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connora795's review against another edition
adventurous
challenging
mysterious
slow-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? No
- Diverse cast of characters? Yes
- Flaws of characters a main focus? It's complicated
3.5
The book was good, I liked that Kvothe got some character development he REALLY needed. I wish he didn’t spend so much time in the university or so much time simping over Denna
Content Warnings
Graphic: Sexual content
Moderate: Violence
mhshokuhi's review against another edition
adventurous
dark
emotional
funny
mysterious
medium-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? Yes
- Diverse cast of characters? Yes
- Flaws of characters a main focus? No
2.75
به طور کلی کتاب خوبی نبود. نه تنها نزدیک به میزانی که هایپ میشه نیست، حتی کتاب قابل توجهی هم نیست.
البته منظورم این نیست که کتاب بدیه، کتاب پر از وقایع باحال و جذابه و هر کدوم جداگانه چیزهای خوبی‌اند و مشخصه که نویسنده خیلی ایده جذاب داره اما نمی‌تونه انتخاب کنه و می‌خواد به همشون یکجا بپردازه و این باعث میشه کتاب به شدت طولانی، پر از وقایع نامهم و بالا و پایین‌های نامنظم باشه. اگه کتاب به چند جلد مختلف تقسیم می‌شد (مثلاً یه رمان اصلی و یه سری کتاب جانبی) که هر کتاب فراز و فرود خودش رو داشته باشه واقعاً نتیجه‌اش به نظرم بهتر می‌شد. الان اینطوریه که با حال و هوای کتاب قبل شروع می‌کنی، یکهو اما بورینگ و پر از روابط درباری میشه، یکهو ماجراجویی و اکشن میشه، یکهو کووت آفتاب مهتاب ندیده خدای سکس میشه و بعدش می‌ره فنون پیشرفته سکس‌فو (بر وزن کونگ‌فو. توی یکی از نقدها دیدم، خیلی واژه‌سازی خوبی کرده بود برای این قسمت کتاب 🤣) رو از یه پری یاد می‌گیره اما به جای اینکه عقلش رو از دست بده (ملت از شدت عشق به فِلوریِن دیوانه میشن یا هرچی) یا بلایی سرش بیاد سر یه واقعه دیگه (که باید بیاد) در می‌ره الکی الکی و بعدش یکهو نویسنده می‌پره پایین و باز بورینگ میشه و شروع به توصیف یه سری آدم می‌کنه که روی اعصابن و مثلاً می‌خوان یه ویچر-اسسین به نظر بیان اما در اون حد نیستن و جذابیت خاصی ندارن و و رسوماتشون مسخره است -_- حالا بعد اون باز کتاب یکم بهتر میشه اما کلا چیز تازه‌ای برای عرضه نداره و تکراری هست همه چیزها و نمی‌تونم خودم رو راضی کنم بیشتر از ۲.۷۵ بهش بدم. در حد ۲ نیست اما ۳ هم زیادشه 😅
مشکلم البته با بالا و پایین شدن نیست، مشکلم با یکهویی بودن همه چیزه، کلا هی از این ماجرا می‌پره به اون ماجرا بدون transition درست و حسابی و حس می‌کنی داری ۵۰تا داستان کوتاه بی‌ربط رو می‌خونی که ۴۸تاش ابدا مهم نیستن برای داستان اصلی که یادش رفته تعریف کنه نویسنده.
کتاب قبلی سیر پیشرفت خیلی بهتر داشت، هی موضوع جذاب می‌گذاشت جلوت و توی چند فصل آینده شرح می‌داد و همینطور تا آخر و مشکلات دیگه‌ای که توی نقد اون کتاب گفتم رو کامل می‌پوشوند.
و وای، راتفوس چقدر از کلمه nonchalant و مشتقاتش استفاده می‌کنه، دیوانه شدم -_- نان‌شلانت و کوفت و زهر مار. یه سری عبارت و اینهای دیگه هم هستن که به شدت زیاد استفاده میشن و واقعاً روی اعصابم بودن. اصلاً نشونه خوبی توی نویسندگی نیست به نظرم اونم وقتی جمله‌بندی‌هات ابدا سنگین یا کهنه یا اپیک نیست 😬
البته تلاش کرده جملاتش آهنگین باشه یه سری جاها و بد هم نیست اما اونقدر هم مهم نیست. مثلاً مقایسه کنید با آهنگ جملات تالکین که شاید به راحتی(؟) این نباشه آهنگش مثلاً اما اونجا قشنگ انگار به نفر روی صندلی نشسته و یه کتاب بزرگ دستش هست و داره برات داستان می‌خونه، برخلاف اینجا که کووت مثلاً داره همین کار رو می‌کنه حدوداً.
