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3.21 AVERAGE
3.21 AVERAGE
informative
medium-paced
Henry VIII is one of the most popular historical figures that we read about, or that is features in shows and movies. He made a huge impact on the world in many ways, specifically with his religious shenanagins. Obviously, he is very well known for his six wives and their various demises, as well as his daughters. This book takes a deeper look into the various mistresses and offspring produced by those illicit liaisons, and also helps drive home the point that this man was a notorious womanizer. The book attempts to show that he was a monogamist, but that is not a point that I particularly agree with. I do believe that he spent his life searching for the perfect female companion, especially one that would provide him with a son. I also think he was probably terribly romantic at heart, as evidenced by some of his letters and behaviors. The fact remains that he took several mistresses, and acted in ways that are abhorrent.
This book wasn't terribly long, just around 300 pages. I have had this book for a while, and finally worked my way to it. I did like learning more about the various mistresses of Henry VIII and the children that were fathered by him. I have learned so much about his six wives, and less about these women on the side. I do appreciate the level of research that went into this book, and thought that it was written in a very engaging way.
This book wasn't terribly long, just around 300 pages. I have had this book for a while, and finally worked my way to it. I did like learning more about the various mistresses of Henry VIII and the children that were fathered by him. I have learned so much about his six wives, and less about these women on the side. I do appreciate the level of research that went into this book, and thought that it was written in a very engaging way.
Good Points: Very detailed, learns a lot about Henery VIII that I did not know (along with his children)
Bad Points: Very tedious reading, jumped around too much, Sometimes the added details were not needed
Bad Points: Very tedious reading, jumped around too much, Sometimes the added details were not needed
6/10 Stars. Some interesting insight into Henry VIII mommy issues and other insecurities and how those insecurities and obsessions affected his love life. This novel also went into great detail about five people who may have been Henry's children, their deeds great and small. The main problem with this book was all the spelling and grammatical errors. The most egregious one in my opinion was on page 102, Anne Boleyn's Maternal Family Tree states Elizabeth I lifetime to be 1533-1605. More errors like this occur, in one place it is stated Anne Boleyn was born in 1501, in another, 1507 (of course historians are not sure, but choose a date and stick with it). Definitely needs to go through the editing process again.
ISBN? - 9781847734297
General Subject/s? - History / Tudors
Title? - Well it does deal with his mistresses and bastards, though at least half of the book is made up of speculation that there is absolutely no historical evidence for.
General Analysis? - I never thought I'd say this, but I actually prefer Kelly Hart's The Mistresses of Henry VIII to Philippa Jones's effort, although I did feel let down by both. Jones misses out several pertinent points, and barely covers Jane Seymour at all. The sections are short and not very detailed, and she does not really thoroughly explore the primary source base, or take into account many of the secondary source arguments. In my opinion, this book would have benefited from more thorough research and a more thorough exploration of the source base. However, her writing style is interesting and engaging, and she puts across her points in a clear and concise way.
Recommend? - No, I thought Kelly Hart's attempt a little better.
General Subject/s? - History / Tudors
Title? - Well it does deal with his mistresses and bastards, though at least half of the book is made up of speculation that there is absolutely no historical evidence for.
General Analysis? - I never thought I'd say this, but I actually prefer Kelly Hart's The Mistresses of Henry VIII to Philippa Jones's effort, although I did feel let down by both. Jones misses out several pertinent points, and barely covers Jane Seymour at all. The sections are short and not very detailed, and she does not really thoroughly explore the primary source base, or take into account many of the secondary source arguments. In my opinion, this book would have benefited from more thorough research and a more thorough exploration of the source base. However, her writing style is interesting and engaging, and she puts across her points in a clear and concise way.
Recommend? - No, I thought Kelly Hart's attempt a little better.
I read to page 40, and decided to give it up. I usually don't do that but with this book, I just couldn't finish it. Phillipa Jones throws out so many dates and names, my head started spinning. I finally put it aside, and gave it up.
challenging
informative
slow-paced
Informative, but quite heavy handed in the story telling, and makes a lot of jumps back and forth
challenging
informative
slow-paced
I discovered this book while looking around the Amazon.com website. I was intrigued right from the start as I have always been fascinated with Mary Boleyn whom had been a mistress to Henry VIII before he married his second wife Anne Boleyn. I have read a little about Bessie Blount, another of Henry’s mistresses and about the son Henry Fitzroy he had with her, but had not read any more about any other mistresses or children. I was excited to get this book and dove with an open mind and was quite impressed.
Philippa Jones has a writing style that is very easy to read. Her words flow in a manner that makes the reader feel as though they are reading a story or a diary rather than a series of facts. I enjoyed the way she presented her findings, giving some information about the mistress whom had a relationship with King Henry VIII. Then if a child was born from that relationship Jones moved on to speak about the child’s life and how the King, although not always openly acknowledging the child, gave assistance and support. I also very much liked that Jones went into a great deal of depth about each child’s life, looking at their younger years, right through their lives up until their death. I felt this gave the reader a deeper understanding and knowledge about each child and the type of person that they grew up to be. It was also very fascinating to read how Henry VIII’s legitimate children, Mary, Edward and Elizabeth interacted with the adults whom may have been their half brothers or sisters. I enjoyed this as it felt as though Jones was providing an all-round image of each illegitimate child and helped the reader learn as much as possible about their lives.
There was only one small statement that I had a slight issue with and that was concerning the dates and order of the births of the Boleyn children. Jones wrote that Mary Boleyn was the oldest child, born in 1499, George was born next in 1504 and Anne was born in 1507. Jones does state that there is considerable debate about the dates and the order of the births of the Boleyn children and I have to agree with her. I have to admit that I tend to side with historian Eric Ives in the belief that Anne Boleyn was born in 1501 and George in roughly 1504, and not at the dates that Jones gives. Yet this is my only slight complaint about the book and honestly since there is debate over when the Boleyn children were born it is a very minor complaint at all!
