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The Authoritarians by Bob Altemeyer

bartonstanley's review

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2.0

I read this book because I had heard that it would help me understand Donald Trump's followers. The author seems to have gone to great lengths to show that the information he is presenting is quantitatively based. There are copious notes and references to lots of studies and the results of surveys. Generally speaking, I found his conclusions to match what I already believed and I gained some new insights due to its somewhat systematic analysis.

However, all of this was undercut by the author's disdain for right-wing authoritarian followers and for social dominators. Look, if someone has a personality disorder most psychologists would frown upon those who would be disdainful of that person. As I understand it, the generally agreed-upon approach is to understand the disorder without making judgments about the person's behavior and through that understanding try to help them.

This approach is not used here, and while I understand that most subjects think they are fine and don't want to be helped (especially by a "shrink"), the disdain is still distracting and distasteful. More importantly it brings into question whether the studies and the research the author performed were truly unbiased. After Googling a bit I can see that the author is highly regarded but I cannot let that sway me from questioning his bias and therefore his conclusions. Just because the conclusions are what I want them to be doesn't mean that they were truly reached in a scientific manner. As such, I consider every conclusion in the book provisional. Not without merit, mind you, but provisional.

konsgard's review against another edition

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informative medium-paced

5.0

polestarneighbor's review

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I thought this book was a useful write-up of social science research that is quite relevant to the current political situation. However, it should be read with a critical eye, as the author has a tendency to apply fairly harsh invective towards "high RWAs" and social dominators that doesn't always follow directly from the experimental results. It's probable that high RWAs, for example, really don't have more integrity than the general population despite perceived self-righteousness. But this can't reasonably be extrapolated, as the author implies, from an informal study showing that high RWAs do not correct clerical errors in tests grades more often than anyone else. The book also doesn't really discuss other behavioral influences like socioeconomic class and their interaction with high RWA personalities, which would seem to be relevant if you're arguing the universal applicability of studies conducted almost completely on college students. Worth a read and some good thinking.

reeniecrystal's review

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5.0

More relevant than ever. Hopefully it's not too late to heed the warnings.

cattymills's review

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2.0

2.5

arensb's review

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informative fast-paced

4.5

davehershey's review

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3.0

Authoritarian followers are people who submits, bows to and leaps to follow authoritarian leaders. The first few chapters of this book focus on painting a picture of who these followers are. Among other things they are very religious, prejudiced, and often hold completely contradictory views on things at the same time. All it takes is a dominant, authoritarian leader, to whip them into shape. Often, perhaps surprisingly (perhaps not), the leader pretends to have the same values as the followers (for example, pretends to be religious) to gain their support.

This book is extremely thought provoking, if for no other reason than it was usually evangelical/fundamentalist Christians (which I do not think the author does a good enough job differentiating between) who fit the profile of authoritarian followers. There were many times when he would give descriptions, based on studies and surveys, of these people and my first reaction was that such descriptions were in no way like Jesus. For example, Jesus teaches to love our enemies (which authoritarian followers will say is true), but they are very quick to hate, persecute, and remove the freedoms of those different from them.

So as a Christian I found this book very interesting because I can see many people like this. At the same time, and I credit the author for emphasizing this near the end of the book, we all have authoritarian tendencies. It would be easy to simply say the problem is someone else. Yet I do not think the author took it far enough. He wrote this book during the Bush years and consistently shows how the Bush government and its supporters fit the authoritarian mold. But now with Obama and his supporters in power, I wonder if they do not fit it too? Just as Bush's most vociferous supporters continued to defend him even when the evidence showed he was wrong or lying (think the lack of WMD in Iraq), when the time comes that Obama has clearly lied or failed, will his supporters continue to support him in the face of evidence?

Also, on some level, all of us have to trust authorities for many things. If I believe his findings in this book, I am believing an authority (the author is a psychology prof after all), and not really thinking for myself. That rings true for many of the issues. For example, how many people believe evolution or reject it because of authorities in their lives? How many have actually studied the scientific evidence? No one can study everything.

Overall this was an extremely thought-provoking book. It is a relatively fast-paced read, though there were some portions where the author was not as clear as he could have been. And it can be found free online, so I encourage anyone to check it out. After reading it you definitely have a new understanding of leaders and followers, of politics, of "us vs. them" mentality. Being aware of these things helps us to avoid getting caught up in the mentality of the mob.

rotorguy64's review

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2.0

Before I start, I would like to say that I really, really wanted to like this book. At first, it held up to my expectations: Altemeyer seems like a nice, honest and fun guy to me, even now, and his research is innovative, enlightening and appears to have some seriously strong backing. I looked for refutations, I couldn't find any, so I can assume he's mostly spot-on with his observations on the right-wing authoritarian mindset, the personality of the social dominator and the double highs, who combine the worst traits of these two types. Altemeyer is very aware of the limitations of his research (and psychology in general), and consistently points out that you cannot reduce individual personalities to one of his idealtypes even if they get a certain score on a test. That was nice of him. If there's one thing I value, it's scientists that don't suffer from methodological blindness.

