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annikaa's review against another edition
adventurous
dark
emotional
mysterious
slow-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? It's complicated
- Diverse cast of characters? Yes
- Flaws of characters a main focus? It's complicated
4.0
Content Warnings
Graphic: Confinement, Suicidal thoughts, Blood, Body horror, Death, Grief, Suicide, Vomit, Excrement, Cancer, Injury/Injury detail, Medical content, Physical abuse, Schizophrenia/Psychosis , Terminal illness, Violence, and Gaslighting
Moderate: Xenophobia and War
Minor: Misogyny
augustar14's review against another edition
adventurous
challenging
dark
emotional
mysterious
tense
medium-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? It's complicated
- Loveable characters? It's complicated
- Diverse cast of characters? It's complicated
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
4.0
Another gay space story where something isn't quite right. That being said, I didn't see the twist/what wasn't right coming. Don't recommend reading before bed- there's no good place to put it down. This book makes you think about what it means to be human, to connect with another. It explores what someone will do to survive, and to save the one they love.
Content Warnings
Graphic: Terminal illness, Gaslighting, Schizophrenia/Psychosis , Grief, Murder, Violence, Death, and Blood
Moderate: Cancer, Confinement, Vomit, and Injury/Injury detail
Minor: War, Homophobia, Sexual content, Suicide, Emotional abuse, Colonisation, Medical content, and Transphobia
welgan's review against another edition
emotional
mysterious
reflective
tense
medium-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? Character
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? Yes
- Diverse cast of characters? Yes
- Flaws of characters a main focus? It's complicated
5.0
Spoiler-free review
This book is BRILLIANT. It was well-crafted, met all my expectations and went beyond it, even while not meeting my usual cosy preferences. I will need a bit of time to let it sink and mature in my heart, I can't skip to something else immediately.
If you consider reading it, please do not read reviews. Prevent yourself from getting spoiled, it's an experience best consumed while knowing nothing. I'll do my best to review its qualities without spoiling its content.
I was looking for a sci-fi book with characters isolated in a station in space, and it delivered over my expectations. The feeling of space and of isolation is stellar. The wordsmithing is clever and really made feel it, feel the danger, alienness and distant, icy beauty of space.
I was looking for feelings, and it delivered that with brilliance too. The way how the developpement of the two main characters' relationship was explored was amazing. It was tense, emotional, and it took time to explore so many different angles.
The characters are lovable, human, and you can feel their training in their interactions (especially training in psychology and communication when isolated in space, through Ambrose's narration).
As a personnal opinion, I enjoy when characters from different cultures interect and this was nice. It was also a bit strange for my asexual self to read the horny main character Ambrose is, but felt it was very well managed. It goes so well with the rest of development I wouldn't want it other wise. Also reading him made me fear the sexual content would be a bit too present, but it is definitely not. Intimacy scenes are subtle and often very emotional.
The first and second parts of the book were tense, packed with mystery and powerful feelings, with incredibly emotional and tense conclusions, reaching a peak at the end of part 2.
The third part was brutal. Definitely brutal.
In the last parts, the build-up tension changes as the mystery of the first parts makes place to resolving the situation. It gradually unravels the plot and the book ends with calm and peacefulness, leaving me tranquil, fullfilled with my reading. Which is rather amazing for a book about two spacefarers alone in space featuring so much emotional tension.
Last but not least, I'd like to say that the author managed a trope he used very cleverly.
Read under spoiler for more details (still as vague as possible, but we enter in spoiler zone) :
The problem with tropes needing to narrated the same parts again, such as timeloops or what happens in The darkness outside us, is that it can be boring to re-read the same thing several times, to undo all progress and redo it. Here, it is very well managed. The "redo" part goes quickly, with only some key passages being retold, and as readers, we fill in the blank by memory, until we reach a point were stories diverge. Each part is so different at core, each relationship exploring a different angle, it's amazing.
This book is BRILLIANT. It was well-crafted, met all my expectations and went beyond it, even while not meeting my usual cosy preferences. I will need a bit of time to let it sink and mature in my heart, I can't skip to something else immediately.
If you consider reading it, please do not read reviews. Prevent yourself from getting spoiled, it's an experience best consumed while knowing nothing. I'll do my best to review its qualities without spoiling its content.
I was looking for a sci-fi book with characters isolated in a station in space, and it delivered over my expectations. The feeling of space and of isolation is stellar. The wordsmithing is clever and really made feel it, feel the danger, alienness and distant, icy beauty of space.
I was looking for feelings, and it delivered that with brilliance too. The way how the developpement of the two main characters' relationship was explored was amazing. It was tense, emotional, and it took time to explore so many different angles.
The characters are lovable, human, and you can feel their training in their interactions (especially training in psychology and communication when isolated in space, through Ambrose's narration).
As a personnal opinion, I enjoy when characters from different cultures interect and this was nice. It was also a bit strange for my asexual self to read the horny main character Ambrose is, but felt it was very well managed. It goes so well with the rest of development I wouldn't want it other wise. Also reading him made me fear the sexual content would be a bit too present, but it is definitely not. Intimacy scenes are subtle and often very emotional.
