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viccreadsbooks's review against another edition
- Plot- or character-driven? Plot
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? It's complicated
- Diverse cast of characters? Yes
- Flaws of characters a main focus? No
4.0
My Favorite Quotes:
-"You have not seen death, my lord. You have only seen the mask we put on it." p. 127
-"Piety can turn the power-hungry into monsters, Ead said. They can twist any teaching to justify their actions." p. 550
-"Do not deny yourself the privilege of living." p. 643
This behemoth of a book took me on an ENTIRE journey. I read this expecting great world-building, political fantasy, and to be ensnared by the world within, and it hit the mark.
The Priory of the Orange Tree is what I would aspire to be as an author in terms of world-building. The mythology, legends, religion, political workings, and belief systems are so detailed and entwined within the story that I didn't find myself having to flip back through the pages to remember a small detail or re-read a world-building aspect to move through the rest of the story. I was fully immersed in the world and all of its inner-workings.
I wish I could adequately explain the plot of this book, but it is so complex and composed of sub-plots that form the web that weaves into the full plot of this book that I would do it a disservice if I were to try.
The Parts of The Book I Wasn't Expecting
- It's told from 4 different POVs throughout the book.
- It has SOLID diversity and representation throughout the book (both with POC main characters and LGBTQ+ relationships)
- The sadness and loss that appears frequently throughout the book
What I Liked
- I thoroughly enjoyed the world-building. I loved learning every myth, legend, religion, magic system, belief, secret society, and political system. It immersed me fully in this world without a doubt about how the world worked and what the people in this world believed.
- I enjoyed that this story had mostly women starring as the political and military leaders, and it wasn't something that was a focal point (in terms of main conflict) within the story.
- One of the main characters didn't want children!! I absolutely LOVED this. As someone who isn't fond of children and isn't bounding with joy at the thought of having one, I was so excited to see a character who rejected the motherly role forced upon her and admitted her fear and reluctance. This was in stark contrast to the many other fantasy novels featuring female MCs that I've read where the badass, female MC's "happy ending" always ends with a child. There's nothing wrong with children or badass women having children, but I have often found myself reading the end of a story where the MC has a child and it feels wrong within the story -whether it conflicts with the personality of the character or the timing in the character's life.
- The book didn't divulge all of its secrets. This may come off as a weird plus, but I liked that there were hints and mentions dropped hinting at an entirely different sub-plot or a major secret that were never brought to the surface or revealed. This is closer to what would actually occur in real life. Not every secret will be revealed. Not every answer will be given.
- I liked that this book did not have an intense love plot focus. I worried I might struggle with a book that wasn't love-centered and was heavily political fantasy, but I LOVED the story. I was more invested in the war and main plot than any of the romance sub-plots which thoroughly surprised me.
What I Struggled With
- I'm not a huge fan of multiple POV books. This book was better than most I've read, but I struggled forming attachments to each individual character and their story/world when there are multiple POVs. Especially with how often the POV shifted in the beginning of the book, I found myself not caring at all about some characters and wishing to skip to a certain character's POV - which made some parts of the book feel slow and drawn out while others were exciting and interesting. This might just be the nature of this type of book and something I don't naturally mesh with well - and that's fine! It was just something I struggled with in the beginning that made me take days to finish the book instead of binge reading it in a few sittings.
-The only other thing I wasn't fond of with this book was how many of the moments that I believe were intended to be heart breaking and sad just...weren't. I felt like many of those scenes went by too fast without being able to even feel true sadness at the loss
Even with the aspects I didn't enjoy, I still thoroughly enjoyed The Priory of the Orange Tree. It was on my TBR for a long time and a challenge to myself to read such a thicc boy. I wouldn't recommend this book for people just getting into reading or anyone looking for an easy, fast-paced read, but if you are down for a well-detailed, well thought out journey in an AMAZING world with diverse characters, relationships, and beliefs that is the definition of good political fantasy - then this book is written for you.
Graphic: Death, Miscarriage, Misogyny, and Pregnancy
Minor: Suicidal thoughts and Dementia
grets_reads's review against another edition
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? Yes
- Diverse cast of characters? Yes
5.0
Moderate: Violence, Blood, Death of parent, and Injury/Injury detail
Minor: Alcoholism, Miscarriage, Sexual content, Slavery, Dementia, Kidnapping, Grief, Murder, Pregnancy, Fire/Fire injury, and Injury/Injury detail
ameliacollins's review against another edition
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? It's complicated
- Diverse cast of characters? Yes
- Flaws of characters a main focus? It's complicated
5.0
Graphic: Toxic relationship, Violence, Grief, Religious bigotry, Gaslighting, and War
Moderate: Confinement, Death, Infertility, Miscarriage, Sexual content, and Pregnancy
Minor: Alcoholism, Infertility, Miscarriage, Suicide, Torture, Dementia, Death of parent, and Pregnancy
mollyfour's review against another edition
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? Yes
- Diverse cast of characters? It's complicated
- Flaws of characters a main focus? It's complicated
4.5
Moderate: Cursing, Death, Violence, Blood, Grief, and Murder
Minor: Confinement, Infertility, Miscarriage, Torture, Blood, Dementia, Kidnapping, Pregnancy, Alcohol, and War
strange_little_ranger's review against another edition
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? It's complicated
- Diverse cast of characters? Yes
4.5
Graphic: Animal cruelty, Miscarriage, Violence, Blood, Grief, and Fire/Fire injury
Minor: Addiction, Alcoholism, Animal cruelty, Animal death, Bullying, Death, Gore, Infertility, Infidelity, Miscarriage, Racism, Suicidal thoughts, Torture, Violence, Blood, Excrement, Vomit, Medical content, Dementia, Kidnapping, Grief, Religious bigotry, Death of parent, Murder, Pregnancy, Fire/Fire injury, Alcohol, War, and Injury/Injury detail
fiveredhens's review against another edition
- Plot- or character-driven? Plot
- Strong character development? No
- Loveable characters? No
- Diverse cast of characters? It's complicated
- Flaws of characters a main focus? No
2.75
"This Jannart—the man you loved,"
she said, looking him dead in the eye. "Do you think he would want you to give up, or carry on?"
