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3.08 AVERAGE
3.08 AVERAGE
adventurous
dark
funny
sad
Plot or Character Driven:
Character
Strong character development:
No
Loveable characters:
No
Flaws of characters a main focus:
No
wtf did i just read? i was so not ready for this 'intellectual porn.' i will take my philosophy lessons from somewhere else, thank you very much.
adventurous
dark
slow-paced
Plot or Character Driven:
A mix
Strong character development:
No
Loveable characters:
No
Diverse cast of characters:
No
Flaws of characters a main focus:
Complicated
The formatting of this particular version was just awful.
But what I found the most annoying and unenjoyable was the repetition. Each villain would blame their villainy on some form of nature. No one ever took personal responsibility. And there were just so many villains that after a while, despite what they did, they all just blended together.
I liked Justine though. She stayed true to her convictions, even though she had so much doubt and reason not to.
But what I found the most annoying and unenjoyable was the repetition. Each villain would blame their villainy on some form of nature. No one ever took personal responsibility. And there were just so many villains that after a while, despite what they did, they all just blended together.
I liked Justine though. She stayed true to her convictions, even though she had so much doubt and reason not to.
Justine is an essay on the merits of nihilism.
“A God predicates a creation, that is to say, an instant when there was nothing, or an instant when all was in chaos. If one or the other of these states was evil, why did your God allow it to subsist? Was it good ? Then why did he change it ? But if all is now good at last, your God has nothing left to do; well, if he is useless, how can he be powerful? And if he is not powerful, how can he be God?”
I loved the language, the back and forth between Justine and those who sought to corrupt her. I found the arguments insightful and fascinating.
The story did become a bit repetitive but given its relatively short to begin with, this repetitiveness wasn’t to burdensome. Much has been made about the depravity of the content and while it’s full of dark themes and depictions of sex and violence, it is completely in keeping with the philosophical context of the essay.
Given this book was written in 17th century French, the quality of the translation really matters. There are some really dreadful versions available.
“A God predicates a creation, that is to say, an instant when there was nothing, or an instant when all was in chaos. If one or the other of these states was evil, why did your God allow it to subsist? Was it good ? Then why did he change it ? But if all is now good at last, your God has nothing left to do; well, if he is useless, how can he be powerful? And if he is not powerful, how can he be God?”
I loved the language, the back and forth between Justine and those who sought to corrupt her. I found the arguments insightful and fascinating.
The story did become a bit repetitive but given its relatively short to begin with, this repetitiveness wasn’t to burdensome. Much has been made about the depravity of the content and while it’s full of dark themes and depictions of sex and violence, it is completely in keeping with the philosophical context of the essay.
Given this book was written in 17th century French, the quality of the translation really matters. There are some really dreadful versions available.
An unceasingly cruel novel. Sade demonstrates a satiric contempt for the sentimental writing of other 18th century authors.
adventurous
challenging
dark
emotional
mysterious
reflective
tense
fast-paced
Plot or Character Driven:
A mix
Strong character development:
Complicated
Loveable characters:
Yes
Diverse cast of characters:
N/A
Flaws of characters a main focus:
Yes
dark
emotional
reflective
sad
tense
medium-paced
Plot or Character Driven:
Character
Strong character development:
Yes
Loveable characters:
Complicated
Diverse cast of characters:
Complicated
Flaws of characters a main focus:
Yes
very repetitive, to its detriment. Philosophical insights we reiterated too much! I don’t think it needed to be a novel, this could have worked (maybe) as a short story?
De Sad objektivno ne pise bas dobro, nije neki majstor u vodjenju niti price i ne svidja mi se kako je zaokruzio sve, ali brate ja ka' ja, ako su pomijesane sadisticke gadarije i katolicki momenti naravno da cu da siznem.
Sve pocxinje sa dvije sestra, Julija koja ima 16 godina i Justina koja ima 12, umru im roditelji, Juliji zlo iz ociju viri i odma ode da se prostituise i jos veli kako je jedva docekala, i tako koristeci svoje tijelo kao sredstvo uspije da dodje do moci i situira se, uda se bogato itd itd sto veli lana del rej she fucked her way up to the top.
Medjutim JUSTINA nasa lutkica dobrica, ona je dobra hriscanka katolkinja i slijepo vjeruje svim strancima i ocekuje da ce svi da imaju milosti i pomognu joj, tako ide od jednog stranca do drugog i automaCki svakome vjeruje a oni je automaCki zajebu, bukvalno kod koga god dodje i kaze "ejj umrli su mi roditelji, imam 12 godina i 0 eura :((" oni je siluju i zgaze i destregaju je totalno?? A ona nikad ne nauci da ce ako ocekuje da svi prate isusove rijeci i pomazu svima da ce samo da bude jebana i neplacena i da joj niko nikad nece pomoc jer zivimo u drustvu,,,,,
Uglavnom, sxta mi se basx svidjelo JE TO sto kao,,,, justinin lik ostaje statican, ona jeste izmucena, ali opet ostaje pobozna i kaze da je dobro sto toliko pati, zato sto je isus jos vise patio za njene grijehove,,,takodje mi je zanimljivo sto bi bilo logicno da je izgubila povjerenje u crkvu i vjeru s obzirom na to da su je bukv zarobili da bude sex slave u manastir?????? Ali ne, ne samo da nije izgubila povjerenje u vjeru nego nije izgubila povjerenje u crkvu brate, kakva likusa.