The first and second parts of the book were tense, packed with mystery and powerful feelings, with incredibly emotional and tense conclusions, reaching a peak at the end of part 2.
The third part was brutal. Definitely brutal.
In the last parts, the build-up tension changes as the mystery of the first parts makes place to resolving the situation. It gradually unravels the plot and the book ends with calm and peacefulness, leaving me tranquil, fullfilled with my reading. Which is rather amazing for a book about two spacefarers alone in space featuring so much emotional tension.
Last but not least, I'd like to say that the author managed a trope he used very cleverly.
Read under spoiler for more details (still as vague as possible, but we enter in spoiler zone) :
Content Warnings
Graphic: Murder, Injury/Injury detail, Death, and Terminal illness
Moderate: Vomit and Sexual content
Minor: Excrement
mxdegroot's review against another edition
adventurous
challenging
dark
mysterious
tense
medium-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? No
- Loveable characters? Yes
- Diverse cast of characters? Yes
- Flaws of characters a main focus? It's complicated
3.75
Honestly? What a great read to start the year with. This book was gifted to me by my best friend and unlike anything I've ever read before in all the good ways.
The first hundred or so pages were quite slow to me, but once the story gets going it is absolute insanity to the very end and you cannot put it down anymore. Schrefer tricks his readers as much as
I do have to say that the romance felt a bit forced or too fast at times. Maybe it is because I found both Ambrose and Kodiak hard to connect to. Don't get me wrong, I loved it once the plot really got going, but if we'd had the chance to learn a bit more about our spacefarers' past, especially Kodiak, even though
I've seen The Darkness Outside Us be described as a story that "smashes your heart and puts it back together" and ultimately, I agree with that statement and have nothing else to add to it.
Rep: queer MC, poc MC, non-binary mentioned character
December 24th, 2022 - January 2nd, 2023
"When adoration is selfish, it's not going anywhere." - Ambrose Cusk, part 1.
"Welcome to Minerva."
"I couldn't have written about the love of a lifetime without first experiencing one with [my husband]." - Eliot Schrefer, acknowledgements.
Content Warnings
Graphic: Gaslighting, Injury/Injury detail, Death, Medical content, Blood, Murder, Cancer, and Violence
Moderate: Suicide, Confinement, Self harm, Sexual content, Body horror, Schizophrenia/Psychosis , Terminal illness, and Suicidal thoughts
Minor: War and Death of parent
paulawind's review against another edition
adventurous
dark
tense
slow-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? It's complicated
- Loveable characters? It's complicated
- Diverse cast of characters? Yes
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
2.25
It’s perfectly average sci-fi, getting brownie points for trying to be diverse. Nice spot in the ya genre but I guess I’m-too seasoned in sci-fi genre to find any of the plot points here novel.
I liked how they pondered upon different reactions the clones would have upon discovering that they are clones but existential dilemmas are the backbone of sci-fi so I could predict most of the action and plot twists. Was it still an enjoyable read? Yeah but I’m not going to rave about it. Maybe I’m too old for this? Or too “polsci grad” for the mentioning of Plato’s allegory of the cave to seem nuanced? I liked how it asked the questions what should our fate be as individual humans in history. Felt like this book learned a bit too much into being American selfish no matter what because let’s be honest - the fact that the humanity wasn’t doomed after they killed all but the last pair of clones is sheer luck. Just because they wanted to live few extra years they almost made humanity die out. Typical neoliberal propaganda
Content Warnings
Graphic: Terminal illness, Mental illness, Vomit, Violence, Suicide, Injury/Injury detail, Murder, Self harm, and Excrement
galleytrot's review against another edition
adventurous
dark
emotional
inspiring
tense
medium-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? It's complicated
- Loveable characters? Yes
- Diverse cast of characters? Yes
- Flaws of characters a main focus? No
5.0
Content Warnings
Graphic: Death, Cancer, Medical trauma, Suicide, Blood, Gaslighting, and Terminal illness
planetesastraea's review against another edition
dark
emotional
funny
hopeful
mysterious
reflective
tense
fast-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? Yes
- Diverse cast of characters? Yes
4.0
The Darkness Outside Us is an easy read. I struggled reading through my previous book which was much more slow paced so this one was a real breather. It doesn't give you time to get bored.
Ambrose's point of view gives us a funny, light-hearted and candid introduction to this world. He's silly and dorky and impetuous at times, which makes the story even sharper as Ambrose's different experiences of the world shape him.
I've always loved stories that repeat themselves- let it be through repetitive flashbacks, dreams, or even tales of reincarnation.
Schrefer uses this tool with great skill, some obvious foreshadowing details making the subtle, discreet ones even more delightful as the story unravels.
I didn't know what to expect of this book except "two boys in space fall in love". I certainly didn't expect the dark and twisted turns, the profound questioning of existence, and what makes a life worth living.
It had a lot more in store than I thought and I can't say I was disappointed.