واقعاً می‌خواستم که این مجموعه رو دوست داشته باشم و با کلی ذوق و شوق شروع کردم اما نشد :/ به‌خصوص حدود یک سوم آخر جلد ۲ رو به زور جلو بردم. جلد سوم وقتی بیاد اگه جلد آخر باشه می‌خونمش که تمومش کرده باشم، اما اگه بخواد کشش بده بعیده سراغش برم 😬
البته منظورم این نیست که کتاب بدیه، کتاب پر از وقایع باحال و جذابه و هر کدوم جداگانه چیزهای خوبی‌اند و مشخصه که نویسنده خیلی ایده جذاب داره اما نمی‌تونه انتخاب کنه و می‌خواد به همشون یکجا بپردازه و این باعث میشه کتاب به شدت طولانی، پر از وقایع نامهم و بالا و پایین‌های نامنظم باشه. اگه کتاب به چند جلد مختلف تقسیم می‌شد (مثلاً یه رمان اصلی و یه سری کتاب جانبی) که هر کتاب فراز و فرود خودش رو داشته باشه واقعاً نتیجه‌اش به نظرم بهتر می‌شد. الان اینطوریه که با حال و هوای کتاب قبل شروع می‌کنی، یکهو اما بورینگ و پر از روابط درباری میشه، یکهو ماجراجویی و اکشن میشه، یکهو کووت آفتاب مهتاب ندیده خدای سکس میشه و بعدش می‌ره فنون پیشرفته سکس‌فو (بر وزن کونگ‌فو. توی یکی از نقدها دیدم، خیلی واژه‌سازی خوبی کرده بود برای این قسمت کتاب 🤣) رو از یه پری یاد می‌گیره اما به جای اینکه عقلش رو از دست بده (ملت از شدت عشق به فِلوریِن دیوانه میشن یا هرچی) یا بلایی سرش بیاد سر یه واقعه دیگه (که باید بیاد) در می‌ره الکی الکی و بعدش یکهو نویسنده می‌پره پایین و باز بورینگ میشه و شروع به توصیف یه سری آدم می‌کنه که روی اعصابن و مثلاً می‌خوان یه ویچر-اسسین به نظر بیان اما در اون حد نیستن و جذابیت خاصی ندارن و و رسوماتشون مسخره است -_- حالا بعد اون باز کتاب یکم بهتر میشه اما کلا چیز تازه‌ای برای عرضه نداره و تکراری هست همه چیزها و نمی‌تونم خودم رو راضی کنم بیشتر از ۲.۷۵ بهش بدم. در حد ۲ نیست اما ۳ هم زیادشه 😅
مشکلم البته با بالا و پایین شدن نیست، مشکلم با یکهویی بودن همه چیزه، کلا هی از این ماجرا می‌پره به اون ماجرا بدون transition درست و حسابی و حس می‌کنی داری ۵۰تا داستان کوتاه بی‌ربط رو می‌خونی که ۴۸تاش ابدا مهم نیستن برای داستان اصلی که یادش رفته تعریف کنه نویسنده.
کتاب قبلی سیر پیشرفت خیلی بهتر داشت، هی موضوع جذاب می‌گذاشت جلوت و توی چند فصل آینده شرح می‌داد و همینطور تا آخر و مشکلات دیگه‌ای که توی نقد اون کتاب گفتم رو کامل می‌پوشوند.
و وای، راتفوس چقدر از کلمه nonchalant و مشتقاتش استفاده می‌کنه، دیوانه شدم -_- نان‌شلانت و کوفت و زهر مار. یه سری عبارت و اینهای دیگه هم هستن که به شدت زیاد استفاده میشن و واقعاً روی اعصابم بودن. اصلاً نشونه خوبی توی نویسندگی نیست به نظرم اونم وقتی جمله‌بندی‌هات ابدا سنگین یا کهنه یا اپیک نیست 😬
البته تلاش کرده جملاتش آهنگین باشه یه سری جاها و بد هم نیست اما اونقدر هم مهم نیست. مثلاً مقایسه کنید با آهنگ جملات تالکین که شاید به راحتی(؟) این نباشه آهنگش مثلاً اما اونجا قشنگ انگار به نفر روی صندلی نشسته و یه کتاب بزرگ دستش هست و داره برات داستان می‌خونه، برخلاف اینجا که کووت مثلاً داره همین کار رو می‌کنه حدوداً.
