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challenging
emotional
hopeful
informative
inspiring
reflective
sad
tense
slow-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? Yes
- Diverse cast of characters? No
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
5.0
"All is vanity, all falsehood, except that infinite sky. There is nothing, nothing, but that. But even it does not exist, there is nothing but quiet and peace. Thank God!..."
War and Peace: 2023-2024 reread.
I decided to reread this during the 2023 summer, until putting it on temporary hold and resuming (and finishing) in March 2024. Throughout my reread i wrote my thoughts at the end of each Volume with the intension of being able to track how my thoughts and focus's might change throughout the reread & also to compare with any future rereads i might carry out. I will type these out before summarising my overall thoughts & experience rereading the book. :)
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Volume 1 (2023)
"You're afraid of the unknown, that's what it is. Whatever we may say about the soul going to the sky... we know there is no sky but only an atmosphere."
▸ im enjoying war scenes much more than i did initially. the fact that i already know all the characters, these scenes offer a lot towards their development and insights into their opinions, their ambitions and what they're like in general.
↳ one of the main examples i found was through Prince Andrei. I've found im seeing much more variation in his character which I hadn't taken note of in my first read. the war scenes really show his inner conflict and ambition, the confusion of what he wants for himself.
↳ I've also found the war scenes are a way for Tolstoy to communicate ideas on the absurdity of war and the superficial mindset of some of those fighting in it. e.g. page 303, a soldier pesters Rostov about his bravery, that despite his injury he continued fighting. clearly he just wanted to be recognised for his glory. this is similarly done in Nikolai's character, since he constantly wants to be recognised by the emperor and the higher classes (e.g. his argument with Andrei on p. 259).
▸ ive seen a lot of differences in Prince Andrei's character in general to how i saw him originally. when i first read Book 1 i remember thinking 'this guy is really grumpy, why do people like him?'. But this edition emphasises how really, hes just sad and purposeless, he feels stagnant i think. its already highlighting the mistakes he makes all throughout the book, repeatedly abandoning those who love him without realising the damage hes doing.
These were my main thoughts on Book 1 after rereading it. I remember Pierre and Natasha being much more present than they actually were; i guess that'll come more in the next part when the others return from the war.
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Volume 2 (2023)
"one must try to make one's life as pleasant as possible. I'm alive; that is not my fault so I must live out my life as best I can, without hurting others."
On my first read, Book 2 was my favourite part of the whole novel. it contains romance between main characters, controversy and really really great character development. its as if the first book was just an introduction, and its in this part where we fully get to know them.
Obviously, the standout storyline is between Andrei, Natasha and Anatole. this begins with
my personal favourite part, the ball where Natasha and Andrei meet. i love their relationship, even if it doesnt last too long in the book.
i always used to debate who was to blame, which specific person i should hate for breaking the two characters apart. the reread however made it clear that not only is this not necessary, but that it's not possible. all three make mistakes that, when tied together, bring out the absolute worst in the others.
we start to see a repetition in Andrei's character throughout this part. the issue he seems to have is coming to peace with himself and appreciating those who love him, only to unknowingly throw this away.
I can't tell whether he finds more peace when alone at war, experiencing the atrocities of man, or when hes home with his loved ones. or maybe experiencing war is what allows him to appreciate what he has.
Pierre has similar issues with negative repetition. we watch him as he scrambles to find some way of explaining the lack of purpose he feels, some of these being through religion and alcoholism. unlike Andrei though, he doesn't seem to have these periods of peace.
maybe the title of War and Peace shouldn't be taken in the literal sense. the characters also endure periods of war and peace with themselves morally and emotionally.
--
Volume 3 (2024)
"Gazing at the high starry sky, at the moon, at the comet, and at the glow from the fire, Pierre experienced a joyful emotion. 'There now, how good it is, what more does one need?'
(Started reading Book 3 after a long break so my memory is a bit iffy).
Structure
> Book 3 is the first one in which Tolstoy starts discussing history and philosophy with us (and, of course, a lot of war stuff). I don't particularly mind/dislike this? Sometimes it's tedious, but i'm finding that each time i come back to War and Peace, I focus on different stuff, and in this section and time (March 2024) i'm enjoying his narration and view on history.
> Again, the war sections are sometimes tedious (especially since Volume 2 was so 'home' centric), but i enjoyed them more than on my first read. I'm quite interested in Kutuzov and the impact of Napoleon's invasion this time round.
Characters
> Natasha and the Rostovs don't seem to have as much of a role in Volume 3 - i suppose this illustrates the aristocracy's (lack of) role in war, though this of course is predominantely a case for the females.