Ambrose's point of view gives us a funny, light-hearted and candid introduction to this world. He's silly and dorky and impetuous at times, which makes the story even sharper as Ambrose's different experiences of the world shape him.
I've always loved stories that repeat themselves- let it be through repetitive flashbacks, dreams, or even tales of reincarnation.
Schrefer uses this tool with great skill, some obvious foreshadowing details making the subtle, discreet ones even more delightful as the story unravels.
I didn't know what to expect of this book except "two boys in space fall in love". I certainly didn't expect the dark and twisted turns, the profound questioning of existence, and what makes a life worth living.
It had a lot more in store than I thought and I can't say I was disappointed.
Content Warnings
Graphic: Confinement, Grief, and Death
Moderate: Cancer, Mental illness, Panic attacks/disorders, and Suicidal thoughts
Minor: War, Terminal illness, Schizophrenia/Psychosis , Homophobia, and Xenophobia
geilie's review against another edition
adventurous
dark
mysterious
sad
tense
fast-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? It's complicated
- Loveable characters? N/A
- Diverse cast of characters? N/A
- Flaws of characters a main focus? It's complicated
3.25
Content Warnings
Graphic: Death, Terminal illness, Suicidal thoughts, Blood, Injury/Injury detail, Violence, Murder, Schizophrenia/Psychosis , Gore, and Vomit
Moderate: Cancer
Minor: War
racheloddment's review against another edition
adventurous
emotional
hopeful
mysterious
tense
fast-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? Yes
- Diverse cast of characters? It's complicated
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
4.5
Content Warnings
Graphic: Death
Moderate: Blood, Medical content, Vomit, Injury/Injury detail, and Gore
Minor: Suicide, Sexual content, and Terminal illness
booksthatburn's review against another edition
dark
hopeful
mysterious
reflective
slow-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? Character
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? Yes
- Diverse cast of characters? Yes
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
4.0
THE DARKNESS OUTSIDE US features two older teens on a space mission to rescue Ambrose's sister. When little things stop adding up, the more Ambrose and Kodiak try to find out what's happening, the more the A.I. gets in their way.
The plot takes a while to get going, the beginning is a lot of worldbuilding which is usually smoothly conveyed, but occasionally veers into thinly veiled infodumps. Once things get going (somewhere between a third and halfway in) they pick up quickly and the story becomes very engaging. It has much of what I love most about time loop stories without technically being one. I was initially hesitant about the relationship between Ambrose and Kodiak, their chemistry grew slowly and I'm a bit too demi to buy into a romance driven by being the only two people they can interact with, but once I accepted that they clearly like each other I was able to settle in and enjoy the story.
They're from two different countries (apparently the only two countries on Earth at the time of their ship's launch), which are implied to be Russia and an Anglophone country (I'm pretty sure this is supported by the actual text, the audiobook narrator used a Russian accent for Kodiak and a British one for Ambrose which may have affected how I interpreted the story. They make reference to a cold war, so I'm pretty sure that's what was happening. This felt a bit off to me from a worldbuilding angle because there are other large countries who could just as easily have been used as the starting point for the two remaining world powers, but I think the choice ends up working. With that small caveat, I love the second half of the book, I had an excellent time and didn't want it to end.
I would highly recommend this, except for my uneasiness about the country choices and the fact that in the first quarter I almost didn't finish it because of the slow pacing and how I wasn't getting into the romance at first. If you want a groundhog day story about gay love in space, with a possibly hostile A.I., try this.
The plot takes a while to get going, the beginning is a lot of worldbuilding which is usually smoothly conveyed, but occasionally veers into thinly veiled infodumps. Once things get going (somewhere between a third and halfway in) they pick up quickly and the story becomes very engaging. It has much of what I love most about time loop stories without technically being one. I was initially hesitant about the relationship between Ambrose and Kodiak, their chemistry grew slowly and I'm a bit too demi to buy into a romance driven by being the only two people they can interact with, but once I accepted that they clearly like each other I was able to settle in and enjoy the story.
They're from two different countries (apparently the only two countries on Earth at the time of their ship's launch), which are implied to be Russia and an Anglophone country (I'm pretty sure this is supported by the actual text, the audiobook narrator used a Russian accent for Kodiak and a British one for Ambrose which may have affected how I interpreted the story. They make reference to a cold war, so I'm pretty sure that's what was happening. This felt a bit off to me from a worldbuilding angle because there are other large countries who could just as easily have been used as the starting point for the two remaining world powers, but I think the choice ends up working. With that small caveat, I love the second half of the book, I had an excellent time and didn't want it to end.
I would highly recommend this, except for my uneasiness about the country choices and the fact that in the first quarter I almost didn't finish it because of the slow pacing and how I wasn't getting into the romance at first. If you want a groundhog day story about gay love in space, with a possibly hostile A.I., try this.
Content Warnings
Graphic: Grief and Death
Moderate: Cursing, Excrement, Medical content, Sexual content, Cancer, Terminal illness, Vomit, and Violence
Minor: Injury/Injury detail