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albertico66's review
4.0
Strong work, especially in the first half of the collection. The second half of the collections is a bunch of fillers with a few pages on the Murderer arc. Very enjoyable.
bulldogfront's review
4.0
fun crossover, obviously unnecessarily long but a very fun time, a bright spot in my exploration of early 2000's batman.
the bat fam tie in issues were mostly all good, especially the robin and birds of prey stuff. not a fan of cop nightwing tho
the bat fam tie in issues were mostly all good, especially the robin and birds of prey stuff. not a fan of cop nightwing tho
newbarrel's review
adventurous
dark
mysterious
sad
medium-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? Plot
- Strong character development? No
- Loveable characters? Yes
- Diverse cast of characters? No
- Flaws of characters a main focus? No
3.75
tmwebb3's review
4.0
Super Batman premise, really good hook. This thing had some problems though. Too many issues in this collection have nothing to do with the main plot. Art shoddy in spots. Overstuffed. Issues about Batman were kind of weak, but a good showcase for the large extended Bat family.
perses's review
adventurous
dark
emotional
mysterious
reflective
tense
slow-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? It's complicated
- Loveable characters? Yes
- Diverse cast of characters? It's complicated
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
4.0
It's collected badly
captain_katherine's review
adventurous
mysterious
tense
fast-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? It's complicated
- Loveable characters? Yes
- Diverse cast of characters? Yes
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
3.25
andrewb626's review against another edition
adventurous
fast-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? It's complicated
- Loveable characters? It's complicated
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
2.0
Interesting moments, like when talking to the old detective, but the ending was wholly unsatisfying and the action scenes were a bit hard to follow
rashthedoctor's review
4.0
You can see a more Vivid Review of this book on my Blog at - https://ablogaboutbook.wordpress.com/2017/01/15/graphic-novel-review-batmanbruce-waynemurdererbatman-bruce-waynefugitive-part-1/
while not a new concept , after all a similar story was done with Dick Grayson just few months before release of this one . This effort however excels where the efforts of Nightwing failed, because of the mystery created and executed .
For majority of the book , the author succeeds in creating a doubt among the readers , they are made to question whether Bruce Wayne is actually the culprit . This is done masterfully as even before this story-line Bruce had shown many signs of making erratic decisions something that led to his own alienation from nearly every asssociate he ever had .
Meanwhile the whole Bat-family* seems to be convinced that maybe Batman has actually done it and even Bruce , in a prison , refuses to accept or deny the responsibility of the crime . This result in a strained relationship between the Bat-family.
*except Dick Grayson
The paperback also consisted of other side stories involving Nightwing, Birds of Prey , Red Robin , Spoiler etc . and each story was related to the mystery of the Murder conviction of Bruce Wayne and at the same time managed to stay on its own as a good stand alone story .
Easy - The art !
The sketches and coloring was one of the worst I have ever seen , Part of the reason is that the story was told via 8 different titles , ergo While some issues had artists who managed decent artwork ,others had absolutely horrible ones , specially the ones working on Nightwing & Birds of Prey .
Despite the very inconsistent and plain Bad Art work , the Story is intense and keeps you guessing . The story obviously didn't reveal whether or not Bruce has actually done it but it made a very interesting scenario where even the hardest of hardcore fans will start questioning whether Bruce is innocent and not to forget the marvelous display of the strained relationships between various members of the Bat-family . In my honest opinion this is a must read for Batman fans at least
Book Details :
Set following the events of No Man's Land and soon after Batman being abandoned by Alfred, Barbara, Tim and Death of Jason and Jim Gordon being in a coma following a misadventure during his time with Batman.Batman now , has become even more grim than he ever was , dealing justice to the scum of Gotham with very little after thought . Batman now wants to work as alone as he can , he's not however alone as a new partner supports him , maybe even loves him . But one night Bruce Wayne is found standing near the dead body of Vesper Fairchild , his ex-girlfriend , he has the murder weapon in his hands and police have a 911 call that incriminates Bruce . Has Bruce finally crossed the line? has he done it?
What I liked :
while not a new concept , after all a similar story was done with Dick Grayson just few months before release of this one . This effort however excels where the efforts of Nightwing failed, because of the mystery created and executed .
