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sydoodle's review against another edition
hopeful
sad
tense
medium-paced
4.0
This was pretty sick. Awesome suspense, read it all in one sitting. Only qualm is that there was no reason for this white man to write several racial and derogatory slurs - we can tell the bad guy is bad from the murder and stuff, you don't need the unnecessary and unimportant to the plot language.
Content Warnings
Graphic: Animal cruelty, Kidnapping, Torture, Racial slurs, Child abuse, Death, Terminal illness, Alcoholism, and Body horror
Minor: Panic attacks/disorders, Trafficking, Ableism, and Suicidal thoughts
thewildnorry's review against another edition
adventurous
dark
funny
tense
medium-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? Plot
- Strong character development? No
- Loveable characters? No
- Diverse cast of characters? No
- Flaws of characters a main focus? No
2.5
2.5 stars. May add more later but the horrific of treatment of characters with developmental delays, needless and annoying repetition and lack of subtlety make me want to burn this book. Add the disappointing and nonsensical Epilogue and there we have it.
[CHARACTERS]
Lars
When first introduced to Lars I took him for one of those stereotypical boys who's obsessed with anime and first person shooters and puts people off because of this and their annoying, gross, and misogynistic tendencies. His dumbness and spinelessness seemed to be maybe a slight developmental delay but more due to his poverty and past trauma than an actual illness.
When it was revealed that he has Fetal Alcohol Syndrome, I almost threw up. Then I almost burned the book. Then I wrote long rants about representation of those with developmental delays, mental illnesses, and other disabilities in books. Can a person with FAS be a villain? Sure. Is it ok to have the protagonist to call the character with FAS "Rodent Face" on almost every single page? Hell. No. The FAS facial features tend to come as a result of their syndrome and so making fun of his looks that come from this? Off the table. Mouth-breathing? Sure. His awful actions? Go for it. But what the actual fuck was this.
Ashley
So bad that he was unbelievably bad. If someone has to say "I'm a big bad guy. I'm a monster in a monster movie. I'm evil. I'm a liar." Then they're not well-written. We should be able to tell.
Darby
Has no flaws. Oh, was I supposed to believe the fact that an 18/19 year old said awful things to her mother and had a bad relationship with her is supposed to be a major character flaw? I understand why the movie added in the drug addiction because that makes sense for the "high stakes" of their fraught relationship as opposed to just personality conflicts and bad choices. That said, I do like her cleverness a lot more in here.
Ed
The best of the best. His character and growth throughout the story was so well done. I adored him.
Sandi
Fine. Her motives for getting involved in the plot are never fully explained though. I also don't get why she'd ransom a kid to help battered women? Like that was weird.
Jay
Such a badass. Totally done dirty by the movie. I mean was it unbelievable that this didn't send her into an Addisonian Crisis? Yeah 100%. But I still enjoyed her being more active here.
[WRITING]
The author seemed to lack any trust in his readers to be able to piece together clues or recognize foreshadowing coming into fruition. Everything was obvious and nothing was subtle.
* The idea that Ash is a "magic man" and "showman" regularly comes up. So does Ash's torture tendencies and reminders that he's a liar. Why don't you let readers slip into forgetting so we're shocked when something bad happens or feel validated when we catch him out with Darby?
* "'And never insult Ashley, either,' Jay warned. 'He . . . he acts like it’s okay at first, but he remembers for later. And he gets his payback if you hurt his feelings—'” - It's such obvious foreshadowing that when this does come full circle, it's more like "Oh this is when that happens" as opposed to us realizing the depravity of his character.
* For some reason the fact Ashley acknowledges about his and Darby's names earlier in the book (that Ashley has a traditionally girls name and Darby has a traditionally boys name) does not come full circle despite the opportunity for this to be the reason that Spoiler the policeman shoots Darby instead of Ashley. I mean how awful (but beautifully written) would it be if Jay tells the policeman to save Darby from Ashley, and that's another reason why the police officer gets it wrong.
The pacing would be so much better if the author cut out all the repetition and just got to the action. I read the same phrase several times, and the characters had the same thoughts several times.
The dialogue was terrible. Especially Ashley's once he was revealed as a villain. I mean the things he said entirely earnestly? No one says that. Or even thinks like that. It was so hard to take him seriously as a scary figure when he continued to use the words "golly" and "jelly side up" and "magic man" un-ironically.
The author gives fantastic descriptions and there were several really clever lines in here as well. You can find them in my notes and highlights.
Last, I didn't like the way the author spoke about mental illness, disabilities, religion, women's issues, guns, and other things. Like most of the things (other than that which I already expounded on) were really minor wording issues that spoke to a viewpoint that I found uncomfortable and wrong. (Using the r-slur like it's nothing, mentioning the NRA was right, etc.)
[LIVE REACTION NOTES]
- Some really killer one liners.
- I *really* enjoy Ed's character.
