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huntress's review against another edition
adventurous
dark
tense
slow-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? Character
- Strong character development? It's complicated
- Loveable characters? No
- Diverse cast of characters? Yes
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
2.25
Content Warnings
Moderate: Forced institutionalization, Confinement, Gaslighting, Fatphobia, Bullying, and Emotional abuse
Minor: Murder, Bullying, Domestic abuse, Gaslighting, Violence, Emotional abuse, War, Alcoholism, Death, and Suicide attempt
ellanarose's review against another edition
dark
emotional
reflective
medium-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? Yes
- Diverse cast of characters? Yes
- Flaws of characters a main focus? It's complicated
5.0
Content Warnings
Moderate: Torture, Child abuse, Body shaming, Eating disorder, Emotional abuse, Suicidal thoughts, Confinement, Fatphobia, Violence, Body horror, and Bullying
Minor: Suicide attempt and Child death
yvo_about_books's review against another edition
4.25
Finished reading: December 29th 2023
"Sometimes you don't need a key,' said Sumi. Her smile verged on feral. 'Sometimes a crowbar is good enough."
It's been a while since I last visited this series, and when I spotted it the other day I decided to add it to my priority TBR on a whim. I usually have an excellent time with the Wayward Children books, so I hoped it was going to be an excellent way to end the year... And Where The Drowned Girls Go has definitely helped me remember me why I love this series! Sure, there isn't as much magic going on this time around, but the whimsical vibe is still there and Cora's story is such an important one. A little warning is in place as this sequel has minor spoilers for the previous books, and you might not understand the full scope of the situation if you haven't read them yet... Although it can still be read quite easily if you (like myself) don't remember all the details. I loved learning more about the Whitethorn Institute, and it was interesting to see the different approaches. There are so many important topics and hidden messages incorporated, and I could really appreciate how the story shows that it is okay to be yourself and stand up for what you believe. I'm looking forward to continue the series in 2024!
Content Warnings
Graphic: Bullying, Gaslighting, Violence, Confinement, Forced institutionalization, Ableism, Body shaming, Child abuse, Death, Grief, Mental illness, Self harm, Abandonment, Emotional abuse, Eating disorder, Fatphobia, Panic attacks/disorders, Suicidal thoughts, and Suicide attempt
archaicgambit's review against another edition
adventurous
dark
fast-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? Yes
- Diverse cast of characters? Yes
- Flaws of characters a main focus? It's complicated
4.75
I really liked this addition to the wayward children series!! The white thorn institute was a really interesting place and I’m excited for it to come into play again. The only reason it’s not 5 stars is I sort of wish everything was just one beat slower. A lot of the wayward children books masterfully fit the space of a shorter novel while feeling really full. I felt like this book could’ve used another 30 pages to get to know the new girls? I dunno! Still loved it.
Content Warnings
Graphic: Fatphobia and Violence
Minor: Suicidal thoughts
readandfindout's review against another edition
adventurous
dark
medium-paced
- Diverse cast of characters? Yes
3.75
Style/writing: 4 stars
Themes: 3.5 stars
Characters: 3.5 stars
Plot: 3.5 stars
Worldbuilding: 4 stars
Themes: 3.5 stars
Characters: 3.5 stars
Plot: 3.5 stars
Worldbuilding: 4 stars
Content Warnings
Graphic: Forced institutionalization, Suicidal thoughts, Bullying, Gaslighting, Fatphobia, Body shaming, Child abuse, and Emotional abuse
Moderate: Suicide attempt and Eating disorder
Minor: Violence
booksthatburn's review against another edition
adventurous
challenging
mysterious
slow-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? It's complicated
- Diverse cast of characters? Yes
- Flaws of characters a main focus? It's complicated
5.0
Cora can't stop hearing the Drowned Gods and wants to escape their oil-slick rainbows on her skin. She transfers to Whitethorn Academy in the hopes that it'll be better to forget, but it turns out conversion therapy for kids returned from portals doesn't work any better than the other kind.
Cora is a mermaid even if her scales aren't on the outside right now, but because of some previous events she's currently a mermaid who is having trouble being in the water. The stress of this drives her to think that being severed from both the Drowned Gods and from her Trenches-derived mermaid nature altogether might be better than having both and being haunted by nightmares. She's fat and comfortable in her own skin, the descriptions of fatphobia in the narrative are about how other people are seeing her and assuming things, and she's rejecting those assertions. Fatphobia is just one facet of the food control at Whitethorn, but it's the one she feels most keenly.
Cora doesn’t get to know the other girls very well and that feels purposeful in the narrative. No one at the school is there to bond, they’re there to forget and break in a way that fits the Academy’s version of the world. This gradually changes, especially once a new student appears and they both run into Regan (the protagonist of ACROSS THE GREEN GRASS FIELDS).