> Pierre and Andrei, of course, are in the middle of acting on their leitmotifs.I forgot about Pierre's quest to kill Napoleon - his searches for self-worth get increasingly ridiculous throughout. Andrei's seem more obviously harmful since his boredom in safety has (almost) gotten him killed at this point.
> i'm wondering about the reactions to Kutuzov's death soon, as i didn't focus on this on my first read.
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Volume 4 (2024)
"She did not know and would not have believed it, but beneath the layer of silt that covered her soul and seemed to her impenetrable, delicate young shoots of grass were already sprouting, which, taking root, would so cover with their living verdure the grief that weighed her down that it would soon no longer be seen or noticed. The wound had begun to heal from within."
I felt very character focused during this section - didn't enjoy the war & philosophy chapters as much (likely because of their placement - Andrei dying and straight to war and historical discussion after doesn't sit right with me, kind of takes you out of the moment).
I really enjoyed the emphasis and change in Marya & Natasha's relationship in this part. I would enjoy if they became friends earlier, but also it's sweet that they are brought together in grief.
I am not a fan of the ending.Not because I dislike Pierre and Natasha together - I don't like how it's carried out. It seems really rushed and abrupt, and i'm finding myself disappointed that Pierre doesn't actually ask her, Marya does it for him.
it's an important section for character development and the effects of grief among the war - I just with it hadn't been a rushed and randomly broken up by historical chapters as it was. Basically, i would have enjoyed a more balanced ratio of philosophy-fiction, and one which didn't break up character storylines which felt important with philosophical discussion.
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Epilogue (2024)
"You know,' he added, stopping at the door, 'why i'm especially fond of that music? It is always the first thing that tells me all is well."
The fictional half of the epilogue is, i think, necessary for some nice character storyline wrap-ups. i enjoyed catching up with what the characters are doing many years later, however i do feel there are some weird loose ends, or parts which didn't sit right with me at least.
Natasha and Pierre's relationship i found a little problematic this time round. Natasha's character throughout the book really stuck out to me, with her exciting personality and energy, but this is extremely pushed down in the epilogue. it has only been six years since Volume 4, and yet she now acts as Pierre's 'slave' and has completely abandoned music, society, dress, as she did during Volume 2 & 3? I find this really disappointing. While it could point towards her maturity, her being able to settle down with Pierre, i didn't like this development at all.
I also feel disappointed with Sonya's ending, who basically didn't have any satisfactory conclusions at all. Its really unfortunate that she continues living with Nikolai and Marya, neither of whom like her or enjoy her company. It just seems a little unfair.
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Overall thoughts
I think i got much more from this book upon a reread. This is the type of book which every time you reread it, you get something different out of it, or find yourself focusing on a different theme, set of characters, or storyline. The first half of my reread in 2023 found me focusing very much on the characters and their relationships, primarily Andrei and Natasha. Upon re-experiencing, Natasha has likely replaced Andrei as my favourite character (i noticed his flaws a lot more this time around), and i didn't seem to focus on Pierre's character as much as i did on my first read, though i didnn't that much either. Next time, i would like to focus more on Pierre and his path to discovering self-worth and his methods in achieving it. I feel i understand Andrei's character much more than i do Pierre's.
During my 2024 reading i had started reading a lot of scholarly papers on the novel, its structure especially. I want to focus on this a lot more in my next reread in the summer, as well as how Tolstoy depicts the Napoleonic wars and their effects on aristocratic society. I did notice after reading them the odd structure of the book, especially during Volume 3 & 4, where important character events were often disrupted by philosophical and historical discussion, which was distracting to say the least.
Obviously, this book is worth a reread. You probably don't get better than Tolstoy. The character's are crafted in a way that is so complex, so lovable, and so human, that i think about them every day. I sadly doubt anything can top this. While i can continue to love modern characters, to follow new storylines and new books, i will, without a doubt, keep coming back to this one and the amazing people i met in reading it.
War and Peace: 2023-2024 reread.
I decided to reread this during the 2023 summer, until putting it on temporary hold and resuming (and finishing) in March 2024. Throughout my reread i wrote my thoughts at the end of each Volume with the intension of being able to track how my thoughts and focus's might change throughout the reread & also to compare with any future rereads i might carry out. I will type these out before summarising my overall thoughts & experience rereading the book. :)
--
Volume 1 (2023)
"You're afraid of the unknown, that's what it is. Whatever we may say about the soul going to the sky... we know there is no sky but only an atmosphere."
▸ im enjoying war scenes much more than i did initially. the fact that i already know all the characters, these scenes offer a lot towards their development and insights into their opinions, their ambitions and what they're like in general.
