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Babel by R.F. Kuang

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peachmoni's review against another edition

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challenging emotional inspiring slow-paced

Plot- or character-driven? A mix
Strong character development? Yes
Loveable characters? Yes
Diverse cast of characters? Yes
Flaws of characters a main focus? No

4.5

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cursed10fold's review against another edition

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dark emotional reflective slow-paced

Plot- or character-driven? A mix
Strong character development? It's complicated
Loveable characters? It's complicated
Diverse cast of characters? Yes
Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes

1.0

This book was quite a bit too long for what story was there. It feels like it should have been heavily edited so that the author could put more focus on the best parts of the story. Or if the author didn't feel like any parts could have been dropped, it should have been two books so that the poorly focused parts could have been explored more thoroughly.

For example, I was disappointed with how the women were handled in the story. In real-life Victorian England, less than half of women could read at all (much less go to university) so I thought that there would be interesting angles to explore as two main characters were women and students but the issue of sexism wasn't really explored beyond a few token mentions even though it was raised by the narrative. The more important of the two characters (whose POV comes at the very end as a sequel hook) didn't really get any focus until quite late in the story even though she was in most scenes throughout the book.

The author also adds a gay romance(?) which would be interesting to explore except that it happens so little that I forgot it was even a plot until the end of the book which leaves me wondering why it wasn't edited to either give it the time and breathing room it deserves (as it could have added a lot of depth to the two other characters in the core four) or removed to tighten up the main plot.

Lastly, I thought the anachronisms were jarring and distracting. One character is fairly modern for the most part (even speaking like someone from the 2020s/using modern terms like "narco-military state") but then goes back to blaming a woman for being sexually harassed with her friend by drunk men at a party. He blames her for suggesting going to the party in the first place and putting herself and her friend in danger instead of the men for harassing the two of them. When she brings up that she was almost assaulted too the narrator calls it "a bizarre line of argument". The way that scene was handled put a really bad taste in my mouth and I almost DNF-ed there. I kept going as I was hoping it would be used as a learning opportunity but it never comes up again and the character that blames her is treated as one of the most likeable characters by the story. I get that his attitude would have been common for the time but for that to be the one thing that's time-period accurate in how he speaks seems to be a really strange choice given that the narrative doesn't examine it or challenge him in any way. There are quite a few other unchallenged sexist remarks/tropes used throughout the story.

The stuff I did like was the first book/section; it was a good set up for the story and the racism/attitudes of Prof. Lovell and his colleagues was very well done and fairly accurate to real-life Victorian academic figures (check out some of the real figures that worked with King Leopold II). I also liked the magic system and wish there was more of it. Also some people were complaining about the slow pace but I actually liked the atmospheric descriptions in the early story. This book was ultimately very disappointing given that it had a relatively strong start and a very rushed/disjointed ending.

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melodyseestrees's review against another edition

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challenging dark emotional slow-paced

Plot- or character-driven? A mix
Strong character development? Yes
Loveable characters? It's complicated
Diverse cast of characters? Yes
Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes

4.5

If you put aside all the magical elements you have a bunch of realistic characters and many are vile. You may see your own decision making reflected in certain characters. For example choosing to not take actions in order to keep oneself comfortable despite what effect that has on unprivileged people. This is no [Child Wizard Series] book so if you go in expecting the 'good people are good because the author says so' treatment you will find the characters disappointing.

The character arc of Letty choosing to take actions that doom her supposed close friends because her idea of protecting them is to chain them into a life that is comfortable for her while refusing to accept that society prevents them from being able to live that life. I think Letty will be a very aggravating character for many but she embodies 'white woman tears.'

There are several characters that I wish had been explored more

Griffin and his group, Ramy, Victoire. Victoire and Anthony feel almost like the 'magical negro' stereotype since one doesn't really do much (until we need the conflict of 3 of the friends secretly being in the same rebel group without telling each other) and the other going on to take action after everyone else is no longer able to.

It also would have been interesting to see the effects Britain was having on other places in addition to China, which may have helped cement each of our four main characters' motivations a bit better. We know explicitly that Robin and Ramy want to help their homelands but Victoire is a little unclear and Letty is Letty.
There is a really great quote about Letty and how her upbringing shapes her world:

"And Letty, if she could not belong to a place, would rather tear the whole thing down. "

This is a really great demonstration of who Letty is as a person. Her privilege is so blinding she refuses to accept the path her friends are taking and ultimately kills Ramy to protect him. She literally destroys, betrays, and tries to manipulate her friends in order to prevent changes that would be uncomfortable for her in particular and Britain in general. She does not care about China or its people so long as the silver it contains can be acquired and used by Britain. She thinks her friends should be grateful and do whatever they need to so they may stay in Britain and not care about the homelands they were (literally) stolen from because Britain is HER homeland and it could become their homeland if they work/pretend hard enough.

I have Opinions about Letty and disturbingly have seen some of her arguably worst behaviors in myself and others when asked to boycott certain products or block certain 'beloved' persons.
The ending was unsatisfactory because of the epilogue.

It is set up for two people to have a conflict in the spirit of Javert and Jean Valjean. One is on a quest to see how big the rebel group is and the other is seeming back to their comfortable life after all the events.

The actions involving the tower would have felt empty without it however. Babel is set up to have a sequel but the author has been reported to have no interest in writing a sequel or any other book in the Babel universe so that setup just becomes loose ends. The audiobook handles the footnotes very well and the reading experience is best enjoyed by listening and reading simultaneously.

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penofpossibilities's review

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challenging dark emotional informative mysterious slow-paced

Plot- or character-driven? Character
Loveable characters? No
Diverse cast of characters? Yes
Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes

3.0

the first half was incredibly slow paced and at times a drag to get through. If it wasn't for some long train rides with nothing better to do, I would've taken much longer to finish. The last quarter or so was really exciting though! I even got emotional and started crying near the end.

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tbd24's review

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adventurous challenging dark emotional sad tense medium-paced

Plot- or character-driven? A mix
Strong character development? Yes
Loveable characters? Yes
Diverse cast of characters? Yes
Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes

4.75

this book was my niche exactly so I feel a little biased but I liked it a lot. The writing was very good and evocative, I found myself literally gasping aloud or beginning to sweat during tense parts of the book. Very good character writing and development, though I was a little disappointed

Rami and Robin were only ever subtext, I would have been a bit more satisfied if they had a proper conversation about it, even once, especially since they were gonna die in the end anyway so what did the author have to lose. I feel like the reason it was never explicit is because the author didn’t know how to write a conversation like that and still keep the historical realism, though others have done this well. idk, it just disappointed me

. Overall, the only reason this was not a five star read for me was the pacing was a little bit too sporadic for my taste. There were drawn out moments that I wish had been shorter and quick fly by scenes that I wish we could have relished in. But other than that, loved it, and will defs read again

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