For majority of the book , the author succeeds in creating a doubt among the readers , they are made to question whether Bruce Wayne is actually the culprit . This is done masterfully as even before this story-line Bruce had shown many signs of making erratic decisions something that led to his own alienation from nearly every asssociate he ever had .
Meanwhile the whole Bat-family* seems to be convinced that maybe Batman has actually done it and even Bruce , in a prison , refuses to accept or deny the responsibility of the crime . This result in a strained relationship between the Bat-family.
*except Dick Grayson
The paperback also consisted of other side stories involving Nightwing, Birds of Prey , Red Robin , Spoiler etc . and each story was related to the mystery of the Murder conviction of Bruce Wayne and at the same time managed to stay on its own as a good stand alone story .
What I didn't like :
Easy - The art !
The sketches and coloring was one of the worst I have ever seen , Part of the reason is that the story was told via 8 different titles , ergo While some issues had artists who managed decent artwork ,others had absolutely horrible ones , specially the ones working on Nightwing & Birds of Prey .
Conclusion :
Despite the very inconsistent and plain Bad Art work , the Story is intense and keeps you guessing . The story obviously didn't reveal whether or not Bruce has actually done it but it made a very interesting scenario where even the hardest of hardcore fans will start questioning whether Bruce is innocent and not to forget the marvelous display of the strained relationships between various members of the Bat-family . In my honest opinion this is a must read for Batman fans at least
puppy_eyes's review
4.0
First of all, this book is huge, I'm talking over 600 pages. That's the size of Harry Potter books, lol. I certainly was not expecting that, but I was delighted to feel like I was getting my money's worth. To compare the size of most normal volumes, I grabbed a random Volume (Red Hood and the Outlaws Vol 2.) and held it side by side.
You could fit years of volume runs in the size of this book! But now, more importantly, is this maybe should have been cut down to 300-400 pages? I love, loved the arc, especially with Nightwing using his 'officer Grayson' persona to help investigate, but there was just so much that has nothing to do with the main arc included in it, I started skimming the last few 100 pages, where it actually started to matter.
I understand why some of it couldn't have been taken out, because when you flip the page, dialogue from the previous scene was on the new page, and without the context of the previous scene, it wouldn't make sense. But some of it could have been taken out and the book would lose nothing for it. Instead of it being just the 'arc,' it was more like 'every single thing going on from the start until we finish it.'
For me, I would've been fine with cutting out the random crime fighting like because those belong in their own character's volumes. I couldn't help but wonder why they just didn't include the parts that actually cut to or were involved in the actual investigation.
Mostly because it's jarring, when a scene starts, and then it gets cut off to another scene. Later on, you see the same characters show up again, but the previous scene that started was finished 'off screen' without explaining what happened when it didn't even need to be started in the first place.
The thing I remember being most shocked by when I first read it, was the idea that "Bruce Wayne" is Batman's mask. That always stuck with me for a long time. That his mind is just so... compartmentalized to the point where he has to cope in this mental way, and it's remarkably fascinating.
But it was interesting just as much, how they tried to plead to the "Bruce" side of him by reminding him of his connections. Dick saying, "Well then who was I raised by if it isn't Bruce Wayne?" or Doctor Leslie, who said that Batman couldn't help with all her lack of equipment, but "Bruce Wayne" could. That made him think for a second, since he had promised before to devote his wealth to help do more good, but throwing away his "Bruce Wayne" by saying he doesn't exist anymore makes all of that obsolete.
I also love how each of the people closest to him disagreed over the possibility that he could ever kill someone. They all handle it in their own way. Tim is doubtful, because he's not as close to Bruce as Dick is, and Barbara tries to explain to Dick when he gets upset that Tim is doubting him. From an outside angle, it would look like what it looks like. Dick is 100% sure, but Tim knows he'd say that no matter what, because it's blind loyalty. He's been drilled with the concept since his time as Robin, that Batman might as well be a God to him. I felt like cheering him on when he was trying so hard to investigate his way through the documents and evidence to clear Bruce's name, his determination really shows here. He was so upset when Bruce was pushing him away and refusing his help, and even hinted at blaming himself for being away so long to work in Bludhaven. "I don't think I'll ever make him happy." But while Dick is the heart, Barbara, meanwhile as the head, tries to stay neutral, and use the physical evidence to get to the bottom of it.
