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sarkiste's review against another edition
4.0
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So I choose this book after I saw a girl recommending TV series about Anne. And you know I am not gay but I am a huge friend and supporter of LGBTQ+ community the fact that we have a journal of a woman who was very much open (to herself) about her sexuality amazed me. I wanted to see the show but before that, I wanted to read a book and here I am.
In a timeline of a few years. It starts in 1816.1816 and ends in1824.. It's Anne's personal journal and she shares her thoughts and feelings. Historian also gives her word about Anne's life and in that way you can understand the book better.
A good thing about this book is that you actually get to know the society of 19th century England. Trough her journals you can see the mannerism of writing and atmosphere of that time. Even details are interesting so Anne for example almost always says how long service in church lasted.
A very important part is of the book and I guess I can say the important life of Anne was her relationship with M and Isabelle. While M is almost like her addiction she often criticizes Isabelle for her behavior. Anne describes in details.
It's awesome that we get to see the process. We have this woman trapped into a relationship (impossible for that time) for years that brings her good but also hurts her. This is not fiction this was once the life of a woman. Trough the years we read how time is changing and how she changes her points of view.
I have to point out I loved how to form time to time I got to move a reader of someone's journal to a word of the historian. She explains some things about time Anne was in. Overall miss Anne herself was an amazing writer even in her journal. She is honest about her feelings and she speaks openly about them.
I would recommend this book if you love historical documents or journal in general. I am a type that could read anyone's journal, to be honest, I love to see how people communicate with themselves. But also trough journals time lives forever. The time you made your journal entry will stay there for ages and ages to come and that's a beautiful thing. In case you are into fiction and you prefer books with narration or you are bored with historical things this is not for you.
This is much better than some bios I read but it's not the best book in the world-i have to be honest overall I liked a book. Read in 3 days and I enjoyed.
I am giving 4 out of 5 because it was not mindblowing. Liked -yes I would read it again in the future for sure but it wasn't the best thing that's ever happened to me and that's the honest truth.
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SRB:
Odabrala sam ovu knjigu nakon što sam gledala jednu devojku na Youtube-u kako preporučuje seriju Gentlman Jack. Ona je (između ostalog) pričala o En Lister i njenom životu. Sama nisam gej lai sam veliki "prijatelj" lgbtq- populacije i sama činjenica da imamo dnevnik žene koja je bila veoma otvorena (prema sebi) u vezi svoje sekusalnosti mi je bila fascinantna. Htela sam da pogledam TV seriju pre nego što pročitam knjigu i evo me ovde.
Knjiga je smeštena u period od nekoliko godina. Kreće 1816. godine a završava se 1824.
Ovo je Enin lični dnevnik u kome ona deli svoje misli i osećanja. Istoričarka nam takođe u pauzama između zapisa priča o Eninom životu i na taj način dobijamo bolje razumevanje priče.
Knjiga je smeštena u 19.veku i jako mi se dopalo što kroz ovaj denvnik se zapravo upoznajemo sa društvom Engleske iz tog doba. Kroz njene zapise možemo videti manir pisanja i atmosferu tog vremena.Čak su i detalji zanimljivi. Na primer, En gotovo uvek napominje koliko je trajala služba u crkvi.
Centralni i veoma važan deo knjige predstavljaju Enine veze sa M i Isabel. Dok je M gotovo njena zavisnot i sama Lister ne krije koliko je zaljubljena u nju ona je dalaeko više kritički nastrojena ka ISabel čije je navike vezane za alkohol teraju sve dalje i dalje od nje.
Sjajno je kako možemo da vidimo proces njenog života i to lično iz njene glave. Ovo je žena zarobljena u jednoj vezi (za to vreme nemogućoj) godinama i ta veza je jako usrećuje ali je isto toliko i povređuje. Ovo nije fikcija ovo je život koji se zaista desio. Prolazeći kroz godine vidimo kako se vreme menja i kako menja nju i njen pogled na određene situacije.
