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Graphic: Death, Sexism, Slavery, Violence, Injury/Injury detail
Moderate: Grief
Minor: Incest, Rape, Sexual assault, Sexual violence, Vomit, Medical content, Pregnancy, Alcohol
Graphic: Violence, Medical content, War, Injury/Injury detail, Pandemic/Epidemic
Moderate: Body shaming, Bullying, Confinement, Death, Domestic abuse, Emotional abuse, Homophobia, Infidelity, Mental illness, Misogyny, Physical abuse, Racism, Rape, Self harm, Sexism, Sexual content, Sexual violence, Slavery, Suicidal thoughts, Toxic relationship, Blood, Kidnapping, Grief, Death of parent, Murder, Pregnancy, Outing, Classism
Minor: Animal death, Child abuse, Child death, Gore, Pedophilia, Sexual assault, Xenophobia, Cannibalism, Fire/Fire injury, Gaslighting, Abandonment, Alcohol, Sexual harassment
Das Ende war aber echt traurig und es hätte vermieden werden können 😩😢
Ich muss allerdings sagen, dass der schöne Schreibstil von Madeline Miller in der deutschen Übersetzung leider oft nicht so gut rüberkommt, manchmal schon, aber oft leider nicht 🙁
Aber trotzdem ein super Buch und ich werde es bestimmt nochmal lesen 😄
Graphic: Animal death, Death, Violence, War, Pandemic/Epidemic
Moderate: Child death, Misogyny, Rape, Slavery, Death of parent, Alcohol
Graphic: Slavery, Blood, Medical content, War
Moderate: Rape, Slavery, Grief, Murder, Alcohol
Graphic: Alcoholism, Animal cruelty, Animal death, Child abuse, Child death, Death, Gore, Misogyny, Pedophilia, Rape, Sexism, Sexual assault, Sexual violence, Slavery, Violence, Blood, Grief, Murder, Alcohol, Sexual harassment
Graphic: Ableism, Confinement, Cursing, Death, Gore, Rape, Sexual assault, Slavery, Blood, Pregnancy, Abandonment, Alcohol, Classism
Moderate: Adult/minor relationship, Animal death
Graphic: Child death, Death, Genocide, Incest, Infidelity, Physical abuse, Rape, Self harm, Sexual assault, Sexual content, Sexual violence, Torture, Toxic relationship, Violence, Blood, Kidnapping, Suicide attempt, Murder, Pregnancy, Outing, Sexual harassment, War, Injury/Injury detail
Moderate: Bullying, Child abuse, Death, Domestic abuse, Emotional abuse, Genocide, Gore, Hate crime, Homophobia, Blood, Alcohol
The book was so well written and i devoured it quickly. The voice and writing style takes after the way old myths are written so it’s a bit more formal. The love story was beautiful and i still cried even knowing what the end held. Beautiful story
Graphic: Child abuse, Child death, Death, Gore, Homophobia, Misogyny, Rape, Self harm, Sexual assault, Sexual content, Slavery, Suicidal thoughts, Blood, Medical content, Medical trauma, Murder, War, Classism
Minor: Adult/minor relationship, Animal death, Alcohol
I think the book is fun but not super deep. Knowing roughly how the story goes before I delved into the book, leaves me wondering if I can even mention some parts of it without it being spoilers - what is the common knowledge here? Is it ok to mention which characters die when? I mean, this is ancient history ... so all the characters are dead by now (except maybe the gods).
This telling is in the first person, from the point of view of Patroclus who is the dearest love of Achilles.
--pedant mode--
I feel like it's spelled incorrectly, surely that's a "k"? Wiki says conventionally it's Patroclus but from Pátroklos ... wow there's argument about how that ought to be pronounced so that is a rabbit hole - but now I feel mollified.. it isn't just me being finicky. OK, fine, I'm being finicky. While I'm finicking, I kept raising an eyebrow when the author refers to heroes being painted onto vases. My high school classics led me to believe that black figure vases came way after the Trojan War, and red figure vases even later than that, so references to those forms seems anachronistic.
--end pedant mode--
The reason the two men like each other seems completely arbitrary because the author doesn't build that much. Patroclus is a devoted lover and sees his god-boyfriend through rosy tinted glasses. I find it really amusing that some people find this sweet, and others are nauseated by his witless swooning.
As far as this narration of the audiobook is concerned, I find it really strange that the narrator doesn't alter his affect for voicing young people. I was about 5 minutes into a conversation before I was reminded that this was a conversation between young children rather than adults. I got the same sort of feeling when the character of Pyrrhus is introduced as a pubescent youth. I honestly think there should be some sort of primer for Audiobook narrators where they learn how words like wretched are said.
OK, I'm going there. This is the first book I have ever read in the first person where the narrator dies and keeps telling the story. At first I wondered what the heck was happening because he was clearly deceased and yet, still talking. After a while it became clearer that according to the Greek practices around the passing of the dead to the underworld, he had moved on out of his body, but was still kicking around watching the proceedings. OK fine.. I'll let you have it. It still felt more clumsy than it ought to have.
It was an easy read and coming to the end of it, the themes of social change, and how things are perceived by future generations, are aired more explicitly. The story is true to the Greek trope of sage council that is ignored. This account is subverting the idea that glory is something that one earns by war and murder, and is focused on the idea that a person can be remembered for more than their body-count. All in all, I don't think the book is elegant, but it is interesting.
Graphic: Animal cruelty, Animal death, Death, Gore, Misogyny, Physical abuse, Rape, Self harm, Sexism, Sexual assault, Sexual content, Sexual violence, Slavery, Suicidal thoughts, Violence, Blood, Medical content, Kidnapping, Grief, Murder, Alcohol, War, Injury/Injury detail
Moderate: Vomit, Pregnancy
Graphic: Death, Violence, Blood, Grief, War, Injury/Injury detail
Moderate: Child death, Homophobia, Rape, Sexual content, Sexual violence, Slavery, Suicidal thoughts, Outing
Minor: Animal death, Alcohol