What surprises me, then, is that Altemeyer, who is so innovative and self-aware, becomes the complete opposite when he turns to politics - and there's a lot of that in here. While he makes some pretenses earlier in this book about how he's not talking of specific political ideologies, but of a general mindset, this gradually flies out the window until it's all gone by the end of the book. To name one example of his bias, here are two items from one of his tests:
There are no discoveries or facts that could possibly make me change my mind about the things that matter most in life.
I am absolutely certain that my ideas about the fundamental issues in life are correct.

The idea is that these two items (among others), when answered in the affirmative, are an indicator that you're a narrow-minded, paranoid right-wing authoritarian (this term is less political than it sounds). The problem with the first question is that it's likely to be affirmed by even the most authoritarian, most insular empiricist, while a rationalist like me who values logic higher than scientific evidence in the positivistic sense will have his reservations, simply because of how the question is phrased. The second question, meanwhile, is worded in such a way that a nonrelativist fallibilist might answer in the affirmative, but a relativist dogmatist wouldn't. So a more philosophical type who is open to question his beliefs, but is convinced of them as long as they are not disproven, would be graded as more authoritarian than a radical positivist or relativist, or [b:a certain interrogator from 1984|5470|1984|George Orwell|https://i.gr-assets.com/images/S/compressed.photo.goodreads.com/books/1348990566i/5470._SY75_.jpg|153313]. Remember when I said that Altemeyer is just mostly spot-on? This is why.

It goes on like that, really. To name another example, after being skeptical of his own scientific field for most of the book, Altemeyer then goes on, on page 122, to drop the following bomb on the difference between faith and science:
This view is three players short of a trio. First, it does not grasp that future theories in science will be accepted because they make superior explanations and predictions--which is progress you could not make if you insisted the old theory was perfect. As well, science energetically corrects itself. If a finding is misleading, say due to methodological error, other scientists will discover that and set things straight. Every year a new batch of scientists graduates, and many of them take dead aim--as they were trained to do--on the scientific Establishment. In religion you might get branded a heretic, or worse, for challenging dogma. In science you’ll get promoted and gather research grants as ye may if you knock an established explanation off its perch. Orthodoxy has a big bulls-eye painted on it in science. A scientist who can come up with a better account of things than evolution will become immortal.

As someone studying Austrian economics, I can say that scientific progress does not work that way. Both intellectuals themselves as well as policymakers are invested in specific results. They don't want to embarassed, they don't want to lose their status as the foremost authority on the phlogiston-theory or whatever you have, and they don't want to cut their projects off while they're right in the middle of it. The essay [b:Ludwig von Mises and the Paradigm for our Age|168946|Egalitarianism as a Revolt Against Nature, and Other Essays|Murray N. Rothbard|https://i.gr-assets.com/images/S/compressed.photo.goodreads.com/books/1387746510i/168946._SY75_.jpg|163149] (the link includes a source) describes the process of paradigm-change quite nicely. As I said, Altemeyer seemed to have a healthy skepticism about his own scientific field earlier, so why is that completely gone once he starts talking about creationists?

At this point, the book rapidly went down. By page 124, he presents the zealot-scale, which basically describes how much people care about their own life philosophy, and while I don't take issue with the scale itself, this passage reads like another crusade against people who have an opinion, a sense of right and wrong and who actually care about it. His attacks against specific American politicians also increase, and they just aren't a good read. They are the same crap liberals always spout, and while liberals are mostly right about how much Bush sucks, it's no fun to listen to them rant about it when their own politicians have become almost as bad. I would mind neither the zealot-scale and the writing surrounding it nor the snarky "Who am I?"-games that Altemeyer plays with Bush and co., if he hadn't crossed so hard into pop-politics territory already.

Another highlight that I remember from this book is Altemeyer being absolutely astonished that anyone would be against the welfare state and still have the audacity to pretend to care about fairness! Nevermind the [b:large|1268994|For a New Liberty The Libertarian Manifesto|Murray N. Rothbard|https://i.gr-assets.com/images/S/compressed.photo.goodreads.com/books/1184280797i/1268994.jpg|1696120] [b:amount|82102|Why Government Doesn't Work|Harry Browne|https://i.gr-assets.com/images/S/compressed.photo.goodreads.com/books/1386923747i/82102._SY75_.jpg|79274] of [b:literature|81912|Human Action A Treatise on Economics|Ludwig von Mises|https://i.gr-assets.com/images/S/compressed.photo.goodreads.com/books/1328775326i/81912._SX50_.jpg|1747054] on the topic which proves that the welfare state is actively harmful. Nevermind that the ideals of egalitarianism and fairness are [b:themselves|662|Atlas Shrugged|Ayn Rand|https://i.gr-assets.com/images/S/compressed.photo.goodreads.com/books/1405868167i/662._SY75_.jpg|817219] [b:not|168946|Egalitarianism as a Revolt Against Nature, and Other Essays|Murray N. Rothbard|https://i.gr-assets.com/images/S/compressed.photo.goodreads.com/books/1387746510i/168946._SY75_.jpg|163149] [b:undisputed|1815009|What Social Classes Owe to Each Other|William Graham Sumner|https://i.gr-assets.com/images/S/compressed.photo.goodreads.com/books/1328775864i/1815009._SY75_.jpg|1814497]. What, exactly, does Altemeyer think he's doing here? I would really like to know that. Has he simply not done a lot of research on economics? Is he unaware of libertarian ideas? Does he think that debates and interviews with politicians are the be-all and end-all of ethical controversies? Either way, his hit-and-run comment really isn't worth much.