واقعاً می‌خواستم که این مجموعه رو دوست داشته باشم و با کلی ذوق و شوق شروع کردم اما نشد :/ به‌خصوص حدود یک سوم آخر جلد ۲ رو به زور جلو بردم. جلد سوم وقتی بیاد اگه جلد آخر باشه می‌خونمش که تمومش کرده باشم، اما اگه بخواد کشش بده بعیده سراغش برم 😬
Content Warnings
Moderate: Toxic friendship and Sexual content
Minor: Kidnapping, Violence, Rape, and Toxic relationship
madmadmaddymad's review against another edition
adventurous
challenging
reflective
medium-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? Plot
- Strong character development? It's complicated
- Loveable characters? Yes
- Diverse cast of characters? Yes
- Flaws of characters a main focus? It's complicated
5.0
I really enjoyed this book!
My favorite sequence is the time Kvothe spent with Felurian. (What can you expect? I’m faerie trash.) I did not enjoy the Ademre sequence - even though the women are badasses, I still found it somehow misogynistic. Maybe it’s because of Kvothe, and how he tainted the time he spent there by talking about how it’s not proper for women to fight, women where he comes from do not fight, and bemoaning that he was paired to spar with a little girl. I just found that that part of the book really dragged, and even though we spent a lot of time there, I didn’t get close to any of the women, and I didn’t get the feeling that Kvothe really respected any of the women? I was waiting for it to be over, and him to go back to the Maer. Even though I didn’t care much for the court politics and the Maer, I still felt like there was more life in that part of the story than the piece in the Ademre.
But aside from that portion of the book… this was such a captivating and excellent story. I still love the parts with Bast, the Chronicler, and Kvothe-the-tavernkeep the most. It feels so fresh to read a fantasy story this way - to have the days laid out this way, and the story told from the hero’s perspective while a perfect stranger and truly good friend listen in.
Bast is obviously still my favorite
I love a scary faerie man
My favorite sequence is the time Kvothe spent with Felurian. (What can you expect? I’m faerie trash.) I did not enjoy the Ademre sequence - even though the women are badasses, I still found it somehow misogynistic. Maybe it’s because of Kvothe, and how he tainted the time he spent there by talking about how it’s not proper for women to fight, women where he comes from do not fight, and bemoaning that he was paired to spar with a little girl. I just found that that part of the book really dragged, and even though we spent a lot of time there, I didn’t get close to any of the women, and I didn’t get the feeling that Kvothe really respected any of the women? I was waiting for it to be over, and him to go back to the Maer. Even though I didn’t care much for the court politics and the Maer, I still felt like there was more life in that part of the story than the piece in the Ademre.
But aside from that portion of the book… this was such a captivating and excellent story. I still love the parts with Bast, the Chronicler, and Kvothe-the-tavernkeep the most. It feels so fresh to read a fantasy story this way - to have the days laid out this way, and the story told from the hero’s perspective while a perfect stranger and truly good friend listen in.
Bast is obviously still my favorite
I love a scary faerie man
Content Warnings
Graphic: Death, Grief, Murder, and Violence
Moderate: Sexual violence, Rape, and Racism
Minor: Sexual content
eileencs27's review against another edition
adventurous
hopeful
mysterious
fast-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? Yes
- Diverse cast of characters? Yes
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
5.0
Content Warnings
Moderate: Murder, Violence, and Blood
Minor: Physical abuse and Rape
meg0_o's review against another edition
adventurous
challenging
dark
emotional
funny
hopeful
mysterious
tense
slow-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? Character
- Loveable characters? Yes
- Diverse cast of characters? No
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
5.0
beautiful, gorgeous, lovely, perfect. no notes.
Content Warnings
Graphic: Murder, War, Sexual violence, Rape, Violence, Domestic abuse, and Gore
yyooh17's review against another edition
adventurous
dark
mysterious
relaxing
slow-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? Yes
3.5
I did not realise this book was so long… I agree with the other comments about how it would have been better split into clearer defined sections.
After nearly 2000 pages across book 1/2 combined it feels like we’re no closer to learning about Kvothe’s / the world’s current situation though. Is this really going to end with book 3 or will we need to wait 10+ years for a book 4 too……
I feel like this review has been ever so slightly negative so far but I genuinely do really like this book. The distance between key events (although this might bore a lot of people) is relaxing to read and it’s nice to see Kvothe grow up.
Some good things are FINALLY happening to him 💔
That being said, I wasn’t particularly fond of the sexual elements of this book, I don’t think it served much purpose beyond one scene towards the end.
I’m struggling to rate this book but I’m leaving it somewhere between a 3.5-4 for now.
