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ecn's review against another edition
4.5
Graphic: Alcoholism, Cancer, Death, Drug abuse, Drug use, Genocide, Gun violence, Hate crime, Mental illness, Physical abuse, Racial slurs, Racism, Self harm, Sexual violence, Slavery, Suicidal thoughts, Suicide, Torture, Toxic relationship, Violence, Blood, Police brutality, Medical content, Dementia, Grief, Mass/school shootings, Medical trauma, Car accident, Suicide attempt, Death of parent, Murder, Pregnancy, Toxic friendship, Abandonment, Alcohol, Colonisation, War, and Injury/Injury detail
lettuce_read's review against another edition
4.0
Graphic: Drug abuse
Moderate: Alcoholism, Cancer, Suicide, and Suicide attempt
Minor: Gun violence and Pandemic/Epidemic
readingwithkaitlyn's review against another edition
- Plot- or character-driven? Character
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? It's complicated
- Diverse cast of characters? Yes
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
4.0
Graphic: Addiction, Child abuse, Death, Drug abuse, Drug use, Genocide, Gun violence, Hate crime, Mental illness, Racism, Violence, Blood, Grief, Religious bigotry, Death of parent, Murder, Colonisation, and Injury/Injury detail
Moderate: Ableism, Alcoholism, Animal death, Cancer, Self harm, Suicidal thoughts, Terminal illness, Medical content, Pregnancy, Toxic friendship, Alcohol, and War
Minor: Ableism, Animal cruelty, Body shaming, Bullying, Child death, Confinement, Domestic abuse, Infertility, Miscarriage, Misogyny, Pedophilia, Racial slurs, Rape, Sexual assault, Slavery, Suicide, Transphobia, Excrement, Vomit, Antisemitism, Dementia, Car accident, Fire/Fire injury, Cultural appropriation, Abandonment, and Pandemic/Epidemic
taylornredmond's review against another edition
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? Yes
- Diverse cast of characters? Yes
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
4.0
Graphic: Addiction, Drug abuse, and Suicide
morethanmylupus's review against another edition
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? Yes
- Diverse cast of characters? Yes
- Flaws of characters a main focus? It's complicated
4.0
Like in There There, this book's topics largely stem from the overarching generational trauma theme. But I found that in this book, there are fewer punches pulled. We see the massacres, the horrific schools like the Carlisle School, and later impacts like high levels of drug use and mental health needs. Yet despite all these heartbreaking elements, the writing is beautiful and moving. There's a sense of bearing witness to the traumas inflicted even as there is a sense of triumph and resilience that is completely independent of us as readers.
As we continue to bear witness to the ongoing, long-reaching impact of colonialism both within the US and abroad, these stories are increasingly essential reminders of the way colonialist ideology has a very real impact on real people.
Graphic: Addiction, Alcoholism, Drug abuse, Drug use, Racism, Violence, and Mass/school shootings
Moderate: Cancer, Suicide, and Mass/school shootings
Minor: Child death
mandaant1's review against another edition
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? Yes
- Diverse cast of characters? Yes
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
5.0
They were losing their identities on how to be a native and what is a native. They were being adopted into white homes and did not know where they came from. Some were half white/half native and did not know what to identify as. I believe this to be a true struggle.
The last generation was affected the most by the opium epidemic. Orvil being shot at the pow wow (Read There, There for the back story).
Everyone in this story was going through their own trauma and were trying to cope with it on their own.
Moderate: Addiction, Alcoholism, Drug abuse, Drug use, Suicide, Suicide attempt, and Alcohol
Minor: Cancer
sssnoo's review against another edition
- Plot- or character-driven? Character
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? Yes
- Diverse cast of characters? Yes
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
4.25
If you love words, if you are looking for a book where the words will take you deep into another's universe, you should give this book a read. Tommy Orange is probably not your author if you want a linear story with a clear-cut plot.
The first part of this book details the multigenerational past of Orvil's family (Orval was a shooting victim from There There). The second half of the book deals with Orvil and his extended family. It goes deep into drug abuse and other mental health crises - it is dark reading at times.
This would be a good pick for a book club with many discussion topics.
Thank you to NetGalley for providing me with an ARC in return for a review.
Graphic: Drug abuse, Gun violence, Mental illness, Self harm, Suicide, and Grief
kellkie's review against another edition
- Plot- or character-driven? Character
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? It's complicated
- Diverse cast of characters? Yes
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
4.0
Thank you to NetGalley and Knopf for the eARC.
Moderate: Addiction, Alcoholism, Drug abuse, Self harm, Suicide, and Death of parent
caseythereader's review against another edition
- Plot- or character-driven? Character
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? Yes
- Diverse cast of characters? Yes
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
4.75
- I knew Orange would break my heart with WANDERING STARS, and he sure did.
- Orange expands on the legacy of colonization and the generational traumas that stem from it, showing different ways they manifested throughout the decades.
- Orange’s writing is so gorgeous, the kind of writing that you can’t imagine being done any other way.
- I reread THERE THERE immediately before this one, and am happy to report that the anti-fat bias in the first book is almost entirely gone.
Graphic: Addiction, Alcoholism, Animal death, Cancer, Cursing, Death, Domestic abuse, Drug abuse, Drug use, Genocide, Gun violence, Racism, Self harm, Suicidal thoughts, Suicide, Violence, Blood, Medical content, Grief, Mass/school shootings, Death of parent, Abandonment, Alcohol, Colonisation, and Injury/Injury detail
Moderate: Rape
skudiklier's review against another edition
- Plot- or character-driven? Character
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? Yes
- Diverse cast of characters? Yes
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
5.0
That said, this didn't disappoint at all. I will admit it took me a bit to get into it, given how different the first third or so is from There There. But I trusted Tommy Orange and his process, and I found the entirety of the book engaging, even if it took me longer to read the beginning.
I read the last two thirds of this book all in one day, and basically couldn't put it down. I love the way it balances hard depressing real-world shit with love and hope for the future. The characters here go through so much, and at times it can be really hard to read, but I don't think it should have been written any other way. It's a great sequel and I'd recommend it to anyone.
Thank you to Knopf and Netgalley for the chance to read and review this ARC.
Graphic: Addiction, Alcoholism, Animal death, Drug abuse, Gun violence, Racism, Self harm, Suicidal thoughts, Violence, Blood, Grief, Suicide attempt, Death of parent, Murder, and Colonisation
Moderate: Sexual assault, Suicide, Abandonment, and Injury/Injury detail
Minor: Child death, Rape, and Fire/Fire injury
graphic: child abduction, drug overdose, generational trauma moderate: Native boarding schools