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A must-read gender-critical book that initiated my switch to the "TERF" side. 

Caveat that I only made it 3/4 through this one, but by god it is insultingly bad. By the time she shoehorned in a discussion of Rachel Dolezal I was physically laughing. It is abundantly clear that she has a limited understanding of the history of race and racism in America, as her tone deaf comparisons of the oppression of women by predatory trans women to racism prove. There exists also in this work a refusal to engage with what social constructionism actually means, paradigmatic shifts in the cultural coding of dysphoria and gender nonconformity, and anthropological research. Her only admission of violence towards female-presenting AMABs is in the case of Brazilian transvestis. The middle section is also an untidy retrodding of tired gender critical talking points that could’ve used another draft and some fact-checking.

the suggestion of an evil cabal of Jewish billionaires funding gender self-ID legislation is… well, you do the math.

I am a detransitioned woman, and I do believe that there does need to be some rehauling of the way we frame biological sex, the Western transgender paradigm, and trans healthcare. A work of this nature though is best left in the hands of a cultural historian with vested sympathy for trans wellbeing. Joyce is not that person.
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I didn't get how people thought it was transphobic.

you are indeed transphobic and your book is utter garbage based on baseless fears.

The premise in this eloquent and fair argument against the erasure of women-only spaces is that the demands of transactivists are going to end up harming the rights that women have been fighting to get for decades, and consequently children in general aswell. The people who gave this a bad review haven't read it. There's is no way you could think that Helen Joyce is being hateful in any way, there's not a more reasonable exposition anywhere about this topic. Every point you could think of to "debunk" her has been address, that's why it could be a little repetitive but it is necessary. From legislative points of view, to celebrities, to normal people living their lifes who couldn't care less about any of these, to activists in favor or against, she delivers in everything.

Declaring pronouns can do only so much to reveal an inner self to everyone else. If you want everyone to accept gender-identity ideology, they must be persuaded that sexed bodies are not material, and that gender identities are.

genuinely a screed. buy it if you hate trans people and also think the jewish people run the world. 

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Very informative.

Helen Joyce is doing so much good for the LGB alliance by promoting their presence and message
(Nothing to do with the book really, but I fell into a serious YouTube Helen Joyce rabbit hole)

Mrs. Joyce is also benefiting society at large in dismantling the ideological nonsense of trans activism with her “speaking tour” on podcasts, talk shows and with the general promotion of this book.

After many read throughs I really can’t believe (even accounting for just plain bad faith) that their are still people arguing the anti-Semite angle.

Or the transphobe nonsense, which is clearly addressed on page 2 of the book “this book is not about transgender people it’s about an idea”

I love the quote about wasting time and nonsense literally being the point of the Critical Theory arguments. “Women are not clownfish”

As someone who has taken a host of university courses that are completely unrelated to any gender studies, queerness ect. Only to find this nonsense has bleed into the classes… it’s aggravating and all pervasive. Not to mention sad as these parasitic ideas pray on the vulnerable and good intentioned.

I have not found an interview with her and Jordan Peterson but I’d say she is the female equivalent (ish) I would love a panel of Collin Wright, JBP, Helen Joyce, Debrah Soh, Helen Pluckrose, and Abigail Shier. If you haven’t read their books, I highly recommend them!!!