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melsage1823's review against another edition
challenging
emotional
informative
reflective
sad
slow-paced
4.75
A Masterfully Well Constructed Non-Fiction Novel That Unmasks The True Sinister History Behind Israel As Well As How Their Propaganda Works.
I wanted to learn more about the history of the ethnic cleansing of Palestine and loads of people recommend this novel. A very good worthy recommendation. Book Tok aren't lying with this one. Impressively it manages to ram in a lot of information despite it's short length. After reading I've found myself easily understand the cycle of violence and slaughter. Ilan Pappé and Noam Chomsky have amazing thoughts about what's going on and sum it all up with explicit facts instead of bias. This book is not as at all biased, its two historians breaking down the facts with evidence.
My only criticism is that I found it way too clogged. Without an available Audiobook it was very hard to follow the different discussions each chapter and I feel like personally the clogged problem could have been fixed with at least a hundred more pages. I wanted to learn the history but it felt really exhausting to follow times. Especially since the book is aimed at readers who don't know much I really wish the information was easier to consume in a less overwhelming way. The style is definitely not neurodivergent in my opinion so please read to your needs.
Other than that though it's a really good novel that serves its purpose well. There's so much I could praise but I'm only gonna mention the highlights.
First I have to praise the conversations. The best part of the novel was a hundred percent the transcribed conversions with Ilan Pappé and Noam Chomsky with Frank Barat asking the questions. It was a very clever way to present the information to the reader in an engaging way. It also allowed for more thoughtful and reflecting discussion about stuff as the similarities to the African Apartheid as well as the complex nuance of the two state solution. When all three men's words are together it feels like a live interview is going on. The questions also allow readers to breath and brace for the essays featured in the novel consisting of extracts from Ilan Pappé and Noam Chomskys other novels. You can tell how much care the interview was scribed with.
Secondly the way it breaks down Israel's military strategy and how it has a grip on so many other people including the USA. Without any spoilers, propganda is very easy to fall for but its very interesting and brave for Ilan Pappé to talk about as an Israeli how easy it is too fall for propgander as a child and what it takes to unlearn these things. Ilan proves it's never too late to change your mind and de-radiclise yourself. He also gets into the mind of Israel really well and also brilliant describes why countries like the US and the UK are willing to look away and keep supporting them. It's really admirable that Pappé despite being Israeli himself is willing to call out how they system has affected him and others into believing its okay.
Finally the care and research. A good nonfiction needs to credit its sources if its wants to teach the audience and On Palestine does that with at least four or five pages in the book dedicated to listing all of their credible sources. I also like that both authors include extracts from their other books to show how relevant the things they've written in the past still are. There's clearly a lot of care gone into scribing this novel and research. You know it's good when the research is better than what most journalists do. Each chapter is also carefully structured in a Who, What, When, Why like structure to help break to the reader what has happened, what is happening and what will happen. Its also great that there's footnotes that include sources directly in the book too. All three writers show great integrity by doing this than most journalists are today.
Overall this is the go too pick if you want to learn what Palestinians have had to endure for years under a cruel regime. It'll open your eyes further than you thought possible. Cannot recommend enough.
I wanted to learn more about the history of the ethnic cleansing of Palestine and loads of people recommend this novel. A very good worthy recommendation. Book Tok aren't lying with this one. Impressively it manages to ram in a lot of information despite it's short length. After reading I've found myself easily understand the cycle of violence and slaughter. Ilan Pappé and Noam Chomsky have amazing thoughts about what's going on and sum it all up with explicit facts instead of bias. This book is not as at all biased, its two historians breaking down the facts with evidence.
My only criticism is that I found it way too clogged. Without an available Audiobook it was very hard to follow the different discussions each chapter and I feel like personally the clogged problem could have been fixed with at least a hundred more pages. I wanted to learn the history but it felt really exhausting to follow times. Especially since the book is aimed at readers who don't know much I really wish the information was easier to consume in a less overwhelming way. The style is definitely not neurodivergent in my opinion so please read to your needs.
Other than that though it's a really good novel that serves its purpose well. There's so much I could praise but I'm only gonna mention the highlights.
First I have to praise the conversations. The best part of the novel was a hundred percent the transcribed conversions with Ilan Pappé and Noam Chomsky with Frank Barat asking the questions. It was a very clever way to present the information to the reader in an engaging way. It also allowed for more thoughtful and reflecting discussion about stuff as the similarities to the African Apartheid as well as the complex nuance of the two state solution. When all three men's words are together it feels like a live interview is going on. The questions also allow readers to breath and brace for the essays featured in the novel consisting of extracts from Ilan Pappé and Noam Chomskys other novels. You can tell how much care the interview was scribed with.
Secondly the way it breaks down Israel's military strategy and how it has a grip on so many other people including the USA. Without any spoilers, propganda is very easy to fall for but its very interesting and brave for Ilan Pappé to talk about as an Israeli how easy it is too fall for propgander as a child and what it takes to unlearn these things. Ilan proves it's never too late to change your mind and de-radiclise yourself. He also gets into the mind of Israel really well and also brilliant describes why countries like the US and the UK are willing to look away and keep supporting them. It's really admirable that Pappé despite being Israeli himself is willing to call out how they system has affected him and others into believing its okay.
Finally the care and research. A good nonfiction needs to credit its sources if its wants to teach the audience and On Palestine does that with at least four or five pages in the book dedicated to listing all of their credible sources. I also like that both authors include extracts from their other books to show how relevant the things they've written in the past still are. There's clearly a lot of care gone into scribing this novel and research. You know it's good when the research is better than what most journalists do. Each chapter is also carefully structured in a Who, What, When, Why like structure to help break to the reader what has happened, what is happening and what will happen. Its also great that there's footnotes that include sources directly in the book too. All three writers show great integrity by doing this than most journalists are today.
