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mjfmjfmjf's review
3.0
Huh. Well from what I've read in the other non-main Civil War II books, I expected much worse. It was a readable book with a start and an end. And did mostly make sense. But I never believed Carol making the choices she made in this book. And I don't trust Marvel to keep the changes in this book as changed. And in general this book was all plot and no real substance. So I guess it was a great big whatever. I'd much prefer they write good books rather than big books. If they had written this as a smaller book, all from the perspective of Ulysses it might have been great.
primmiiee's review
2.0
"From the creative team that brought you House of M and Siege comes a blistering first chapter in Marvel’s new explosive event." well, if only it was anywhere near HoM in terms of quality... Sure, the art is pretty, but other than that... Meh, not only did it dragged on too long (both in-universe and the actual publishing dates), it wasn't that good, the characters felt off and the dialogues were stilted, overall, not really a great read.
angrybooklady's review
2.0
Well, ummmm.....the art was pretty.
Sigh. Look, I don't have the general hatred for Bendis that some folks seem to have. I've enjoyed plenty of his work in the past. I can usually even find something I like about the work I don't enjoy. But this was some of the most awkwardly forced characterization I have seen.
Mark Millar's Civil War was far from perfect. (Sidenote: Millar's work is generally something I enjoy far less than Bendis's.) I don't think Civil War lived up to its potential in the end, but in my opinion it kept things together a lot longer than this mess. You understood why there was a divide in the superhero community in the first place. And, even after it became clear which side was supposed to be the wrong one, you could still understand why Tony was doing what he was doing.
In Civil War II, there was no reason for Carol to behave the way she did or continue down the path she was on. I could almost buy it in the beginning, even though arresting people for stuff they might do is way more cut and dry than the Superhero Registration Act. Carol wasn't working with a lot of moral ambiguity to begin with. But Carol is a good person and was doing it for the right reasons, even if it was a terrible idea. But after it became obvious it was a terrible idea and was impossible to defend, Carol still stuck with it! Why?
I'm pretty sure the answer to that question is that The Powers That Be at Marvel decided: "Hey, we have a summer blockbuster called Civil War, that resembles Millar's story if you squint really hard. We should have a new Civil War event to sell more books! Get Bendis to shit out something as fast as he can!" This is the new Marvel, apparently, where we structure our comic universe around the Cinematic Universe and screw the fans who don't like it, I guess.
I'm not trying to be that person who accuses movie fans of not reading the source material or whatever it is those fake geek boys do. If a fan only wants to watch RDJ play Iron Man and couldn't care less about what's happening in the comics, that's fine. I genuinely hope they enjoy the films, because there's a lot to enjoy. But if Marvel could stop shoving comic fans aside for their next iteration of Blatant Movie Advertising: A Marvel Event, that would be great.
Sigh. Look, I don't have the general hatred for Bendis that some folks seem to have. I've enjoyed plenty of his work in the past. I can usually even find something I like about the work I don't enjoy. But this was some of the most awkwardly forced characterization I have seen.
Mark Millar's Civil War was far from perfect. (Sidenote: Millar's work is generally something I enjoy far less than Bendis's.) I don't think Civil War lived up to its potential in the end, but in my opinion it kept things together a lot longer than this mess. You understood why there was a divide in the superhero community in the first place. And, even after it became clear which side was supposed to be the wrong one, you could still understand why Tony was doing what he was doing.
In Civil War II, there was no reason for Carol to behave the way she did or continue down the path she was on. I could almost buy it in the beginning, even though arresting people for stuff they might do is way more cut and dry than the Superhero Registration Act. Carol wasn't working with a lot of moral ambiguity to begin with. But Carol is a good person and was doing it for the right reasons, even if it was a terrible idea. But after it became obvious it was a terrible idea and was impossible to defend, Carol still stuck with it! Why?
I'm pretty sure the answer to that question is that The Powers That Be at Marvel decided: "Hey, we have a summer blockbuster called Civil War, that resembles Millar's story if you squint really hard. We should have a new Civil War event to sell more books! Get Bendis to shit out something as fast as he can!" This is the new Marvel, apparently, where we structure our comic universe around the Cinematic Universe and screw the fans who don't like it, I guess.