- Ash is a much more obvious charlatan.
- Oh good. Ash's racist.
- I like the note passing scene.
- *DYING* laughing at the note passing scene with the girlfriend and mouthing.
- Ashley's interrogation of Darby is disarmingly charming. Here he has to put his narcissism aside to do the job.
- Two thumbs down for the worst described kiss ever.
- In the movie it was unclear why she didn't choose the former marine. Now it makes more sense.
- Movie also missed the humor.
- Bringing up the nail gun as a yellow card makes that scene with Darby so much more sinister. That he's done it before and it's not desperation
- "You're kind of a damaged girl. I like it." Oop.
- Enjoys back and forth quips.
- Darby gets to be more of a badass and isn't super flawed. All her flaws are in the past and she's overcoming them.
- Ashley is like a caricature and uses the weirdest fucking sayings that aren't human "Golly" "toast lands jelly side up" "let the monsters do their thing"
- Holy shit the sudden violence.
- The perspective shifts only happen when the author gets excited but we as a reader don't need them.
- Also Ashley here is so over the top narcissistic and easy rather than the just DARK version in the movie
- Uncle is interesting both places.
- Wtf is this language "smooch"
- "Oh Darbs. I love You." His love is kinda creepy.
- The revelation that Lars and Ashley wanted to be here is interesting. Idk if I like it more or less than movie
- Oh I *really* don't like how they portray fetal alcohol syndrome.
- Yikes. Sandi is even more gross.
- Ed is also still great.
- Well that was gory and gross. (Ed + Sandi)
- It woulda been better if Jay hadn't said "Dont insult him he always remembers but instead just said something vague."
- Let. The audience. Piece It. Together.
- The police going to the wrong rest area is SUCH a good twist.
- SO repetitive.
- "Jelly side up" makes me literally angry
- Ashley's sick fascination with Darby is boring. I liked the movie better.
- I also liked Darby's story in the movie better but not necessarily the coke? Idk tho. Definitely makes for a better unreliable narrator but only if it'd been revealed not right away.
- If the cop didn't get confused because Jay said Darby and Ashley than there is no point to having named him Ashley
- Oh. There's no point. cool.
- Why is she alive.
- Why not just have Jay do a rubbing. Wtf.
- damn.
[CHARACTERS]
Lars
When first introduced to Lars I took him for one of those stereotypical boys who's obsessed with anime and first person shooters and puts people off because of this and their annoying, gross, and misogynistic tendencies. His dumbness and spinelessness seemed to be maybe a slight developmental delay but more due to his poverty and past trauma than an actual illness.
When it was revealed that he has Fetal Alcohol Syndrome, I almost threw up. Then I almost burned the book. Then I wrote long rants about representation of those with developmental delays, mental illnesses, and other disabilities in books. Can a person with FAS be a villain? Sure. Is it ok to have the protagonist to call the character with FAS "Rodent Face" on almost every single page? Hell. No. The FAS facial features tend to come as a result of their syndrome and so making fun of his looks that come from this? Off the table. Mouth-breathing? Sure. His awful actions? Go for it. But what the actual fuck was this.
Ashley
So bad that he was unbelievably bad. If someone has to say "I'm a big bad guy. I'm a monster in a monster movie. I'm evil. I'm a liar." Then they're not well-written. We should be able to tell.
Darby
Has no flaws. Oh, was I supposed to believe the fact that an 18/19 year old said awful things to her mother and had a bad relationship with her is supposed to be a major character flaw? I understand why the movie added in the drug addiction because that makes sense for the "high stakes" of their fraught relationship as opposed to just personality conflicts and bad choices. That said, I do like her cleverness a lot more in here.
Ed
The best of the best. His character and growth throughout the story was so well done. I adored him.
Sandi
Fine. Her motives for getting involved in the plot are never fully explained though. I also don't get why she'd ransom a kid to help battered women? Like that was weird.
Jay
Such a badass. Totally done dirty by the movie. I mean was it unbelievable that this didn't send her into an Addisonian Crisis? Yeah 100%. But I still enjoyed her being more active here.
[WRITING]
The author seemed to lack any trust in his readers to be able to piece together clues or recognize foreshadowing coming into fruition. Everything was obvious and nothing was subtle.
* The idea that Ash is a "magic man" and "showman" regularly comes up. So does Ash's torture tendencies and reminders that he's a liar. Why don't you let readers slip into forgetting so we're shocked when something bad happens or feel validated when we catch him out with Darby?
* "'And never insult Ashley, either,' Jay warned. 'He . . . he acts like it’s okay at first, but he remembers for later. And he gets his payback if you hurt his feelings—'” - It's such obvious foreshadowing that when this does come full circle, it's more like "Oh this is when that happens" as opposed to us realizing the depravity of his character.