↳ one of the main examples i found was through Prince Andrei. I've found im seeing much more variation in his character which I hadn't taken note of in my first read. the war scenes really show his inner conflict and ambition, the confusion of what he wants for himself.
↳ I've also found the war scenes are a way for Tolstoy to communicate ideas on the absurdity of war and the superficial mindset of some of those fighting in it. e.g. page 303, a soldier pesters Rostov about his bravery, that despite his injury he continued fighting. clearly he just wanted to be recognised for his glory. this is similarly done in Nikolai's character, since he constantly wants to be recognised by the emperor and the higher classes (e.g. his argument with Andrei on p. 259).
▸ ive seen a lot of differences in Prince Andrei's character in general to how i saw him originally. when i first read Book 1 i remember thinking 'this guy is really grumpy, why do people like him?'. But this edition emphasises how really, hes just sad and purposeless, he feels stagnant i think. its already highlighting the mistakes he makes all throughout the book, repeatedly abandoning those who love him without realising the damage hes doing.
These were my main thoughts on Book 1 after rereading it. I remember Pierre and Natasha being much more present than they actually were; i guess that'll come more in the next part when the others return from the war.
--
Volume 2 (2023)
"one must try to make one's life as pleasant as possible. I'm alive; that is not my fault so I must live out my life as best I can, without hurting others."
On my first read, Book 2 was my favourite part of the whole novel. it contains romance between main characters, controversy and really really great character development. its as if the first book was just an introduction, and its in this part where we fully get to know them.
Obviously, the standout storyline is between Andrei, Natasha and Anatole. this begins with
my personal favourite part, the ball where Natasha and Andrei meet. i love their relationship, even if it doesnt last too long in the book.
i always used to debate who was to blame, which specific person i should hate for breaking the two characters apart. the reread however made it clear that not only is this not necessary, but that it's not possible. all three make mistakes that, when tied together, bring out the absolute worst in the others.
we start to see a repetition in Andrei's character throughout this part. the issue he seems to have is coming to peace with himself and appreciating those who love him, only to unknowingly throw this away.
I can't tell whether he finds more peace when alone at war, experiencing the atrocities of man, or when hes home with his loved ones. or maybe experiencing war is what allows him to appreciate what he has.
Pierre has similar issues with negative repetition. we watch him as he scrambles to find some way of explaining the lack of purpose he feels, some of these being through religion and alcoholism. unlike Andrei though, he doesn't seem to have these periods of peace.
maybe the title of War and Peace shouldn't be taken in the literal sense. the characters also endure periods of war and peace with themselves morally and emotionally.
--
Volume 3 (2024)
"Gazing at the high starry sky, at the moon, at the comet, and at the glow from the fire, Pierre experienced a joyful emotion. 'There now, how good it is, what more does one need?'
(Started reading Book 3 after a long break so my memory is a bit iffy).
Structure
> Book 3 is the first one in which Tolstoy starts discussing history and philosophy with us (and, of course, a lot of war stuff). I don't particularly mind/dislike this? Sometimes it's tedious, but i'm finding that each time i come back to War and Peace, I focus on different stuff, and in this section and time (March 2024) i'm enjoying his narration and view on history.
> Again, the war sections are sometimes tedious (especially since Volume 2 was so 'home' centric), but i enjoyed them more than on my first read. I'm quite interested in Kutuzov and the impact of Napoleon's invasion this time round.
Characters
> Natasha and the Rostovs don't seem to have as much of a role in Volume 3 - i suppose this illustrates the aristocracy's (lack of) role in war, though this of course is predominantely a case for the females.
> Pierre and Andrei, of course, are in the middle of acting on their leitmotifs.
>
--
Volume 4 (2024)
"She did not know and would not have believed it, but beneath the layer of silt that covered her soul and seemed to her impenetrable, delicate young shoots of grass were already sprouting, which, taking root, would so cover with their living verdure the grief that weighed her down that it would soon no longer be seen or noticed. The wound had begun to heal from within."
I felt very character focused during this section - didn't enjoy the war & philosophy chapters as much (likely because of their placement
I really enjoyed the emphasis and change in Marya & Natasha's relationship in this part. I would enjoy if they became friends earlier, but also it's sweet that they are brought together in grief.
I am not a fan of the ending.
it's an important section for character development and the effects of grief among the war - I just with it hadn't been a rushed and randomly broken up by historical chapters as it was. Basically, i would have enjoyed a more balanced ratio of philosophy-fiction, and one which didn't break up character storylines which felt important with philosophical discussion.
--
Epilogue (2024)
"You know,' he added, stopping at the door, 'why i'm especially fond of that music? It is always the first thing that tells me all is well."