Moram da naglasim da naglasim da mi se jako dopalo što s vremena na vreme sam mogla da se premestim iz čitatelja nečijeg dnevnika na reč istoričarke ove knjige. Ona objašnjava pjedine stvari u vezi vremena u kom je En bila. Međutim i sama En je bila sjajan pisac čak i u svom dnevniku. Iskrena je i otvorena u vezi svojih osećanja.
Definitivno bih preporučia ovu knjigu svima koji vole istorijske dokumente ili generalno dnevnike. Ja bih čitala bilo čiji dnevnik da budem iskrena jer me fascinira kako ljudi komuniciraju sami sa sobom a sa druge strane dnevnik je zapis vremena i kroz njega vreme u kome je zapisana određena stvar živi zauvek.U slučaju da volite da čitate fikciju ili vas istorija smara ova knjiga definitivnoo nije za vas.
Da sumiram- ovo je meni bilo daleko bolje nego biografije ali nije najbolja knjiga koju sam pročitala ikda, i moram da budem iskrena. Međutim nema diskusije da mi se dopala. Pročitala sam je za 3 dana i uživala sam.
Dajem joj 4 od 5 zvezdica jer nije bila "najbolja stvar koja mi se desila u životu. Međutim doplala mi se i uživala sam.
So I choose this book after I saw a girl recommending TV series about Anne. And you know I am not gay but I am a huge friend and supporter of LGBTQ+ community the fact that we have a journal of a woman who was very much open (to herself) about her sexuality amazed me. I wanted to see the show but before that, I wanted to read a book and here I am.
In a timeline of a few years. It starts in 1816.1816 and ends in1824.. It's Anne's personal journal and she shares her thoughts and feelings. Historian also gives her word about Anne's life and in that way you can understand the book better.
A good thing about this book is that you actually get to know the society of 19th century England. Trough her journals you can see the mannerism of writing and atmosphere of that time. Even details are interesting so Anne for example almost always says how long service in church lasted.
A very important part is of the book and I guess I can say the important life of Anne was her relationship with M and Isabelle. While M is almost like her addiction she often criticizes Isabelle for her behavior. Anne describes in details.
It's awesome that we get to see the process. We have this woman trapped into a relationship (impossible for that time) for years that brings her good but also hurts her. This is not fiction this was once the life of a woman. Trough the years we read how time is changing and how she changes her points of view.
I have to point out I loved how to form time to time I got to move a reader of someone's journal to a word of the historian. She explains some things about time Anne was in. Overall miss Anne herself was an amazing writer even in her journal. She is honest about her feelings and she speaks openly about them.
I would recommend this book if you love historical documents or journal in general. I am a type that could read anyone's journal, to be honest, I love to see how people communicate with themselves. But also trough journals time lives forever. The time you made your journal entry will stay there for ages and ages to come and that's a beautiful thing. In case you are into fiction and you prefer books with narration or you are bored with historical things this is not for you.
This is much better than some bios I read but it's not the best book in the world-i have to be honest overall I liked a book. Read in 3 days and I enjoyed.
I am giving 4 out of 5 because it was not mindblowing. Liked -yes I would read it again in the future for sure but it wasn't the best thing that's ever happened to me and that's the honest truth.
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SRB:
Odabrala sam ovu knjigu nakon što sam gledala jednu devojku na Youtube-u kako preporučuje seriju Gentlman Jack. Ona je (između ostalog) pričala o En Lister i njenom životu. Sama nisam gej lai sam veliki "prijatelj" lgbtq- populacije i sama činjenica da imamo dnevnik žene koja je bila veoma otvorena (prema sebi) u vezi svoje sekusalnosti mi je bila fascinantna. Htela sam da pogledam TV seriju pre nego što pročitam knjigu i evo me ovde.
Knjiga je smeštena u period od nekoliko godina. Kreće 1816. godine a završava se 1824.
