 pages of his adventures? Nope. Did I believe he had been dictating those 1100 pages in a day, as he is supposed to have done? Certainly not. The audiobook is over 42 HOURS, come on. 😂 Did the fact that the number of women went from 1 in book 1 to a handful in book 2 make it less cringy? I'm not entirely sure. Readers, I am confused. I don't know what to think except that this was *very* long. And while I still enjoy book 1 upon re-reading it, I don't feel like re-reading this one. One thing I'm happy about is having read the book that had been sitting on my TBR for the longest time (we're talking at least 6 years, probably more).
Moderate: Sexism and Violence
proza's review against another edition
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? No
- Loveable characters? It's complicated
- Diverse cast of characters? No
- Flaws of characters a main focus? No
3.75
Graphic: Physical abuse, Rape, Sexism, Sexual assault, Adult/minor relationship, Child abuse, Mental illness, Bullying, Death of parent, Death, Grief, Misogyny, Murder, Sexual content, Sexual harassment, Sexual violence, and Violence
Moderate: Blood, Medical content, Panic attacks/disorders, Racial slurs, Racism, and Pregnancy
Minor: Alcohol, Fire/Fire injury, and War
nerdkitten's review against another edition
- Plot- or character-driven? Character
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? Yes
- Diverse cast of characters? Yes
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
5.0
Graphic: Adult/minor relationship, Blood, Violence, Xenophobia, Gore, Injury/Injury detail, Alcohol, Drug abuse, Classism, Sexual content, Fire/Fire injury, and Torture
Moderate: Mental illness, Medical content, Chronic illness, Cultural appropriation, Death, Kidnapping, Murder, Sexual assault, and Physical abuse
Minor: Pregnancy, Cursing, Excrement, Grief, Sexual violence, War, Infidelity, Misogyny, Rape, Sexism, Death of parent, Biphobia, and Racial slurs
giulianalb99's review against another edition
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? It's complicated
- Diverse cast of characters? No
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
3.0
No puedo creer que de 1190 páginas que tiene el libro, más de la mitad sea PURO RELLENO porque hay millones de cosas que sobran, por eso me pregunto: ¿por qué es tan innecesariamente largo? 2 malditas semanas me ha llevado terminarme este libro que, de aquí a que salga el tercero (que seguramente me habré muerto y todo), lo tendré que volver a leer porque sé perfectamente que se me va a olvidar absolutamente todo. Tampoco entiendo muy bien qué pretende Rothfuss con el tercer tomo ¿Tendrá el doble de páginas? Porque este libro es TAN lento y todavía no sé casi nada de lo que de verdad importa: los putos Chandrian. Y no solo eso, es que el prota ha llamado al viento ¿cuánto? ¿dos veces? Que alguien me explique PARA QUÉ tanta palabrería para que pasen sólo un par de cosas interesantes.
En el primer libro me encantó Kvothe, pero en este simplemente me parece bastante arrogante y la mayoría de las veces se cree mejor que cualquier persona que le rodea. Hay algunos personajes nuevos que no están mal pero me faltan mujeres en la historia, y ni voy a decir nada sobre algunos comentarios misóginos repartidos por el libro porque sino mi lado feminista sale a la luz y mi reseña sería interminable.
Ni siquiera sé porqué le doy 3 estrellas, pero le doy el beneficio de la duda. Alomejor no era el momento adecuado para leer este libro y alomejor tenía unas expectativas bastante altas después del primero (y eso es culpa mía). No me desagrada para nada cómo escribe Rothfuss, pero no puedo no recalcar la cantidad de páginas innecesarias. Por supuesto que me leeré el tercero, pero ya me toca esperar a un futuro bastante lejano.
