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Babel, or the Necessity of Violence: An Arcane History of the Oxford Translators' Revolution by R.F. Kuang

45 reviews

yajairat's review against another edition

dark emotional informative tense slow-paced

• Plot- or character-driven? A mix
• Strong character development? It's complicated
• Loveable characters? It's complicated
• Diverse cast of characters? Yes

4.0

Had a very slow start, but picked up towards the middle and then just flew by at the end. I expected a grim story, but I didn't think it was going to be THIS sad. It touches on pretty much every horror and flaw in British society during imperialism. It was a tough read sometimes with the constant racism, sexism, abuse, etc., but it's meant to make you feel uncomfortable. Really really enjoyed the period where the characters were on strike, it gave us a more in-depth look at issues that they encountered while on strike (access to food, clashing personalities, and the resulting tense environment). I thought it was super well-researched and thought out. And overall, it really honed in the point that empires are very fragile, and when united, the people have much more power to topple them than they think. 

I have very mixed feelings on the four main characters. I feel like they were... underdeveloped? With the exception of Robin since it was mostly told from his point of view. I felt like I didn't get a full picture of who they were and their friendship dynamic, and it seemed like the author wanted me to care about that. But I wish we got to see more of that friendship be explored and not just narrated to us. We would get time periods where they weren't getting along, but they never had actual conversations about it, it was just stated that they just got over that rough patch. I think I would have been more deeply affected by how the other characters ended up if we got some more insight into their stories. I could say the same with Griffin's character too. 

Overall, it was a very solid read with great insights on a very dark period of history (that we still see the ramifications of). Had some flaws but would still recommend! 

Some quotes I liked:

"Loss just meant a lack, meant something was missing, but it did not encompass the totality of this severance, this terrifying un-anchoring from all that he'd ever known"

"Betrayal. Translation means doing violence upon the original, means warping and distorting it for foreign unintended eyes... how can we conclude, except by acknowledging that an act of translation is then necessarily always an act of betrayal?"

"Robin found it incredible, how this country, whose citizens prided themselves so much on being better than the rest of the world, could not make it through an afternoon team without borrowed goods"

"It sounded so abstract -just categories of use, exchange, and value - until it wasn't; until you realized the web you lived in and the exploitations of your lifestyle demanded, until you saw looming above it all the spectre of colonial labour and colonial pain"

"That's just what translation is, I think. That's all speaking is. Listening to the other and trying to see past your own biases to glimpse what they're trying to say. Showing yourself to the world, and hping someone else understands"

"Liberation was a string of coincidences, of ingenuity, resourcefulness, and luck"

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Content Warnings

Graphic: Child abuse, Death, Emotional abuse, Racism, Sexual harassment, Colonisation, Grief, Murder, Physical abuse, Misogyny, Racial slurs, War, Classism, Sexism, Toxic relationship, Violence, and Xenophobia

rhi_'s review against another edition

challenging dark emotional sad tense slow-paced

• Plot- or character-driven? A mix
• Strong character development? Yes
• Loveable characters? Yes
• Diverse cast of characters? Yes
• Flaws of characters a main focus? It's complicated

4.5

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Content Warnings

Graphic: Colonisation, Cultural appropriation, Racial slurs, Suicide, Xenophobia, Murder, Gaslighting, Misogyny, Racism, Sexism, Torture, Violence, War, Classism, Grief, Death, and Hate crime

Moderate: Bullying, Emotional abuse, Child abuse, Gun violence, Toxic relationship, Police brutality, Toxic friendship, Blood, and Physical abuse

Minor: Drug use, Fire/Fire injury, Car accident, Death of parent, and Drug abuse

lokes's review against another edition

adventurous challenging dark emotional informative inspiring reflective sad tense medium-paced

• Plot- or character-driven? A mix
• Strong character development? Yes
• Loveable characters? It's complicated
• Diverse cast of characters? Yes
• Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes

5.0

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Content Warnings

Graphic: Colonisation, Suicide attempt, Racial slurs, Mental illness, Forced institutionalization, Classism, Religious bigotry, Racism, Gaslighting, Emotional abuse, Misogyny, Domestic abuse, Deportation, Death of parent, Suicide, Slavery, Genocide, Death, Child abuse, War, Transphobia, Toxic friendship, and Suicidal thoughts

Moderate: Alcoholism, Drug use, Gaslighting, Blood, Mental illness, Physical abuse, Religious bigotry, Slavery, Kidnapping, Injury/Injury detail, Medical trauma, War, Abandonment, Addiction, Eating disorder, Misogyny, Emotional abuse, Suicidal thoughts, Violence, Cursing, Hate crime, Suicide, Toxic relationship, Toxic friendship, Trafficking, Alcohol, Homophobia, and Murder

aroyalpane's review against another edition

challenging dark informative medium-paced

• Plot- or character-driven? Character
• Strong character development? It's complicated
• Loveable characters? Yes
• Diverse cast of characters? Yes
• Flaws of characters a main focus? No

5.0

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Content Warnings

Moderate: Death, Emotional abuse, Murder, Toxic relationship, Violence, Injury/Injury detail, Suicide, Death of parent, Gun violence, Racism, and Colonisation

zghutcheson01's review against another edition

challenging reflective sad slow-paced

• Plot- or character-driven? Plot
• Strong character development? Yes
• Loveable characters? Yes
• Diverse cast of characters? Yes
• Flaws of characters a main focus? It's complicated

5.0

This book was absolutely amazing. It was incredibly reflective and Kuang managed to intellectually and eloquently write about the intersection of race, class, and gender without glossing over all the joy that oppressed people made for themselves, even in times of extreme strife. I understand people’s criticism of flat characters and I would love to get more of the rest of the cast but I think this book is mainly about Robin and his emotions. This book is fueled mainly on themes and the introspection of a single character and I understand people not loving that, especially since I tend not to like books like that either. But I think Kiang’s choice to focus on young characters and their friendships early on in the book makes it more personal and emotional. It also straddles a weird line with fantasy and historical fiction since the only magic is in silver but I honestly don’t think it’s an issue with the book but with descriptions of it. I genuinely think this book is a masterpiece and everyone who can should read it.

