trilobiter's review against another edition

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2.0

I am enough of a romanticist to buy Denby's central point, that the "great books" of Western Literature are valuable for aesthetic and instructive reasons. Indeed, when describing his response to the classic authors in those terms, the writing is fun and enjoyable.

Unfortunately, there is more to this book. Much of it is devoted to Denby's social/political commentary, which might best be described as the ultimate middle class white man's perspective on the culture wars of the 1990s. Not all of it is face-slappingly offensive, and he goes out of his way to present the views he disagrees with. But it is one thing to tweak a few post-modernist academics (everyone knows they're full of shit). It is another thing to quote (paraphrase?) a black student's passionate outburst about representation in the university, and then patronizingly wonder for the rest of the book why she is so wrong. Denby's most consistent error is to ridicule the notion that representation matters in the media or in academia.

The worst chapter by far is his reaction to Simone de Beauvoir, where he riffs extensively on "Take Back the Night." Denby listens to the stories of the women who have sufferred rape, and wonders why the ones who come back year after year can never "get over it". He tries to put himself in their shoes, and the furthest he can get is to reminisce (for a second time) about that one time he got mugged. He seems to think that sexual violence is some sort of cultural misunderstanding that might be addressed by rereading The Decameron. Even when he admits to feeling like a creepy uncle, you can't escape the sense that he is utterly, deeply clueless.

Stupid politics, a few good anecdotes, and possibly some reading recommendations. That's what Great Books has to offer. It worked for me in high school, but it's not my thing anymore.

cbking's review against another edition

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I am embarrassed to say that I could not get through more than 50 pages of this book. I was really intrigued by the premise, but it just didn't do it for me. In addition, I started to feel guilty that I hadn't read a number of the source texts -- perhaps if I were more familiar with the texts, Denby's analysis would be more rewarding.

ericwelch's review against another edition

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5.0

At age forty-eight, Denby, a theatre critic for New York magazine, decided to return to Columbia University and retake two courses, Literature of the Humanities and Contemporary Civilization, both required of all Columbia graduates. His motivation was to force himself to read through the "entire shelf," not to rediscover his youth, " most overpraised time of life," but to get a second chance at school. He was " of not really knowing anything." The result is a fascinating intellectual journey through the Western canon. "Obviously, it wasn't just the learning that excited me, but the idea of reading the big books, the promise of enlargement, the adventure of strangeness. Reading has within it a collector's passion, the desire to possess . . . ."

Perhaps Western only in name, for as Denby points out in the first essay on the Iliad, the great Homeric poem hardly represents the culture as we understand it. The Greeks and their enemies had very different sets of values from those we profess to adhere to today. Plato, too, is hardly harmless and contains much that should be offensive and repugnant to our moralistic and self-righteous religious bigots who suppress Harry Potter books while ostensibly celebrating the "" The Republic has been the source of considerable antidemocratic theory, not to mention collectivized agriculture and eugenics, superior strains of individuals being used for the breeding of superior offspring. As an adult, Denby is struck by how harmful many of these ideas could be, Plato' goals requiring a " of self-suppression that we would find intolerable." Of course, when Plato wrote, Greece was falling apart. How could people disagree so violently when they share so much in common, emotions in particular: " pleasure, sorrow, exaltation." What Plato recognized, and was trying to prevent, was that when people have different interests, a difference in property or loyalty, the state disintegrates. The valuable core is Plato' realization that unity is required, and unity comes from everyone working as part of a common " organism," that shares a common art and culture and a political system that is viewed as working for the benefit of the people. All newly appointed faculty in humanities and social sciences are expected to teach one of the sections, but not everyone does so willingly.

Denby interviewed Siobhan Kilfeather, who had arrived with a Ph.D. from Princeton. She had a particularly strong interest in Irish literature and believed that nothing but works originally written in English should be taught; she was incensed that Irish writers had been considered English writers. It was her contention that the whole idea of a "canon" was nonsensical, and that such a contrivance took all of the works out of "context," that no argument was ever made in a vacuum and students would never understand Jane Austen unless they had read Fielding and Richardson first; that students did not have the requisite reading skills and would never appreciate the beauty of the language so what was the point. Denby countered her arguments quite well, I thought, noting that when the books were originally written and read there was no "context" as Kilfeather defined it, and that the whole notion of context "was an academic rather than a literary or reader demand -- an insistence on orderly exposition of influences and roots and so on, all of which had more to do with controlling the presentation of books in courses than with anyone's pleasure in reading them. . . .Readers! That's what undergraduate education should be producing. Kilfeather made the classic error of the academic left: She confused literary study (and her own professional interests) with reading itself." Kilfeather's basic argument seemed to boil down to: "They haven't been educated properly; therefore, let's not educate them properly." Denby decided to take the final exam with the students. It's a moment that provoked extraordinary fear in him, and despite his previous commitment not to, he couldn' help cramming. "Being examined is one of the things you become an adult to avoid. Once you pass twentyfive, you learn how to cover your weaknesses and ignorance and lead with your strengths. Every adult, by definition, is a corner-cutting phony; experience teaches you what to attend to and what to slough off, when to rest and when to go all out. . . .Taking an exam is the grown-up's classic anxiety dream." Afterwards he required a beta blocker, some alcohol, and "two fingers of Nyquil." This is really one of the most interesting books I have read in a long time, a sort of personalized intellectual romp through the Western intellectual tradition. I cannot recommend it enough.