Graphic: Death of parent, Injury/Injury detail, Misogyny, Murder, Sexism, Blood, Gaslighting, Grief, Alcohol, Chronic illness, Cursing, Death, Physical abuse, and Violence
akirma's review against another edition
- Plot- or character-driven? Plot
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? It's complicated
- Diverse cast of characters? No
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
4.0
Graphic: Death of parent, Grief, Sexism, Violence, Medical content, Murder, Death, Injury/Injury detail, and Sexual content
Moderate: Sexual harassment, Racism, Blood, Racial slurs, Death of parent, Cursing, Confinement, Alcohol, Animal death, Sexual violence, Rape, Homophobia, and Sexual content
amelia_d's review against another edition
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? It's complicated
- Loveable characters? It's complicated
- Diverse cast of characters? Yes
- Flaws of characters a main focus? It's complicated
2.5
The main positive for me is the incredible, detailed and original world building. I felt really engrossed in the world and loved learning more about how this world works.
For the most part I also found the story very compelling and intriguing, although it is quite scattered in a real-worldy kind of way which I'm aware some people didn't like.
Despite all that, the negatives for me almost made it unreadable at times. The main issue for me was that I found Kvothe thoroughly unlikeable, for most of the book he's constantly bragging about everything he does and how brilliant he is at everything he tries. I found this very grating. However it was almost unreadable due to the way Kvothe talks about women. I won't get into the details so this can remain spoiler free but at times I felt like I was reading a fanfic written by a 14 year old boy or an incel. I was cringing and sending pics to my friends/boyfriend of some paragraphs because I actually couldn't believe what I was reading. It felt very much like reading an incel's sexual fantasy who wishes that they could be Kvothe and I absolutely hated it. (also mild spoiler, there's a bit where Kvothe almost literally says "not all men" to a SA victim, seriously.)
So I am very torn. As I say, the story is compelling and intriguing and the world building is very impressive but at times the writing got so bad in terms of female characters in particular that I really don't know that I could bring nyself to read the 3rd book if it's ever completed.
Graphic: Grief, Murder, and Death
Moderate: Kidnapping, Misogyny, and Sexism
Minor: Rape, Sexual violence, Sexual assault, and Physical abuse
tinyjude's review against another edition
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? No
- Loveable characters? No
- Diverse cast of characters? No
1.25
I thought the book was never going to end, even when I skipped some chapters because they were so fcking unnecessary. So, because I was dreadfully bored and I want to get this done quickly here it goes:
The first half is the same as the first book, same problems, same enemies, everything felt like the 1st book which doesn't help to further the plot. Then, he travels the world but it quickly becomes boring as the story drags and drags and drags on inconsequential events. And just when I was starting to tolerate Denna, it gets worse. No single woman character can be saved here oh my god. The sexism in the descriptions... I wanted to hit myself with the book (and mind you, it weights more than a fcking brick so I could probably end with my skull half-opened). They are disgustingly described and characterized by their beauty and sensual qualities, they all fall for him, try to be cold but melt under his touch and oh, the part with the fata woman. I thought it was satire. I didn't need to read about how much he fcks and how a virgin boy is so good in bed. Dude, I can't believe that and I don't care, go back to the important plot.
And none of the big questions are answered. Just more sub-plots are added and not resolved. The pacing is bad, many chapters were not needed, the female characters need a shit ton of development, he is still a pain in the ass knowing-all and annoying. Many information about how intelligent or dexterous he is, is repeated following the exact same grammatical structure, which made it even more irritating. I just wanted this torture to end. I am probably missing a lot of other complaints and criticisms but I just want to forget already about this book
Moderate: Drug use, Addiction, Alcohol, Blood, Classism, Death, Domestic abuse, Gore, Misogyny, Sexism, Sexual assault, Stalking, Violence, and Xenophobia
darkefyres's review against another edition
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? Yes
- Diverse cast of characters? It's complicated
- Flaws of characters a main focus? It's complicated
4.5
Graphic: Blood, Death, Drug abuse, Medical trauma, Sexism, and Torture
Moderate: Rape, Sexual assault, Sexual content, and Sexual violence
Minor: Death of parent, Classism, Cursing, Fire/Fire injury, and Gore
ozblom24's review against another edition
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? No
- Loveable characters? It's complicated
- Diverse cast of characters? No
- Flaws of characters a main focus? No
4.0
Minor: Sexism