The world of Whitethorn Academy is at least partly modeled after “conversion therapy”, which is a euphemist term for the practice of emotionally and physically torturing people (usually children) until they stop exhibiting some “undesirable” behavior (specifically that of being queer). At Whitethorn, the undesirable behavior is anything having to do with the doors. There are a lot of little subtle things that I appreciate about this manner of worldbuilding, but due to what it’s copying a detailed description would likely be very triggering. The big one I will comment on is that Cora notices that almost all the faculty were former Whitethorn students, because the way in which the school breaks them makes them detached from their doors but also ill-suited for the normal world outside. There’s a lot of little things like that which make for a chilling read, forming a complete vision of a place which takes pleasure in breaking children, but told in a way that makes it clear at every moment that this is a horrible thing.
This continues Cora’s story from her appearances in previous books, as well as showing Regan who was introduced in ACROSS THE GREEN GRASS FIELDS. There's a new storyline which revolves around the continuing effects on Cora from her time spent with the Drowned Gods, and her attempt to break their hold by going to Whitethorn. A big thing is introduced and resolved, but this was just the introduction for Whitethorn Academy and I’m sure we’ll get more in the future. It set up a lot of fascinating things about that school and the contrast between their mission and Eleanor’s. Cora is a new narrator in the series and her voice is distinct from the previous ones. This book is a turning point in the series and might be a bit much for someone to try and start here. It relies in a basic understanding of the doors and why someone might want to either return or forget, so it’s definitely better to start with the first book instead. The ending is well done, with a bittersweet mix of triumph and terror. I'm very excited for whatever's next, this introduced several new characters and I'd love to see their doors.
Cora is a mermaid even if her scales aren't on the outside right now, but because of some previous events she's currently a mermaid who is having trouble being in the water. The stress of this drives her to think that being severed from both the Drowned Gods and from her Trenches-derived mermaid nature altogether might be better than having both and being haunted by nightmares. She's fat and comfortable in her own skin, the descriptions of fatphobia in the narrative are about how other people are seeing her and assuming things, and she's rejecting those assertions. Fatphobia is just one facet of the food control at Whitethorn, but it's the one she feels most keenly.
Cora doesn’t get to know the other girls very well and that feels purposeful in the narrative. No one at the school is there to bond, they’re there to forget and break in a way that fits the Academy’s version of the world. This gradually changes, especially once a new student appears and they both run into Regan (the protagonist of ACROSS THE GREEN GRASS FIELDS).
The world of Whitethorn Academy is at least partly modeled after “conversion therapy”, which is a euphemist term for the practice of emotionally and physically torturing people (usually children) until they stop exhibiting some “undesirable” behavior (specifically that of being queer). At Whitethorn, the undesirable behavior is anything having to do with the doors. There are a lot of little subtle things that I appreciate about this manner of worldbuilding, but due to what it’s copying a detailed description would likely be very triggering. The big one I will comment on is that Cora notices that almost all the faculty were former Whitethorn students, because the way in which the school breaks them makes them detached from their doors but also ill-suited for the normal world outside. There’s a lot of little things like that which make for a chilling read, forming a complete vision of a place which takes pleasure in breaking children, but told in a way that makes it clear at every moment that this is a horrible thing.
This continues Cora’s story from her appearances in previous books, as well as showing Regan who was introduced in ACROSS THE GREEN GRASS FIELDS. There's a new storyline which revolves around the continuing effects on Cora from her time spent with the Drowned Gods, and her attempt to break their hold by going to Whitethorn. A big thing is introduced and resolved, but this was just the introduction for Whitethorn Academy and I’m sure we’ll get more in the future. It set up a lot of fascinating things about that school and the contrast between their mission and Eleanor’s. Cora is a new narrator in the series and her voice is distinct from the previous ones. This book is a turning point in the series and might be a bit much for someone to try and start here. It relies in a basic understanding of the doors and why someone might want to either return or forget, so it’s definitely better to start with the first book instead. The ending is well done, with a bittersweet mix of triumph and terror. I'm very excited for whatever's next, this introduced several new characters and I'd love to see their doors.
Content Warnings
Graphic: Child abuse, Fatphobia, and Bullying
Moderate: Emotional abuse, Panic attacks/disorders, and Confinement
Minor: Eating disorder, Blood, Violence, and Suicide attempt
TW for strong similarities to conversion therapy.purplatypus's review
adventurous
emotional
tense
medium-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? Character
- Strong character development? It's complicated
- Loveable characters? Yes
- Diverse cast of characters? Yes
- Flaws of characters a main focus? No
5.0
Content Warnings
Graphic: Body shaming, Bullying, Child abuse, Confinement, Eating disorder, Fatphobia, Gaslighting, and Suicide attempt
Moderate: Death and Forced institutionalization
Minor: Panic attacks/disorders, War, and Violence
painausten's review against another edition
adventurous
emotional
hopeful
inspiring
lighthearted
fast-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? Yes
- Diverse cast of characters? Yes
- Flaws of characters a main focus? It's complicated
5.0
I would personally pay Seanan McGuire to come out with 3-4 of these books per year if I could. I want to reread the whole series again.
Content Warnings
Minor: Violence and Suicide attempt
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