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Content Warnings

Graphic: Grief, Mental illness, Murder, Violence, Emotional abuse, Colonisation, Racial slurs, Blood, Bullying, Death of parent, Gaslighting, Police brutality, Racism, Sexism, Death, Physical abuse, Child abuse, Suicidal thoughts, Xenophobia, and Classism

Moderate: Torture, Confinement, Toxic relationship, Slavery, Misogyny, Hate crime, Suicide attempt, Suicide, Blood, and Toxic friendship

clairew97's review against another edition

adventurous challenging dark emotional funny informative sad tense slow-paced

• Plot- or character-driven? A mix
• Strong character development? Yes
• Loveable characters? Yes
• Diverse cast of characters? Yes
• Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes

4.75

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Content Warnings

Graphic: Gaslighting, Suicide, Suicide attempt, Torture, Violence, Murder, Panic attacks/disorders, Physical abuse, Slavery, Addiction, Alcohol, Colonisation, Sexism, Death of parent, Deportation, Drug use, Toxic friendship, Abandonment, Blood, Body horror, Bullying, War, Child abuse, Death, Emotional abuse, Gun violence, Police brutality, Child death, Classism, Misogyny, Racial slurs, Religious bigotry, Suicidal thoughts, Grief, Injury/Injury detail, Mental illness, Medical trauma, Racism, Sexual harassment, Sexual violence, Toxic relationship, and Vomit

zoevjester's review against another edition

adventurous challenging emotional informative mysterious reflective tense medium-paced

• Plot- or character-driven? A mix
• Strong character development? Yes
• Loveable characters? Yes
• Diverse cast of characters? Yes
• Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes

4.0

Set in 1830's Oxford, with insight to silver trades, opium, translators' guild, and told with full, in-depth characters who shine through the story, and told through a modern lens. Beautifully written, though bitter-sweet in its ending, it is open-ended with the potential for follow-up if wanted. 

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Content Warnings

Graphic: Classism, Colonisation, Sexism, Misogyny, Torture, Murder, Racial slurs, Racism, Suicide, and Xenophobia

Moderate: Addiction, Child abuse, Gaslighting, Grief, Gun violence, Hate crime, Physical abuse, Slavery, Toxic friendship, Toxic relationship, Alcohol, Death of parent, Islamophobia, Violence, Cultural appropriation, and Death

Minor: Abandonment, Confinement, Drug use, Emotional abuse, Fire/Fire injury, Forced institutionalization, Genocide, Infidelity, Injury/Injury detail, Panic attacks/disorders, Police brutality, Trafficking, Vomit, War, Alcoholism, Blood, Drug abuse, Religious bigotry, and Sexual harassment

juliaureads's review against another edition

adventurous challenging dark emotional tense medium-paced

• Plot- or character-driven? Character
• Strong character development? Yes
• Loveable characters? Yes
• Diverse cast of characters? Yes
• Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes

4.75

REVIEW: Babel, or The Necessity of Violence by RF Kuang⁠

“If we push in the right spots - then we've moved things to the breaking point. The future becomes fluid, and change is possible. History isn't a premed tapestry that we've got to suffer, a closed world with no exit. We can form it. Make it. We just have to choose to make it.”⁠
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You're seeing this one all over bookstagram and for a good reason - it's a marvel. I loved every page and reading it was such a joy. ⁠
I won't go into too much detail for fear of spoilers and there are others with much more coherent reviews than I am capable of. ⁠
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If you love words and how words can build magical worlds, please add this to your TBR. It was the perfect dark academia fall read. Adding to the ever-growing list of books I wish I could experience for the first time over and over again.⁠

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Content Warnings

Graphic: Violence, Racism, Colonisation, and Xenophobia

Moderate: Toxic relationship

kaseybereading's review against another edition

challenging dark emotional tense slow-paced

• Plot- or character-driven? Character
• Strong character development? It's complicated
• Loveable characters? It's complicated
• Diverse cast of characters? Yes
• Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes

5.0

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Content Warnings

Graphic: Child abuse, Colonisation, Suicide, Drug use, Death of parent, Murder, and Toxic relationship

laurenkimoto's review against another edition

challenging dark emotional mysterious sad tense slow-paced

• Plot- or character-driven? Character
• Strong character development? Yes
• Loveable characters? Yes
• Diverse cast of characters? Yes
• Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes

4.75

This book is exactly what I wanted and expected of it. 
Kuang seamlessly takes her knowledge, history and blends it together to bring this world and characters to life. I wanted to join the characters at Oxford and their journeys and fights. How can she take their suffering and make a wonderful story of it????

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Content Warnings

Graphic: Colonisation, Death, Drug abuse, Genocide, Gore, Gun violence, Racism, Religious bigotry, Sexism, Hate crime, Racial slurs, Slavery, Violence, Xenophobia, Antisemitism, Cultural appropriation, Drug use, Emotional abuse, Gaslighting, Grief, Islamophobia, Toxic relationship, Classism, Murder, Toxic friendship, and War