Ovo je Enin lični dnevnik u kome ona deli svoje misli i osećanja. Istoričarka nam takođe u pauzama između zapisa priča o Eninom životu i na taj način dobijamo bolje razumevanje priče.
Knjiga je smeštena u 19.veku i jako mi se dopalo što kroz ovaj denvnik se zapravo upoznajemo sa društvom Engleske iz tog doba. Kroz njene zapise možemo videti manir pisanja i atmosferu tog vremena.Čak su i detalji zanimljivi. Na primer, En gotovo uvek napominje koliko je trajala služba u crkvi.
Centralni i veoma važan deo knjige predstavljaju Enine veze sa M i Isabel. Dok je M gotovo njena zavisnot i sama Lister ne krije koliko je zaljubljena u nju ona je dalaeko više kritički nastrojena ka ISabel čije je navike vezane za alkohol teraju sve dalje i dalje od nje.
Sjajno je kako možemo da vidimo proces njenog života i to lično iz njene glave. Ovo je žena zarobljena u jednoj vezi (za to vreme nemogućoj) godinama i ta veza je jako usrećuje ali je isto toliko i povređuje. Ovo nije fikcija ovo je život koji se zaista desio. Prolazeći kroz godine vidimo kako se vreme menja i kako menja nju i njen pogled na određene situacije.
Moram da naglasim da naglasim da mi se jako dopalo što s vremena na vreme sam mogla da se premestim iz čitatelja nečijeg dnevnika na reč istoričarke ove knjige. Ona objašnjava pjedine stvari u vezi vremena u kom je En bila. Međutim i sama En je bila sjajan pisac čak i u svom dnevniku. Iskrena je i otvorena u vezi svojih osećanja.
Definitivno bih preporučia ovu knjigu svima koji vole istorijske dokumente ili generalno dnevnike. Ja bih čitala bilo čiji dnevnik da budem iskrena jer me fascinira kako ljudi komuniciraju sami sa sobom a sa druge strane dnevnik je zapis vremena i kroz njega vreme u kome je zapisana određena stvar živi zauvek.U slučaju da volite da čitate fikciju ili vas istorija smara ova knjiga definitivnoo nije za vas.
Da sumiram- ovo je meni bilo daleko bolje nego biografije ali nije najbolja knjiga koju sam pročitala ikda, i moram da budem iskrena. Međutim nema diskusije da mi se dopala. Pročitala sam je za 3 dana i uživala sam.
Dajem joj 4 od 5 zvezdica jer nije bila "najbolja stvar koja mi se desila u životu. Međutim doplala mi se i uživala sam.
saltyseaghost's review against another edition
adventurous
challenging
informative
reflective
medium-paced
5.0
alysmw's review against another edition
5.0
This book is hilarious and eye-opening. I read it because Id watched Gentleman Jack but this is all set in the period of her life where she's younger (and far more beefy) before the TV series starts. It was cool in general to get such a good look at the life and views of another person living in a different time and how different her concerns were. The lesbian stuff was also astonishing because she wasn't just a sad lonely lesbian (although at times that is a theme); she slept with loads of women and really doesn't seem to have found it that hard to find people. At one point she even got a lesbian bff and they openly discussed being a lesbian?? And this is all in a rural village in Yorkshire. The townspeople don't seem to have had any problem and were far more concerned about her snobbishness. Just amazing. Also from a gossip point of view her life is WILD. The beef is constant. It's like Jane Austen but more beefy and real and also gay.
tasmanian_bibliophile's review against another edition
4.0
‘I owe a great deal to this diary’.
Anne Lister (3 April 1791 - 22/9/1840) was a member of a family of prominent land owners: the Listers of Shibden Hall in Halifax (West Yorkshire, UK). In 1813, when her surviving brother accidentally drowned, Anne became heir to Shibden Hall. During her lifetime, Anne kept a diary which runs to some four million words. Thanks to this diary, we have access to a lot of detail about Anne's life: her sexual and emotional relationships with women; the minutiae of upper-class 18th century daily life; and the castes and customs of life in a provincial town.
