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anastashamarie's review against another edition
- Plot- or character-driven? N/A
- Strong character development? No
- Loveable characters? No
- Diverse cast of characters? No
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
2.75
⚠️ TWs: this book contains themes of animal death (including death of a dog), murder, incest, sexual assault, substance use, alcoholism, and suicide.
I'm REALLY struggling to understand what the hype is surrounding this book, which is saying something because I'm a fan of dark academia and murder mysteries, both of which I thought this would be, and neither of which it really delivers upon. They go to class less than a dozen times through the story and the only thing generally academic about them is that they like to read and that they're pretentious (she says, sort of tongue in cheek, almost done with her own PhD).
"But it's so atmospheric! I want to live this aesthetic!" I'm sorry but bish, what? They're a bunch of mentally ill drug addicts who can't see past their own narcissism. Did you not read this book? None of this is a pleasant aesthetic. And none of this is what college in New England or the Mid Atlantic region is actually like, if that's the aesthetic you think you like (she says again, acutely away that this might also seem pretentious and conflicted about mentioning her own collegiate experience again for that reason).
Is it atmospheric? Yes, technically. Does any of the atmosphere actually matter for the story? Debatable...and I would argue on the side of "no." There's such minimal character development and I didn't care about anyone or anything until Part 24/28 of the audiobook, when everyone began to really descend into madness in the aftereffects of the murder...and then just abruptly came to the epilogue as soon as I really started to care.
Not to mention that the atmosphere and minimal plot line are buried under mountains and mountains of purple prose. I felt like literally half the book could have been cut, such was its superfluousness. But for the word count of this book, there was very little showing and very much telling. There were points of the story where I literally exclaimed, out loud, "Why is this a retrospective? It would have been much more interesting if it happened on the page!"
Not to mention that the relationships were entirely flat because there was no foundation to them. Which maybe was the point...but if the whole point is that your characters are so unlikable that they don't even like each other, and that it's steeped in layers of pretention to really drive home how pretentious everyone is, and your plot is so shallow that you can't even drown it it -- what even is the point of the book? Is it masterful or is it just people making something out of nothing and everyone just agrees so they can be "in" on it?
The pretentiousness is the biggest problem of this book, and I don't mean in that the characters are pretentious. I get that they're supposed to be, and I get that their own narrow prospective ends up being their downfall (that, at least, this book does well). But where my problem lies is that the book itself reads as entirely pretentious, like the author herself is on some high horse about how she knows all this stuff about classicism and you're either part of the group or not. It's definitely "a modern classic," in the sense that it has a bunch of allegories and symbolism that my AP English teachers would go wild for.
Ugh, anyway. I'm going to stop because I feel like these awful characters are rubbing off on me.
Graphic: Incest, Suicide, Murder, Drug abuse, Drug use, Alcohol, Animal death, Sexual assault, and Alcoholism
takarakei's review against another edition
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? It's complicated
- Loveable characters? No
- Diverse cast of characters? No
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
3.25
I definitely feel like it could have ~100 pages of monotony edited out, or those parts should have been replaced by more time with Julian in the classroom / explaining the catalyst of what they were studying influencing the original group (and why they were in the woods...)
I found it interesting to think about the moral quandary of Bunny being a supremely unlikeable character and how we as readers can empathize with the desire to get rid of him from the other character's POV. All the characters are disastrously flawed and the only one I actually feel bad for in the end is Camilla. If you can stand to read about pretentious flawed horrible characters who are continually awful to each other then I guess it's an interesting character study book.
Graphic: Suicide, Alcohol, Alcoholism, and Murder
Moderate: Emotional abuse, Grief, Drug use, Misogyny, Gun violence, Suicide attempt, Homophobia, Incest, and Racism
Minor: Religious bigotry, Animal death, Racial slurs, and Rape
sofi_dlms's review against another edition
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? It's complicated
- Diverse cast of characters? No
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
5.0
Graphic: Addiction, Alcohol, Suicidal thoughts, Suicide attempt, and Murder
Moderate: Incest, Physical abuse, Animal death, and Panic attacks/disorders
bea2001's review against another edition
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? It's complicated
- Loveable characters? It's complicated
- Diverse cast of characters? No
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
4.5
Graphic: Grief, Death, Murder, Classism, and Drug use
Moderate: Animal death, Domestic abuse, Homophobia, Incest, Physical abuse, Suicide, Alcohol, Alcoholism, Toxic friendship, and Addiction
Minor: Misogyny, Panic attacks/disorders, Racism, Self harm, and Rape
just_a_random_dead_thing's review against another edition
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? It's complicated
- Loveable characters? It's complicated
- Diverse cast of characters? No
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
4.5
Graphic: Grief, Alcohol, Alcoholism, Murder, Toxic friendship, Incest, Gaslighting, Drug abuse, Drug use, Death, and Addiction
Moderate: Sexism, Gun violence, Mental illness, Panic attacks/disorders, Religious bigotry, Homophobia, Antisemitism, Hate crime, Classism, Animal death, Sexual assault, Cursing, and Animal cruelty
Minor: Car accident, Forced institutionalization, Death of parent, and Domestic abuse
pamnc's review against another edition
- Plot- or character-driven? Character
- Strong character development? No
- Loveable characters? No
- Diverse cast of characters? No
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
2.0
Graphic: Alcoholism and Murder
Moderate: Animal death and Animal cruelty
Minor: Incest
sadiaa's review against another edition
4.75
Moderate: Addiction, Classism, Death, Gaslighting, Grief, Medical content, Mental illness, Misogyny, Murder, Suicidal thoughts, Suicide attempt, Toxic friendship, Drug abuse, Alcohol, Alcoholism, Animal death, Eating disorder, Injury/Injury detail, Physical abuse, Sexual assault, Sexual violence, Blood, Car accident, Child abuse, Cursing, Death of parent, Domestic abuse, Drug use, Panic attacks/disorders, Animal cruelty, Emotional abuse, Homophobia, Incest, Self harm, and Sexual harassment
darkty's review against another edition
- Plot- or character-driven? Plot
- Strong character development? It's complicated
- Loveable characters? No
- Diverse cast of characters? No
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
like bro! But I have to confess, I coud not put it down...sadly
Graphic: Toxic relationship, Violence, Adult/minor relationship, Classism, Alcohol, Gaslighting, Animal cruelty, Animal death, Bullying, Physical abuse, Sexism, Sexual assault, Sexual content, Sexual harassment, Sexual violence, Toxic friendship, Domestic abuse, Death, Cursing, Drug use, Injury/Injury detail, Murder, Pedophilia, Rape, Drug abuse, Hate crime, Panic attacks/disorders, Alcoholism, Emotional abuse, Gore, Grief, Gun violence, Addiction, Blood, Incest, and Misogyny
irongauntlet's review against another edition
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? It's complicated
- Loveable characters? It's complicated
- Diverse cast of characters? No
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
5.0
Graphic: Addiction, Murder, Death, Alcoholism, Suicide, and Alcohol
Moderate: Drug use
Minor: Incest and Animal death
book_slay's review against another edition
- Plot- or character-driven? Character
- Strong character development? It's complicated
- Loveable characters? It's complicated
- Diverse cast of characters? It's complicated
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
5.0
Graphic: Addiction, Domestic abuse, Drug use, Physical abuse, Racism, Sexism, Sexual harassment, Violence, Vomit, Adult/minor relationship, Animal death, Body horror, Emotional abuse, Injury/Injury detail, Misogyny, Classism, Gun violence, Homophobia, Incest, Suicide, Toxic friendship, Toxic relationship, Alcoholism, Blood, Gaslighting, Mental illness, and Murder