She would have made a great lawyer, if Bruce hadn't pushed her away from it. This upset her, and I could understand why. I think it's a little hilarious that Bruce Wayne goes to jail, and then in 'also big news: Batman disappears.' like no one can make this connection.
And what about the bodyguard? She disappears from the story during the later half, but even after Bruce breaks out, he doesn't go back to try and rescue her. I get that he won't bother trying to clear his name because he seems upset that anyone would think he'd break his own rules, but the worry he puts on Alfred seems unjust too.
I just wished that they'd skip the random crime, the checkmate case, the drug case, the nicodemus case, all those side cases, and just focus on the investigation. Still though, glad to get my money's worth in a thick volume.
I did crack up on one line. How embarrassing to stand there and listen to this!
You could fit years of volume runs in the size of this book! But now, more importantly, is this maybe should have been cut down to 300-400 pages? I love, loved the arc, especially with Nightwing using his 'officer Grayson' persona to help investigate, but there was just so much that has nothing to do with the main arc included in it, I started skimming the last few 100 pages, where it actually started to matter.
I understand why some of it couldn't have been taken out, because when you flip the page, dialogue from the previous scene was on the new page, and without the context of the previous scene, it wouldn't make sense. But some of it could have been taken out and the book would lose nothing for it. Instead of it being just the 'arc,' it was more like 'every single thing going on from the start until we finish it.'
For me, I would've been fine with cutting out the random crime fighting like
Spoiler
tim saving his classmate, or Ted Kord's company drama, or Spoiler's family fight, or the bludhaven jailbreakMostly because it's jarring, when a scene starts, and then it gets cut off to another scene. Later on, you see the same characters show up again, but the previous scene that started was finished 'off screen' without explaining what happened when it didn't even need to be started in the first place.
The thing I remember being most shocked by when I first read it, was the idea that "Bruce Wayne" is Batman's mask. That always stuck with me for a long time. That his mind is just so... compartmentalized to the point where he has to cope in this mental way, and it's remarkably fascinating.
But it was interesting just as much, how they tried to plead to the "Bruce" side of him by reminding him of his connections. Dick saying, "Well then who was I raised by if it isn't Bruce Wayne?" or Doctor Leslie, who said that Batman couldn't help with all her lack of equipment, but "Bruce Wayne" could. That made him think for a second, since he had promised before to devote his wealth to help do more good, but throwing away his "Bruce Wayne" by saying he doesn't exist anymore makes all of that obsolete.
I also love how each of the people closest to him disagreed over the possibility that he could ever kill someone. They all handle it in their own way. Tim is doubtful, because he's not as close to Bruce as Dick is, and Barbara tries to explain to Dick when he gets upset that Tim is doubting him. From an outside angle, it would look like what it looks like. Dick is 100% sure, but Tim knows he'd say that no matter what, because it's blind loyalty. He's been drilled with the concept since his time as Robin, that Batman might as well be a God to him. I felt like cheering him on when he was trying so hard to investigate his way through the documents and evidence to clear Bruce's name, his determination really shows here. He was so upset when Bruce was pushing him away and refusing his help, and even hinted at blaming himself for being away so long to work in Bludhaven. "I don't think I'll ever make him happy." But while Dick is the heart, Barbara, meanwhile as the head, tries to stay neutral, and use the physical evidence to get to the bottom of it.
She would have made a great lawyer, if Bruce hadn't pushed her away from it. This upset her, and I could understand why. I think it's a little hilarious that Bruce Wayne goes to jail, and then in 'also big news: Batman disappears.' like no one can make this connection.
And what about the bodyguard? She disappears from the story during the later half, but even after Bruce breaks out, he doesn't go back to try and rescue her. I get that he won't bother trying to clear his name because he seems upset that anyone would think he'd break his own rules, but the worry he puts on Alfred seems unjust too.
I just wished that they'd skip the random crime, the checkmate case, the drug case, the nicodemus case, all those side cases, and just focus on the investigation. Still though, glad to get my money's worth in a thick volume.
I did crack up on one line. How embarrassing to stand there and listen to this!