In this book, Helena Whitbread has concentrated on the years from 1816 to 1824: this is the period during which Anne's two most significant relationships - with Mariana Lawton (nee Belcombe) and Isabella Norcliffe - developed and are chronicled in significant detail.
`I love, and only love, the fairer sex and thus beloved by them in turn, my heart revolts from any love but theirs.' - (from 29 January 1821)
In her introduction, Ms Whitbread writes that Anne Lister began her diaries in 1806, with entries becoming more detailed from 1808. But as the entries became more detailed, Anne developed a code (which she refers to as `crypthand') which gave her the freedom to describe her life in great detail. After all, no-one else would be able to understand the code, would they?
The story of how the diaries were discovered, decrypted, then hidden because of their contents and then finally partially published is fascinating. So is the content - especially (but by no means exclusively) to those interested in women's and lesbian history. Anne Lister's account of 18th century life, of the detail of routine life and of her activities and aspirations is absorbing. Some of her views and opinions would seem quite archaic to many of us today but then she never intended for us to be reading them. Now that I have read this book, I am keen to know more about Anne Lister's life. Particularly after 1826 when she became the owner of the Shibden estate.
Apparently, many of Anne's neighbours saw her as an eccentric, a bluestocking who learned Latin, Greek and Geometry and who discussed politics. Anne Lister was the first woman to be elected to the Halifax Literary and Philosophical Society. The BBC has made a documentary drama about Anne Lister which I've not yet seen. If you are interested in the social history of this era, from less conventional perspective, you may enjoy reading this book. I did.
Jennifer Cameron-Smith
Anne Lister (3 April 1791 - 22/9/1840) was a member of a family of prominent land owners: the Listers of Shibden Hall in Halifax (West Yorkshire, UK). In 1813, when her surviving brother accidentally drowned, Anne became heir to Shibden Hall. During her lifetime, Anne kept a diary which runs to some four million words. Thanks to this diary, we have access to a lot of detail about Anne's life: her sexual and emotional relationships with women; the minutiae of upper-class 18th century daily life; and the castes and customs of life in a provincial town.
In this book, Helena Whitbread has concentrated on the years from 1816 to 1824: this is the period during which Anne's two most significant relationships - with Mariana Lawton (nee Belcombe) and Isabella Norcliffe - developed and are chronicled in significant detail.
`I love, and only love, the fairer sex and thus beloved by them in turn, my heart revolts from any love but theirs.' - (from 29 January 1821)
In her introduction, Ms Whitbread writes that Anne Lister began her diaries in 1806, with entries becoming more detailed from 1808. But as the entries became more detailed, Anne developed a code (which she refers to as `crypthand') which gave her the freedom to describe her life in great detail. After all, no-one else would be able to understand the code, would they?
The story of how the diaries were discovered, decrypted, then hidden because of their contents and then finally partially published is fascinating. So is the content - especially (but by no means exclusively) to those interested in women's and lesbian history. Anne Lister's account of 18th century life, of the detail of routine life and of her activities and aspirations is absorbing. Some of her views and opinions would seem quite archaic to many of us today but then she never intended for us to be reading them. Now that I have read this book, I am keen to know more about Anne Lister's life. Particularly after 1826 when she became the owner of the Shibden estate.
Apparently, many of Anne's neighbours saw her as an eccentric, a bluestocking who learned Latin, Greek and Geometry and who discussed politics. Anne Lister was the first woman to be elected to the Halifax Literary and Philosophical Society. The BBC has made a documentary drama about Anne Lister which I've not yet seen. If you are interested in the social history of this era, from less conventional perspective, you may enjoy reading this book. I did.
Jennifer Cameron-Smith