The fictional half of the epilogue is, i think, necessary for some nice character storyline wrap-ups. i enjoyed catching up with what the characters are doing many years later, however i do feel there are some weird loose ends, or parts which didn't sit right with me at least.
Natasha and Pierre's relationship i found a little problematic this time round. Natasha's character throughout the book really stuck out to me, with her exciting personality and energy, but this is extremely pushed down in the epilogue. it has only been six years since Volume 4, and yet she now acts as Pierre's 'slave' and has completely abandoned music, society, dress, as she did during Volume 2 & 3? I find this really disappointing. While it could point towards her maturity, her being able to settle down with Pierre, i didn't like this development at all.
I also feel disappointed with Sonya's ending, who basically didn't have any satisfactory conclusions at all. Its really unfortunate that she continues living with Nikolai and Marya, neither of whom like her or enjoy her company. It just seems a little unfair.
-----
Overall thoughts
I think i got much more from this book upon a reread. This is the type of book which every time you reread it, you get something different out of it, or find yourself focusing on a different theme, set of characters, or storyline. The first half of my reread in 2023 found me focusing very much on the characters and their relationships, primarily Andrei and Natasha. Upon re-experiencing, Natasha has likely replaced Andrei as my favourite character (i noticed his flaws a lot more this time around), and i didn't seem to focus on Pierre's character as much as i did on my first read, though i didnn't that much either. Next time, i would like to focus more on Pierre and his path to discovering self-worth and his methods in achieving it. I feel i understand Andrei's character much more than i do Pierre's.
During my 2024 reading i had started reading a lot of scholarly papers on the novel, its structure especially. I want to focus on this a lot more in my next reread in the summer, as well as how Tolstoy depicts the Napoleonic wars and their effects on aristocratic society. I did notice after reading them the odd structure of the book, especially during Volume 3 & 4, where important character events were often disrupted by philosophical and historical discussion, which was distracting to say the least.
Obviously, this book is worth a reread. You probably don't get better than Tolstoy. The character's are crafted in a way that is so complex, so lovable, and so human, that i think about them every day. I sadly doubt anything can top this. While i can continue to love modern characters, to follow new storylines and new books, i will, without a doubt, keep coming back to this one and the amazing people i met in reading it.
Content Warnings
Graphic: War, Death, and Injury/Injury detail
Moderate: Pedophilia, Suicide, Violence, Abortion, Child death, Death of parent, and Grief
liesthemoontells's review against another edition
challenging
dark
informative
reflective
slow-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? It's complicated
- Diverse cast of characters? No
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
3.75
The hardest thing about reading War and Peace is the length, the content itself is (mainly) engaging and easy to read, and the characters are as fresh and believable in their motives and expressions as those in any novel written today. The peace parts are way more engaging than the war parts. Also I took a quarter of a star off for the exhausting protractedness of the second epilogue.
Content Warnings
Graphic: War, Slavery, Violence, Sexism, and Infidelity
Moderate: Suicide
spirotechnics's review against another edition
adventurous
challenging
emotional
reflective
sad
slow-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? It's complicated
- Diverse cast of characters? No
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
4.25
Wow. This book. Honestly, there isn't much that I have to say that hasn't already been said. It's an incredibly well-written piece of literature that I had the joy of reading for class. But holy fuck was this book long. With the time constraints I had, I needed to read the book a lot faster than I would have originally liked to when reading for leisure, and thus, I feel I may have missed some important moments. Nevertheless, what I was able to remember was quite an enjoyable read.
Andrey was by far one of the most interesting and nuanced characters I've read as of late and seeing how he grappled with various circumstancesand his own mortality was incredibly entertaining. It literally broke me when he died, especially since it was such a long, drawn out process. I was right along with Natasha and Marya. Tolstoy ragging on Napoleon was also incredibly funny. The main reason I'm removing points is because I am a bit annoyed with the way Natasha was "manic pixie dream girl-ed" by a good chunk of the male cast. Don't get me wrong, I adored her, but there were times where hearing how all these guys were obsessed with her was a bit much. Helene also deserved so much better than what she got, in spite of her flaws. Also, while the prose was incredibly wonderful, it very much did drag at some moments, which was kinda irritating. Incredible book!
Andrey was by far one of the most interesting and nuanced characters I've read as of late and seeing how he grappled with various circumstances
Content Warnings
Moderate: Suicide and Suicide attempt
helene_kuragina's review against another edition
challenging
emotional
hopeful
reflective
tense
slow-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? Yes
- Diverse cast of characters? No
- Flaws of characters a main focus? It's complicated
5.0
Content Warnings
Minor: Death, Emotional abuse, Incest, Misogyny, and Suicide
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