An anecdote: Sidney Morgenbesser, professor of philosophy at Columbia, was smoking in the subway. A transit cop came up to the professor and demanded that he put out his pipe. "What if everyone smoked? the cop said reprovingly. "Who are you -- Kant?" the irritated professor asked, whereupon the policeman, misunderstanding "Kant" as something else, hauled Sidney Morgenbesser off to the precinct house.

eralon's review against another edition

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3.0

This book lists many classics, some that I've previously read, and some that I stopped to read before continuing with Denby. The commentary on the books is not amazing and veers off into memoir, but it's motivational and gives it the feeling of actually attending the class. Overall, I really enjoyed it.

First Semester:
Chapter 1- [b:The Iliad|1371|The Iliad|Homer|https://images.gr-assets.com/books/1388188509s/1371.jpg|3293141] by Homer (read previously)
Chapter 2- The Poetry fragments of Sappho (read 2018)
Chapter 3 & 5- [b:The Republic|30289|The Republic|Plato|https://images.gr-assets.com/books/1386925655s/30289.jpg|1625515] of Plato (also read [b:Apology|73945|Apology|Plato|https://images.gr-assets.com/books/1212606317s/73945.jpg|1692879], [b:Meno|846122|Meno|Plato|https://images.gr-assets.com/books/1415425069s/846122.jpg|140111], and [b:Euthyphro|811970|Euthyphro|Plato|https://images.gr-assets.com/books/1347516561s/811970.jpg|797907] 2018)
Chapter 4- [b:The Odyssey|1381|The Odyssey|Homer|https://images.gr-assets.com/books/1390173285s/1381.jpg|3356006] by Homer (read previously)
Chapter 6- [b:Oedipus Rex|1554|Oedipus Rex (The Theban Plays, #1)|Sophocles|https://images.gr-assets.com/books/1388182316s/1554.jpg|3098166] (read 2018)
Chapter 7- [b:The Nicomachean Ethics|19068|The Nicomachean Ethics|Aristotle|https://images.gr-assets.com/books/1520339295s/19068.jpg|2919427], [b:Poetics|13270|Poetics|Aristotle|https://images.gr-assets.com/books/1520340549s/13270.jpg|2301058], and [b:Politics|19083|Politics|Aristotle|https://images.gr-assets.com/books/1391135988s/19083.jpg|14746717] by Aristotle- not yet
Chapter 8- [b:The Oresteia|1519|The Oresteia Agamemnon, The Libation Bearers, The Eumenides|Aeschylus|https://images.gr-assets.com/books/1391822282s/1519.jpg|2378] and [b:Prometheus Bound|297593|Prometheus Bound|Aeschylus|https://images.gr-assets.com/books/1407894339s/297593.jpg|1156090] by Aeschylus (read 2018)
[b:The Bacchae|380609|The Bacchae|Euripides|https://images.gr-assets.com/books/1328704140s/380609.jpg|1842204] and [b:Medea|752900|Medea|Euripides|https://images.gr-assets.com/books/1328868366s/752900.jpg|2936587] by Euripides- in progress
Chapter 9- [b:The Aeneid|12914|The Aeneid|Virgil|https://images.gr-assets.com/books/1386923968s/12914.jpg|288738] by Virgil - previously read
Chapter 10/11- [b:Holy Bible: New International Version|280111|Holy Bible New International Version|Anonymous|https://images.gr-assets.com/books/1382581321s/280111.jpg|19119100] (read 2017)
Chapter 12- [b:Confessions|27037|Confessions|Augustine of Hippo|https://images.gr-assets.com/books/1266454051s/27037.jpg|1427207] by Augustine (read 2018)
[b:City of God|25673|City of God|Augustine of Hippo|https://images.gr-assets.com/books/1539435514s/25673.jpg|5814]- not yet
Chapter 13- [b:The Prince|28862|The Prince|Niccolò Machiavelli|https://images.gr-assets.com/books/1390055828s/28862.jpg|1335445] and [b:The Discourses|99328|The Discourses|Niccolò Machiavelli|https://images.gr-assets.com/books/1520802947s/99328.jpg|162187] by Machiavelli

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zsofia's review against another edition

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3.0

I enjoyed his work on the books themselves immensely. I found his commentary on issues with the concept of the canon and within it intellectually lazy and, in his chapter on feminism and rape culture, actively odious.

nicholasbobbitt1997's review against another edition

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3.0

Denby interacts well with the texts, explaining his mission and his reasons for completing it well.
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