* For some reason the fact Ashley acknowledges about his and Darby's names earlier in the book (that Ashley has a traditionally girls name and Darby has a traditionally boys name) does not come full circle despite the opportunity for this to be the reason that Spoiler the policeman shoots Darby instead of Ashley. I mean how awful (but beautifully written) would it be if Jay tells the policeman to save Darby from Ashley, and that's another reason why the police officer gets it wrong.
The pacing would be so much better if the author cut out all the repetition and just got to the action. I read the same phrase several times, and the characters had the same thoughts several times.
The dialogue was terrible. Especially Ashley's once he was revealed as a villain. I mean the things he said entirely earnestly? No one says that. Or even thinks like that. It was so hard to take him seriously as a scary figure when he continued to use the words "golly" and "jelly side up" and "magic man" un-ironically.
The author gives fantastic descriptions and there were several really clever lines in here as well. You can find them in my notes and highlights.
Last, I didn't like the way the author spoke about mental illness, disabilities, religion, women's issues, guns, and other things. Like most of the things (other than that which I already expounded on) were really minor wording issues that spoke to a viewpoint that I found uncomfortable and wrong. (Using the r-slur like it's nothing, mentioning the NRA was right, etc.)
[LIVE REACTION NOTES]
- Some really killer one liners.
- I *really* enjoy Ed's character.
- Ash is a much more obvious charlatan.
- Oh good. Ash's racist.
- I like the note passing scene.
- *DYING* laughing at the note passing scene with the girlfriend and mouthing.
- Ashley's interrogation of Darby is disarmingly charming. Here he has to put his narcissism aside to do the job.
- Two thumbs down for the worst described kiss ever.
- In the movie it was unclear why she didn't choose the former marine. Now it makes more sense.
- Movie also missed the humor.
- Bringing up the nail gun as a yellow card makes that scene with Darby so much more sinister. That he's done it before and it's not desperation
- "You're kind of a damaged girl. I like it." Oop.
- Enjoys back and forth quips.
- Darby gets to be more of a badass and isn't super flawed. All her flaws are in the past and she's overcoming them.
- Ashley is like a caricature and uses the weirdest fucking sayings that aren't human "Golly" "toast lands jelly side up" "let the monsters do their thing"
- Holy shit the sudden violence.
- The perspective shifts only happen when the author gets excited but we as a reader don't need them.
- Also Ashley here is so over the top narcissistic and easy rather than the just DARK version in the movie
- Uncle is interesting both places.
- Wtf is this language "smooch"
- "Oh Darbs. I love You." His love is kinda creepy.
- The revelation that Lars and Ashley wanted to be here is interesting. Idk if I like it more or less than movie
- Oh I *really* don't like how they portray fetal alcohol syndrome.
- Yikes. Sandi is even more gross.
- Ed is also still great.
- Well that was gory and gross. (Ed + Sandi)
- It woulda been better if Jay hadn't said "Dont insult him he always remembers but instead just said something vague."
- Let. The audience. Piece It. Together.
- The police going to the wrong rest area is SUCH a good twist.
- SO repetitive.
- "Jelly side up" makes me literally angry
- Ashley's sick fascination with Darby is boring. I liked the movie better.
- I also liked Darby's story in the movie better but not necessarily the coke? Idk tho. Definitely makes for a better unreliable narrator but only if it'd been revealed not right away.
- If the cop didn't get confused because Jay said Darby and Ashley than there is no point to having named him Ashley
- Oh. There's no point. cool.
- Why is she alive.
- Why not just have Jay do a rubbing. Wtf.
- damn.
Content Warnings
Graphic: Trafficking, Torture, Gaslighting, Kidnapping, Violence, Medical content, Injury/Injury detail, Ableism, Fire/Fire injury, Murder, and Medical trauma
Moderate: Death, Terminal illness, Sexual violence, Death of parent, Animal death, Cancer, Racial slurs, and Alcoholism
Minor: Suicidal thoughts and Incest
mollitorm's review against another edition
dark
tense
fast-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? Plot
- Strong character development? No
- Loveable characters? It's complicated
- Diverse cast of characters? No
- Flaws of characters a main focus? N/A
3.0
Content Warnings
Graphic: Blood, Death, Injury/Injury detail, Kidnapping, Animal cruelty, Animal death, and Murder
Moderate: Addiction, Alcohol, Alcoholism, Cancer, Cursing, and Death of parent
Minor: Vomit, Trafficking, Suicidal thoughts, Sexism, Rape, Racism, Pedophilia, Grief, and Car accident
toodeadtoread's review against another edition
adventurous
dark
emotional
tense
medium-paced
- Strong character development? It's complicated
- Loveable characters? It's complicated
- Diverse cast of characters? No
3.5
Content Warnings
Graphic: Body horror, Blood, Child abuse, Cursing, Death, Kidnapping, Suicidal thoughts, Violence, and Torture
Moderate: Confinement, Gore, Grief, Gun violence, and Physical abuse
Minor: Pedophilia, Rape, and Trafficking
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