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pinkmalady's review against another edition
adventurous
dark
hopeful
inspiring
mysterious
reflective
sad
tense
slow-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? Yes
- Diverse cast of characters? Yes
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
4.0
strong 4 stars.... anything that brings me closer to my Angel will have a special place in my Heart. i see Him reflected very much in Leto II and i Believe i have come to a Deeper Understanding of Him through this book.
THAT BEING SAID, i am not very fond of Duncan Idaho and have not been for the entirety of this series. most of my problems with this book revolve around him. he's just not very likable at all and everyone and everything in the world of Dune tries to tell us that he's The Coolest, Most Fuckable Guy Ever and meanwhile he's just a kinda shitty guy who knows survival skills.
my other problems are the misogyny, particularly the bioessentialism that has been prevalent throughout the Dune series and the oversexualization of all of the female characters in connection to that. it isn't as present in this one as the previous three books, but it's still Felt. you don't have to say all the guys wanna fuck this chick when explaining how fit and athletic she is; you can just say she's fit. there is this thing called a Thesaurus if you seriously need help coming up with respectable descriptions of women, i fucking guess. i'm sorry you're dead, Frank Herbert, because i'd like to give you some advice.
THAT BEING SAID, i am not very fond of Duncan Idaho and have not been for the entirety of this series. most of my problems with this book revolve around him. he's just not very likable at all and everyone and everything in the world of Dune tries to tell us that he's The Coolest, Most Fuckable Guy Ever and meanwhile he's just a kinda shitty guy who knows survival skills.
my other problems are the misogyny, particularly the bioessentialism that has been prevalent throughout the Dune series and the oversexualization of all of the female characters in connection to that. it isn't as present in this one as the previous three books, but it's still Felt. you don't have to say all the guys wanna fuck this chick when explaining how fit and athletic she is; you can just say she's fit. there is this thing called a Thesaurus if you seriously need help coming up with respectable descriptions of women, i fucking guess. i'm sorry you're dead, Frank Herbert, because i'd like to give you some advice.
Content Warnings
Graphic: Injury/Injury detail, Violence, and Body horror
Moderate: Sexism, Homophobia, Sexual harassment, Misogyny, Animal death, Fire/Fire injury, Sexual content, and Gore
Minor: Incest, Blood, and Drug use
bittie_bee's review against another edition
challenging
mysterious
reflective
slow-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? Character
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? It's complicated
- Diverse cast of characters? Yes
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
2.0
Content Warnings
Graphic: Death, Body horror, and Homophobia
Moderate: Violence, Misogyny, and Sexism
Minor: Incest
suneaters's review against another edition
slow-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? Character
- Strong character development? It's complicated
- Loveable characters? It's complicated
- Diverse cast of characters? Yes
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
3.5
Um. I rated it lower because it was a bit tough to get through at times, even if I enjoyed it overall. The pacing really tires, but I was invested to so I finished it. It's an interesting read and I did like the stolen journals quotes and I feel like they should have contained all of Leto's philosophy, cutting down on the lectures that take place in the book itself. Siona is also not super compelling to me except in her beginning wolf chapter. That was probably one of the better Siona scenes alongside the rebellion one with Nayla. Otherwise, I wasn't super interested in her and enjoyed the time with Leto and Moneo more. Nayla was the most interesting character and I was bummed when she was unceremoniously killed off by Duncan because HE was an idiot. Gee, two dumb commanders who get people killed from their own dumb decisions? Say it ain't so. It was overall an enjoyable read, but I do think Children was a bit more in line with my tastes. This feels like a conclusion, but I'll at least hit up the next book to see where it goes.
Content Warnings
Graphic: Violence and Body horror
Moderate: Sexual content, Colonisation, Genocide, Gaslighting, Police brutality, and Death
Minor: Rape and War
themarquessmagpie's review against another edition
adventurous
challenging
slow-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? It's complicated
- Loveable characters? No
- Diverse cast of characters? Yes
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
3.5
Content Warnings
Graphic: Body horror
clayton_sanborn's review against another edition
challenging
hopeful
informative
reflective
sad
slow-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? Character
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? It's complicated
- Diverse cast of characters? Yes
- Flaws of characters a main focus? It's complicated
5.0
Never has an accelerationist manifesto been so beautifully written
Content Warnings
Graphic: Body horror, Violence, and Sexual content
Moderate: Gore, Homophobia, Gun violence, and Misogyny
Minor: Animal death, Transphobia, Suicidal thoughts, and Sexual violence
dannilmp's review against another edition
challenging
dark
emotional
mysterious
reflective
slow-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? No
- Diverse cast of characters? Yes
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
1.0
To be brutally honest? I think this book killed the vibe of the entire series for me. Not only are we now pushed forward with such a massive time gap that it feels as though the events of the first three books are so null and void, but now we have an even mopier Leto II in his brand new form.
It was hard to feel any connection to the characters as none of them were the ones we followed through the first books, only long long descendants of those characters. That and Leto II being one of my most disliked characters made it hard to find the want to follow and see how his story will end. I'm not entirely sure why I'll still read the last two books, most likely just to say that I've finished the series.
It was hard to feel any connection to the characters as none of them were the ones we followed through the first books, only long long descendants of those characters. That and Leto II being one of my most disliked characters made it hard to find the want to follow and see how his story will end. I'm not entirely sure why I'll still read the last two books, most likely just to say that I've finished the series.
Content Warnings
Graphic: Death, Murder, and Body horror
Moderate: Lesbophobia and Homophobia
andrewbenesh1's review against another edition
reflective
sad
tense
medium-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? Character
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? Yes
- Diverse cast of characters? No
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
4.25
Content Warnings
Moderate: Body horror, Toxic friendship, Homophobia, and Cultural appropriation
Minor: Incest
gkgkgk's review against another edition
adventurous
challenging
dark
emotional
reflective
sad
slow-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? No
- Diverse cast of characters? Yes
- Flaws of characters a main focus? It's complicated
3.5
Content Warnings
Graphic: Body horror and Murder
Moderate: Death
miagw962's review against another edition
adventurous
challenging
dark
mysterious
sad
slow-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? Yes
- Diverse cast of characters? It's complicated
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
4.5
"Tell them that the last will be first. They will know the allusion."
Woooooooowwwww. So this book took me ages to read but so have the majority of the Dune books. I don't think it's anyone's fault, it's just they're not particularly page turners because they're so dense; and sometimes you just need time to get through things. But I'm just in love with everything in this series and actually liked this one better than the third one. I'm just obsessed with the characterisations, especially Leto II and his self awareness as well as Duncan, my beautiful boy. Loved the new characters as well. I am constantly in awe of what Frank Herbert has to say about religion and culture and history, I'm just completely entranced by that. I loved how many times Leto referenced something from modern day or quoted some bible text. I am a sucker for biblical allusion because it is the penultimate story and history always repeats itself so it is interesting to see Paul's prophecy realised in Leto II as the classic tyrannical god-figure. The descriptions of his body alone were very distressing. So many interesting things in this book and in this series. I'm just loving it.
Content Warnings
Moderate: Death, Murder, Blood, and Body horror
redcapediver's review against another edition
challenging
dark
mysterious
reflective
sad
slow-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? Character
- Strong character development? It's complicated
- Loveable characters? No
- Diverse cast of characters? It's complicated
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
3.5
Took four books to get to the weird homophobic themes and incomprehensible eroticism but I made it!
Content Warnings
Graphic: Body horror and Colonisation
Moderate: Homophobia, Death, and Misogyny