"I don't want to carry on! Do you not understand? Does nobody in this world understand, damn you? ls no one else haunted?" A quiver of wrath entered his voice. "Everything I did—everything I was—everything I am, is because of him. He was someone before me. I am no one without him. I am tired of living without him at my side. He left me for that book and, by the Saint, I resent him for it. I resent him every minute of every day."
i liked the setting and characters but imo it was badly underedited and i didn't feel like the final battle had any stakes :( the characters had
Graphic: Miscarriage
Moderate: Alcoholism, Gore, Incest, Racism, Rape, Sexual content, Violence, Blood, Dementia, Murder, Pregnancy, and Injury/Injury detail
Minor: Animal death, Confinement, Cursing, Drug use, Mental illness, Xenophobia, Excrement, Vomit, Medical content, Grief, Religious bigotry, Fire/Fire injury, and War
dancers_and_dragons's review against another edition
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? Yes
- Diverse cast of characters? Yes
- Flaws of characters a main focus? It's complicated
5.0
Graphic: Death, Miscarriage, Suicidal thoughts, Violence, Blood, Murder, and Colonisation
Moderate: Addiction, Alcoholism, Animal cruelty, Animal death, Emotional abuse, Infertility, Mental illness, Racism, Self harm, Terminal illness, Dementia, Religious bigotry, Alcohol, and War
Minor: Child death, Confinement, Sexual content, Suicide attempt, Pregnancy, and Gaslighting
Fantasy Racism that is explored and challenged, fantasy religious bigotry that is explored and challenged, brief and non-graphic sexual content description in two scenes, with fade to black elsewherecharliebriggs96's review against another edition
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? Yes
- Diverse cast of characters? Yes
- Flaws of characters a main focus? No
4.0
Let’s talk about magic: I usually find magic systems either over-complex or utterly lazy. This, however, has a great magic system that makes complete sense. It almost gave me full metal alchemist vibes with the whole idea that your power is limited to how much you received to gave. I liked that also it heavily implied the yin and yang of energy. You cannot have one without the other. I enjoyed that.
Let’s talk religion: it’s a big part of this book, so it has to be mentioned because I think you can take this book and look at the world and see the similarities between the two. We as humans are prone to jumping the gun when it comes to faith, what is heresy and what is not and so on. Someone else’s religion, if not shared with your own is terrible, and evil, or at the very least a bad omen of sorts. Which is what this book shows, is utter bullsh*t. Every religion has the same underlined meaning and teachings, which can be said for the beliefs and faiths within this book. And I think Shannon did a great job at exploring that.
Let’s talk about the characters: Shannon did an excellent job at making an array of characters that you desperately love, come to love and then hate or despise right off of the bat. I have never in my life hoped for someone’s death more than I did with Niclays. As soon as he did what he did (when you read, you’ll know what I mean
Moderate: Death, Emotional abuse, Infertility, Miscarriage, Misogyny, Sexism, Torture, Dementia, Grief, Religious bigotry, Pregnancy, Lesbophobia, and Gaslighting
li_reading's review against another edition
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? Yes
- Diverse cast of characters? Yes
- Flaws of characters a main focus? It's complicated
4.75
Graphic: Chronic illness, Death, Miscarriage, Physical abuse, Violence, Blood, Grief, Murder, Pregnancy, and Fire/Fire injury
Moderate: Addiction, Alcoholism, Animal death, Infidelity, Torture, Dementia, Kidnapping, Religious bigotry, Abandonment, and Alcohol
Minor: Confinement, Cursing, Emotional abuse, Gun violence, Homophobia, Incest, Rape, Sexual content, Suicidal thoughts, Forced institutionalization, Vomit, Medical content, Death of parent, Lesbophobia, and Toxic friendship
oliviafaye's review
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? Yes
- Diverse cast of characters? Yes
- Flaws of characters a main focus? No
5.0
Graphic: Alcoholism, Animal cruelty, Animal death, Child death, Cursing, Death, Gore, Gun violence, Infertility, Miscarriage, Sexual assault, Sexual content, Terminal illness, Violence, Medical content, Dementia, Grief, Religious bigotry, Medical trauma, Suicide attempt, Death of parent, Murder, Pregnancy, Fire/Fire injury, and Alcohol