Side note—> I’ve been trying to remember which book the fae section was from for years so I was very happy when I stumbled upon it during this reread.
After nearly 2000 pages across book 1/2 combined it feels like we’re no closer to learning about Kvothe’s / the world’s current situation though. Is this really going to end with book 3 or will we need to wait 10+ years for a book 4 too……
I feel like this review has been ever so slightly negative so far but I genuinely do really like this book. The distance between key events (although this might bore a lot of people) is relaxing to read and it’s nice to see Kvothe grow up.
That being said, I wasn’t particularly fond of the sexual elements of this book, I don’t think it served much purpose beyond one scene towards the end.
I’m struggling to rate this book but I’m leaving it somewhere between a 3.5-4 for now.
Side note—> I’ve been trying to remember which book the fae section was from for years so I was very happy when I stumbled upon it during this reread.
Content Warnings
Graphic: Violence
Minor: Physical abuse
music_maker's review against another edition
adventurous
challenging
dark
mysterious
- Plot- or character-driven? Character
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? Yes
- Diverse cast of characters? Yes
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
4.75
Content Warnings
Graphic: Violence
Moderate: Sexual content and Sexual assault
mariebrunelm's review against another edition
adventurous
challenging
dark
mysterious
reflective
slow-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? No
- Loveable characters? No
- Diverse cast of characters? No
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
3.75
Synopsis-free, spoiler-free review.
Can I admit that towards the end of this book I wondered what had happened in the first 90% to justify making it so long? I mean… I'm all for slow-paced books. I don't need action in my books, I can live on prose and vibes basically. And Rothfuss absolutely delivers both of these, which is why I reached the end of this book. But did I care for the main character along the 1100 pages of his adventures? Nope. Did I believe he had been dictating those 1100 pages in a day, as he is supposed to have done? Certainly not. The audiobook is over 42 HOURS, come on. 😂 Did the fact that the number of women went from 1 in book 1 to a handful in book 2 make it less cringy? I'm not entirely sure. Readers, I am confused. I don't know what to think except that this was *very* long. And while I still enjoy book 1 upon re-reading it, I don't feel like re-reading this one. One thing I'm happy about is having read the book that had been sitting on my TBR for the longest time (we're talking at least 6 years, probably more).
Can I admit that towards the end of this book I wondered what had happened in the first 90% to justify making it so long? I mean… I'm all for slow-paced books. I don't need action in my books, I can live on prose and vibes basically. And Rothfuss absolutely delivers both of these, which is why I reached the end of this book. But did I care for the main character along the 1100 pages of his adventures? Nope. Did I believe he had been dictating those 1100 pages in a day, as he is supposed to have done? Certainly not. The audiobook is over 42 HOURS, come on. 😂 Did the fact that the number of women went from 1 in book 1 to a handful in book 2 make it less cringy? I'm not entirely sure. Readers, I am confused. I don't know what to think except that this was *very* long. And while I still enjoy book 1 upon re-reading it, I don't feel like re-reading this one. One thing I'm happy about is having read the book that had been sitting on my TBR for the longest time (we're talking at least 6 years, probably more).
Content Warnings
Moderate: Sexism and Violence
proza's review against another edition
adventurous
mysterious
slow-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? No
- Loveable characters? It's complicated
- Diverse cast of characters? No
- Flaws of characters a main focus? No
3.75
Content Warnings
Graphic: Physical abuse, Rape, Sexism, Sexual assault, Adult/minor relationship, Child abuse, Mental illness, Bullying, Death of parent, Death, Grief, Misogyny, Murder, Sexual content, Sexual harassment, Sexual violence, and Violence
Moderate: Blood, Medical content, Panic attacks/disorders, Racial slurs, Racism, and Pregnancy
Minor: Alcohol, Fire/Fire injury, and War
nerdkitten's review against another edition
adventurous
challenging
emotional
inspiring
mysterious
medium-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? Character
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? Yes
- Diverse cast of characters? Yes
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
5.0
Content Warnings
Graphic: Adult/minor relationship, Blood, Violence, Xenophobia, Gore, Injury/Injury detail, Alcohol, Drug abuse, Classism, Sexual content, Fire/Fire injury, and Torture
Moderate: Mental illness, Medical content, Chronic illness, Cultural appropriation, Death, Kidnapping, Murder, Sexual assault, and Physical abuse
Minor: Pregnancy, Cursing, Excrement, Grief, Sexual violence, War, Infidelity, Misogyny, Rape, Sexism, Death of parent, Biphobia, and Racial slurs