I'm not trying to be that person who accuses movie fans of not reading the source material or whatever it is those fake geek boys do. If a fan only wants to watch RDJ play Iron Man and couldn't care less about what's happening in the comics, that's fine. I genuinely hope they enjoy the films, because there's a lot to enjoy. But if Marvel could stop shoving comic fans aside for their next iteration of Blatant Movie Advertising: A Marvel Event, that would be great.
kazalicious's review
4.0
A great mirror to Civil War with interesting philosophical and moral grey areas for the readers to side with.
cleheny's review
1.0
I didn't enjoy Civil War, but this is far worse. I'm not very familiar with Carol Danvers, and this series definitely does not make me interested in learning more. She's a fascist, willing to lock people up, all on the say of a teenage kid who has suddenly developed prophetic abilities that are completely untested and which he doesn't understand. And, when testing is done, and it shows that he sees possible futures, she still wants to lock people up on the basis of the vision alone, without any evidence, and even though multiple people have already died because she relied on these visions.
And then there's Tony Stark, who I have never liked and who played the fascist role in the original Civil War. This time, he's furious at Carol but it seems less out of principle than out of grief. And, instead of approaching the Inhumans and asking if they could test Ulysses' powers, he provokes an international incident by kidnapping the kid, running brain scans to which the kid didn't consent, and then causing the kid pain as part of the experiment. Hoo boy.
The greatest disappointment at the end of Civil War II is that Carol and Tony didn't kill each other, which would have put almost everyone else out of their misery.
And then there's Tony Stark, who I have never liked and who played the fascist role in the original Civil War. This time, he's furious at Carol but it seems less out of principle than out of grief. And, instead of approaching the Inhumans and asking if they could test Ulysses' powers, he provokes an international incident by kidnapping the kid, running brain scans to which the kid didn't consent, and then causing the kid pain as part of the experiment. Hoo boy.
The greatest disappointment at the end of Civil War II is that Carol and Tony didn't kill each other, which would have put almost everyone else out of their misery.
earlapvaldez's review
3.0
In a few words: conflict of Civil War II, made less emotional and heartbreaking, within something like a Minority Report storyline. Also, Danvers and Stark are not exactly on the same ground when it comes to this conflict.
What saves this series, however, is the fact that Marvel was able to bring all characters together dynamically, as we are able to see all sides of what is happening in this war. It's not that disappointing, but it's not satisfying, either.
What saves this series, however, is the fact that Marvel was able to bring all characters together dynamically, as we are able to see all sides of what is happening in this war. It's not that disappointing, but it's not satisfying, either.
meliemelo's review
3.0
(2.5/5)
Not as bad as it could have been. The idiot ball does get thrown around, and the characterisation is often twisted to fill the story's needs, but I guess it could have been much worse, and some moments were actually kinda nice? The art was pretty nice too.
I'm really, really over that whole "heroes fighting each other" thing, though. Oh, and Marvel's recent bullshit with Nazi!Cap and Secret Empire made me unable to appreciate Steve's moments in this volume, which is really, really sad.
So, all in all: probably quite forgettable in the long haul, feels a bit empty, but a few good ideas here and there. And I guess I was really expecting something bad, which is why I was, in a way, pleasantly surprised.
Not as bad as it could have been. The idiot ball does get thrown around, and the characterisation is often twisted to fill the story's needs, but I guess it could have been much worse, and some moments were actually kinda nice? The art was pretty nice too.
I'm really, really over that whole "heroes fighting each other" thing, though. Oh, and Marvel's recent bullshit with Nazi!Cap and Secret Empire made me unable to appreciate Steve's moments in this volume, which is really, really sad.
So, all in all: probably quite forgettable in the long haul, feels a bit empty, but a few good ideas here and there. And I guess I was really expecting something bad, which is why I was, in a way, pleasantly surprised.
havesomeshawarma's review
5.0
Everybody except Steve and Miles are giant idiots, but I love them and the art was gorgeous and now I understand what's been going on for the last five years.