I na kraju sto mi je bilo presmijesno, toliko nekako naivno, podsjetilo me je na onu knjigu Zlatni magarac zaboravih kako se zove autor ugl neki stari Grk, toliko je smijesno i naivno bilo, Justina poslije 15 godina mucenja i silovanja svaki bozji dan nadje sestru svoju Juliju i kao nasla je svoj mir i spokoj I ONDA JE BUKV UBIJE GROM XKSKSKSK i markiz de sad bude kao pa dobro :// justinin zivot je svakako muka ziva, i onda poslije dvije stranice (ubio je grom tri stranice pred kraj) bude kao E JUSTINA JE IPAK OKEJ ali ono, slusxajte, neka se ona toliko mucxila jer je bila dobra katolkinja krsxcanka jer nju ceka RAJ, JELISEJSKA POLJA JEJJJJ ali realno ja mislim da je to ironicno???? Bukv nas przi iz najjace, zato sto on kao libertinista sigurno nije vjerovao u boga i raj i pakao, i bas zbog toga libertinisti cuda cine i siluju i lopuzaju i sve sto im padne na pamet jer vjeruju da ih sva ta zlodjela nece stici ni u ovom ni onom svijetu. Tako da, zakljucak: justina je budala sto je mislila da ce joj svi pomoc jer svi ustv vole da se izivljavaju, i dzaba se ona trudila da bude dobar vjernik kad zapravo raj ne postoji nego to joj je sto joj je za ovaj zivot ://
Sve pocxinje sa dvije sestra, Julija koja ima 16 godina i Justina koja ima 12, umru im roditelji, Juliji zlo iz ociju viri i odma ode da se prostituise i jos veli kako je jedva docekala, i tako koristeci svoje tijelo kao sredstvo uspije da dodje do moci i situira se, uda se bogato itd itd sto veli lana del rej she fucked her way up to the top.
Medjutim JUSTINA nasa lutkica dobrica, ona je dobra hriscanka katolkinja i slijepo vjeruje svim strancima i ocekuje da ce svi da imaju milosti i pomognu joj, tako ide od jednog stranca do drugog i automaCki svakome vjeruje a oni je automaCki zajebu, bukvalno kod koga god dodje i kaze "ejj umrli su mi roditelji, imam 12 godina i 0 eura :((" oni je siluju i zgaze i destregaju je totalno?? A ona nikad ne nauci da ce ako ocekuje da svi prate isusove rijeci i pomazu svima da ce samo da bude jebana i neplacena i da joj niko nikad nece pomoc jer zivimo u drustvu,,,,,
Uglavnom, sxta mi se basx svidjelo JE TO sto kao,,,, justinin lik ostaje statican, ona jeste izmucena, ali opet ostaje pobozna i kaze da je dobro sto toliko pati, zato sto je isus jos vise patio za njene grijehove,,,takodje mi je zanimljivo sto bi bilo logicno da je izgubila povjerenje u crkvu i vjeru s obzirom na to da su je bukv zarobili da bude sex slave u manastir?????? Ali ne, ne samo da nije izgubila povjerenje u vjeru nego nije izgubila povjerenje u crkvu brate, kakva likusa.
I na kraju sto mi je bilo presmijesno, toliko nekako naivno, podsjetilo me je na onu knjigu Zlatni magarac zaboravih kako se zove autor ugl neki stari Grk, toliko je smijesno i naivno bilo, Justina poslije 15 godina mucenja i silovanja svaki bozji dan nadje sestru svoju Juliju i kao nasla je svoj mir i spokoj I ONDA JE BUKV UBIJE GROM XKSKSKSK i markiz de sad bude kao pa dobro :// justinin zivot je svakako muka ziva, i onda poslije dvije stranice (ubio je grom tri stranice pred kraj) bude kao E JUSTINA JE IPAK OKEJ ali ono, slusxajte, neka se ona toliko mucxila jer je bila dobra katolkinja krsxcanka jer nju ceka RAJ, JELISEJSKA POLJA JEJJJJ ali realno ja mislim da je to ironicno???? Bukv nas przi iz najjace, zato sto on kao libertinista sigurno nije vjerovao u boga i raj i pakao, i bas zbog toga libertinisti cuda cine i siluju i lopuzaju i sve sto im padne na pamet jer vjeruju da ih sva ta zlodjela nece stici ni u ovom ni onom svijetu. Tako da, zakljucak: justina je budala sto je mislila da ce joj svi pomoc jer svi ustv vole da se izivljavaju, i dzaba se ona trudila da bude dobar vjernik kad zapravo raj ne postoji nego to joj je sto joj je za ovaj zivot ://