Overall this is the go too pick if you want to learn what Palestinians have had to endure for years under a cruel regime. It'll open your eyes further than you thought possible. Cannot recommend enough.
Content Warnings
Graphic: Racism, War, Islamophobia, Genocide, Violence, Hate crime, and Colonisation
Minor: Child death
smilagros's review against another edition
dark
informative
sad
tense
medium-paced
I listened to this on audio and I don’t know if that was the right decision. At times, I felt that it was repetitive about the same situation. I think that I need to see the conversation physically to get a grasp about what each professor is saying. What I did notice is that there was a lot of murder and violence against the Palestinian people in current day. I have been working on understanding what is happening in Gaza. I learned new horrible tactics Israel is doing and the situations that the United States allowed and or looked the other way.
Content Warnings
Graphic: War, Genocide, Violence, and Murder
mmccombs's review against another edition
informative
reflective
medium-paced
3.5
This was informative, if a bit repetitive and narrowly focused. I liked that most of this little book was framed as a conversation, allowing for multiple perspectives and encouraging the reader to form their own thoughts about what a long term solution and support for Palestinians could look like. If you’re looking for a history lesson or really in depth analysis, this is not the book, but if you’re looking for fairly approachable reflections on why Israel refuses to come to the table and why violence continues (mostly focused on events around 2014), this might be a good, short one to read.
Content Warnings
Graphic: Colonisation and Violence
robinks's review against another edition
informative
reflective
medium-paced
5.0
The first half of the book consists of dialogues, which are very accessible. Each chapter clearly illuminates chronologically the facts of the history and genocide of the Palestinian people by Israel. FROM THE RIVER TO THE SEA, in our lifetime!!
Content Warnings
Graphic: Genocide, Confinement, and Colonisation
Moderate: Violence, Gun violence, Child death, Murder, Racism, and Police brutality
Minor: Antisemitism and Kidnapping
kase's review against another edition
challenging
emotional
informative
reflective
sad
tense
medium-paced
5.0
Content Warnings
Graphic: Genocide, Murder, Racism, War, Confinement, Death, Deportation, Hate crime, Islamophobia, Religious bigotry, Violence, Classism, Colonisation, and Xenophobia
onewoman_bookclub's review against another edition
hopeful
informative
sad
medium-paced
5.0
Content Warnings
Graphic: Genocide, Violence, and War
196books's review against another edition
challenging
informative
reflective
medium-paced
4.0
Content Warnings
Graphic: Death, Racism, War, and Xenophobia
Moderate: Hate crime and Violence
booknerderika's review against another edition
informative
sad
fast-paced
4.75
This book was informative and brought up many crucial points for understanding the struggles of the Palestinian people.
One reason, among many, that I appreciated the dialogue in this book was because of the insight that Ilan Pappé brought to the discussion. I think it is important to hear from former zionists because they can explain the mindset of the Israeli zionists from first-hand experience.
One part in particular that has stuck with me is in regards to the comparison of Palestine/Israel to South Africa. It was mentioned that Israelis don't need Palestinians the same way that white South Africans needed black South Africans, which makes this issue so much more extreme. I had not considered that, but it makes so much sense when looking at the way Israel has treated the Palestinians, especially those in Gaza.
This also helped shed light on the nature of the Israeli government by showing their continued pattern of disregarding ceasefire agreements.
It's sad that this has been going on for so long and also frustrating that the US is continuing to contribute to the Israeli apartheid by funding and supporting it. It's also disgustingly appalling to see how Israel committed and continues to commit war crimes against Palestine with no repercussions.
One reason, among many, that I appreciated the dialogue in this book was because of the insight that Ilan Pappé brought to the discussion. I think it is important to hear from former zionists because they can explain the mindset of the Israeli zionists from first-hand experience.
One part in particular that has stuck with me is in regards to the comparison of Palestine/Israel to South Africa. It was mentioned that Israelis don't need Palestinians the same way that white South Africans needed black South Africans, which makes this issue so much more extreme. I had not considered that, but it makes so much sense when looking at the way Israel has treated the Palestinians, especially those in Gaza.
This also helped shed light on the nature of the Israeli government by showing their continued pattern of disregarding ceasefire agreements.
It's sad that this has been going on for so long and also frustrating that the US is continuing to contribute to the Israeli apartheid by funding and supporting it. It's also disgustingly appalling to see how Israel committed and continues to commit war crimes against Palestine with no repercussions.
Content Warnings
Graphic: Genocide, Confinement, and Hate crime
Moderate: Racism, Violence, and War
Minor: Murder, Child death, and Death
bunbobabe's review against another edition
informative
medium-paced
4.0
Content Warnings
Moderate: Colonisation, War, Islamophobia, Genocide, Racism, and Violence
introvertsbookclub's review against another edition
informative
medium-paced
4.0
A clear introduction to the the history of Palestine and Israel and the current situation. It outlines the colonialism and racism behind the occupation in Palestine, the Israeli government’s continued efforts to undermine peace and enact violence, and the support from the US and Europe which has made it possible to do so. It traces performative words and contradictory actions, bias and propaganda.
Most importantly, it evaluates possible solutions, or steps forward, and what needs to change to make them possible.
Most importantly, it evaluates possible solutions, or steps forward, and what needs to change to make them possible.
Content Warnings
Moderate: Violence and War