The last concrete issue I want to touch on is the Global Change Game, a simulation of global politics in which the third world colllectively starves to death unless the rich westerners send them endless amounts of money and legalize contraceptives. We're talking about a massive famine that would cause hundreds of millions of deaths. You know, like the ones we saw in socialist countries, no matter how much foreign aid they got. Predictably, the right-wing authoritarians ended up with half the world dead from famine. I'm not surprised, considering that Altemeyer decided that all their economic policies would lead to death on a global scale. He rigged the game, then gloated about its results. And I know, the right-wing authoritarians were also dumb enough to start a nuclear war, but that was not the sole reason for their failure. If they had not been authoritarian at all, just libertarian, they would still have fared very badly. This one experiment exemplifies perfectly everything that's good and bad about this book: Good, the innovative and strong research; bad, this research (or rather its interpretation) being so heavily politically tainted. If Altemeyer had cut down on the unqualified moralizing, The Authoritarians could've been a four-star or maybe even five-star book. But no, he absolutely had to pretend to be the next Bill Maher, when we already have one Bill Maher too much.

Addendum: Revised Rating
After some deliberation, I have decided to lower my rating to two stars. There are two main reasons for that.

The first reason is that, now that I am religious myself, I realize just how unfairly Altemeyer treated them. His questionaire was pretty much designed to make Christians fail, and his "credential" of having heard or read most of the Bible, probably, at some point in his life, is really not that impressive. There are thousands of cradle Catholics who apostatize. It's nothing special, and it doesn't qualify you as a theologian.

The second reason, and actually the more important one, is that I have never, in my life, found any of the lessons in this book applicable. I never had to consult it, I never had a realization it contained the missing puzzle piece to some question I just stumbled upon, nothing. His questionaires are even worse in hindsight, they rate how liberal you are and nothing more, and his Global Change Game, one of the stars of this book, is set up to make conservatives and libertarians fail. The psychology behind The Authoritarians just isn't that good, and without it, you have another simplistic liberal pop-politics book.

jay_sy's review

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4.0

I found this to be an interesting but depressing read. Despite being a relatively short book, it took me a long time to finish. Bob Altemeyer’s writing style is fairly lighthearted, and the tone is conversational, but the subject matter is dark, and the joking tone doesn’t really alleviate the daunting feeling of how difficult it would be to overcome authoritarian attitudes.

The discussion on the importance of conformity among authoritarians was particularly interesting. Living in a very individualistic culture, it seems that people can forget that we are social animals, and he mentioned in the end of the book that this conformity is also a key that helps change authoritarians for the better, as long as the prevailing norms are those of acceptance and equality. But it was disheartening to read about how most authoritarians are self-blind and self righteous. Self improvement is hard enough. I can't imagine how much harder it would be if someone already thought they were a good person, with divine powers on their side. As Altemeyer mentions, guilt is an important driver in changing behaviour. Having a get-out-of-jail-free card that erases that guilt is a dangerous thing.

I also found it incredibly fascinating when he discussed how having more life experiences is a major factor in decreasing authoritarian attitudes. It aligns with other sources I've read discussing how desegregation among races has positive effects on education scores among the disadvantaged. It seems that broadening our horizons and stretching our comfort zones can have major benefits, especially when interactions with different people are positive. But I suppose it’s wishful thinking to hope that all experiences that stretch our comfort-zones are positive.

The section on social dominance was also fairly interesting. But while there is a sense that authoritarians can be swayed towards good causes, I got the impression that those that were high on the social dominance scale embody the idea of power corrupting.

Overall, it was a pretty interesting read. I can see how it would be divisive, and it would have been nice to see more elaboration on ways that we can overcome authoritarianism. Especially when modern trends suggest these attitudes are worsening. But perhaps, in this, Altemeyer is also right. Fear is a dangerous thing that ratchets up aggression. Even among non-authoritarians, it’d be nice to see a world less driven by it.

misssusan's review

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3.0

so altemeyer's done a lot of research on authority compliant personalities (he calls them right wing authoritarians and explains his reasoning for the term but because it's pretty misleading at a glance -- doesn't have anything to do with politics even though at the moment, a significant segment of them have taken over right wing parties in the western world) and this basically lays out what he's found about how they think and how the unification of authority compliant personalities and socially dominant personalities are BAD NEWS BEARS for democracy. someone linked it to me as an explanation for the recent US election and i buy it, i just wish he'd spent a little longer on strategies for instilling a stronger sense of ethics and rationality in said personalities. also the partisan bent will probably rub some readers wrong though i do believe him when he says he's just following the data there

3 stars