I did like that Jones proposed that Mary Boleyn did not sleep with King Francis I during her time in France. It is a very common belief that Mary succumbed to the French King’s charms, went to his bed and for a short time became his mistress. However although this is a very common belief there is very little evidence to support this. In fact the only evidence are two letters written decades after Mary’s time in France, both of which are quite slanderous to Mary and her sister Anne. I thoroughly enjoyed the fact that Jones challenged this common belief and gave a little more credit to Mary Boleyn’s chastity.
I cannot say I completely agree with all the women Jones put forward as Mistresses to Henry VIII, nor all the children she stated were bastards of the King. Personally I just do not believe that the evidence put forward always means that the child born was a bastard of Henry VIII. There could be a multitude of reasons why Henry VIII supported the mother and child, reasons that do not have to be simply because the child was his bastard. It could even be as simple as that Henry favoured the parents of the child or they were loyal members of his court. Whatever the reasons I will say that Joneses book was a fascinating read. I think that so much of Henry VIII’s private and sexual life was carried out with such secrecy and discretion it is difficult to know the real truth about the women that he slept with. And it is even more difficult to know the truth about any children that may have been born to him out of wedlock. Especially since there was no such thing as DNA testing back in the Tudor age! History is often full of speculation and what ifs, but I do think that Philippa Jones presented detailed cases for each mistress and bastard and supported her statements with a great deal of evidence and information. What each person draws from this information is up to them.
I found this book to be an absolutely fascinating read. It was really interesting to learn more about the women and children who had a part of Henry VIII’s life. Often we only learn about Henry VIII, his six wives and the three children legitimate children that survived him. Joneses book gives the reader the opportunity to learn more than that just this. She opens up a different side of Henry VIII, a lover, a father, a man whom cared deeply about the women he was with and the children he had. This is defiantly a great book to read if you want to learn a little more about the private life of Henry VIII and the mistresses and children he had.
Philippa Jones has a writing style that is very easy to read. Her words flow in a manner that makes the reader feel as though they are reading a story or a diary rather than a series of facts. I enjoyed the way she presented her findings, giving some information about the mistress whom had a relationship with King Henry VIII. Then if a child was born from that relationship Jones moved on to speak about the child’s life and how the King, although not always openly acknowledging the child, gave assistance and support. I also very much liked that Jones went into a great deal of depth about each child’s life, looking at their younger years, right through their lives up until their death. I felt this gave the reader a deeper understanding and knowledge about each child and the type of person that they grew up to be. It was also very fascinating to read how Henry VIII’s legitimate children, Mary, Edward and Elizabeth interacted with the adults whom may have been their half brothers or sisters. I enjoyed this as it felt as though Jones was providing an all-round image of each illegitimate child and helped the reader learn as much as possible about their lives.
There was only one small statement that I had a slight issue with and that was concerning the dates and order of the births of the Boleyn children. Jones wrote that Mary Boleyn was the oldest child, born in 1499, George was born next in 1504 and Anne was born in 1507. Jones does state that there is considerable debate about the dates and the order of the births of the Boleyn children and I have to agree with her. I have to admit that I tend to side with historian Eric Ives in the belief that Anne Boleyn was born in 1501 and George in roughly 1504, and not at the dates that Jones gives. Yet this is my only slight complaint about the book and honestly since there is debate over when the Boleyn children were born it is a very minor complaint at all!
I did like that Jones proposed that Mary Boleyn did not sleep with King Francis I during her time in France. It is a very common belief that Mary succumbed to the French King’s charms, went to his bed and for a short time became his mistress. However although this is a very common belief there is very little evidence to support this. In fact the only evidence are two letters written decades after Mary’s time in France, both of which are quite slanderous to Mary and her sister Anne. I thoroughly enjoyed the fact that Jones challenged this common belief and gave a little more credit to Mary Boleyn’s chastity.
I cannot say I completely agree with all the women Jones put forward as Mistresses to Henry VIII, nor all the children she stated were bastards of the King. Personally I just do not believe that the evidence put forward always means that the child born was a bastard of Henry VIII. There could be a multitude of reasons why Henry VIII supported the mother and child, reasons that do not have to be simply because the child was his bastard. It could even be as simple as that Henry favoured the parents of the child or they were loyal members of his court. Whatever the reasons I will say that Joneses book was a fascinating read. I think that so much of Henry VIII’s private and sexual life was carried out with such secrecy and discretion it is difficult to know the real truth about the women that he slept with. And it is even more difficult to know the truth about any children that may have been born to him out of wedlock. Especially since there was no such thing as DNA testing back in the Tudor age! History is often full of speculation and what ifs, but I do think that Philippa Jones presented detailed cases for each mistress and bastard and supported her statements with a great deal of evidence and information. What each person draws from this information is up to them.
I found this book to be an absolutely fascinating read. It was really interesting to learn more about the women and children who had a part of Henry VIII’s life. Often we only learn about Henry VIII, his six wives and the three children legitimate children that survived him. Joneses book gives the reader the opportunity to learn more than that just this. She opens up a different side of Henry VIII, a lover, a father, a man whom cared deeply about the women he was with and the children he had. This is defiantly a great book to read if you want to learn a little more about the private life of Henry VIII and the mistresses and children he had.
Although there were some interesting parts, I found much of this book dull and convoluted.
This book seemed to focus more on rumors then actual fact. It was more of a "What If" scenario then anything. While I'm sure Henry VIII had illegitimate children we don't know about, I'm not sure how much this book tries to call fact. Especially when they cite Wikipedia.