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laurence19's review against another edition
adventurous
emotional
mysterious
tense
slow-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? Character
- Strong character development? It's complicated
- Loveable characters? Yes
- Diverse cast of characters? No
- Flaws of characters a main focus? No
4.0
Content Warnings
Graphic: Pregnancy, Pedophilia, Death of parent, Hate crime, Emotional abuse, Death, Racism, Murder, Kidnapping, Colonisation, Blood, and Adult/minor relationship
Moderate: Toxic relationship, Sexual violence, Sexual assault, Child death, Child abuse, and Violence
kathrynleereads's review against another edition
adventurous
dark
emotional
funny
hopeful
inspiring
mysterious
sad
tense
fast-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? Yes
- Diverse cast of characters? Yes
- Flaws of characters a main focus? It's complicated
4.75
As a human, mysteries intrigue me. As a person who devoted years to the study of anthropology, mysteries of culture consume me.
So a story about a city, mysterious from the beginning, but suddenly lost, disappeared from the world? It felt like magic to have stumbled upon it.
Right from the prologue, Strange the Dreamer grabbed my attention and refused to let go.
The story, the characters, the settings, the dreams, they all just kept getting better and better.
Watching the history of Weep unfold bit by bit in tiny little shards of knowledge was mesmerizing.
Other than the gods themselves, there were no characters that I didn’t like.
The only two who came close were Minya and Thyon, but even the two of them weren’t evil, they just lacked compassion.
And the dreams.
Laini Taylor’s writing truly encompasses and deserves the word “art.”
I have long wished that I could dive into the worlds I read about, and then there I was, reading about a world I wanted to dive into, and within that world they were doing the same thing.
The connection I felt to Lazlo and Sarai as they dove into dreams together and made their stories was one of the strongest I’ve ever felt with a character (or characters in this case).
I’m both excited and terrified to learn where the story, and the unseen city of Weep itself, go from here.
Content Warnings
Graphic: Suicidal thoughts, Genocide, Grief, Death, Death of parent, Domestic abuse, Kidnapping, Medical trauma, Misogyny, Pregnancy, Emotional abuse, Sexual violence, Sexual harassment, Abandonment, Physical abuse, Child death, Gore, Injury/Injury detail, Murder, Rape, Sexism, Sexual content, Sexual assault, Slavery, Torture, Toxic relationship, Trafficking, Violence, and War
Moderate: Body horror, Confinement, Adult/minor relationship, Blood, and Child abuse
Minor: Homophobia
nyree42's review against another edition
adventurous
challenging
dark
emotional
hopeful
mysterious
medium-paced
4.0
Beautifully written, magical and hopeful yet challenging and dark story about mysterious people with otherworldly and dangerous powers, and the city who fears them. Glad I read it when the second book is available to pick up immediately, since it ends on a cliffhanger.
On the negative side:
Note that the adult/minor relationship tag refers to a 20-year-old in a romantic relationship with a 17-year-old, which I personally think is close enough in age to be acceptable in the world of this story, although other readers may not agree, as in our real world it seems rather sus for a 3rd year college student to be dating an 11th grader in high school.
There are also descriptions of a sexually active 15-year-old with their teenage lover, plus mentions of another young couple who are sleeping together. All the teenage sex, despite not being graphically described but only alluded to artistically, was rather off-putting because an adult writer should not be encouraging her adolescent readers to engage in sex - it leads to consequences like STDs/STIs, unwanted pregnancies, and emotions that are too complicated for most young people to understand.
This inevitably results in broken hearts and emotional trauma in the majority of cases, which then leads to some (or many) people having difficulty finding love as adults because their teen romances ripped a hole in their heart they've not been able to repair so far. For real, I know people in their 50s who still haven't recovered from their adolescent entanglements and that's why they are single today... and that's why their would-be partner is also single. These are consequences that resulted in the unhappiness of two people (much like Eril-Fane and Azareen in this book, although in their case they had no choice in the matter).
So if you're a teenager reading this review - don't be inspired by the exploits of the young lovers in this book, and instead wait until you're older to chase... "that." You'll have more of a chance to mature and develop so that you also meet somebody mature who can give you the true love you'll want to receive and give in return.
On the negative side:
Note that the adult/minor relationship tag refers to a 20-year-old in a romantic relationship with a 17-year-old, which I personally think is close enough in age to be acceptable in the world of this story, although other readers may not agree, as in our real world it seems rather sus for a 3rd year college student to be dating an 11th grader in high school.
There are also descriptions of a sexually active 15-year-old with their teenage lover, plus mentions of another young couple who are sleeping together. All the teenage sex, despite not being graphically described but only alluded to artistically, was rather off-putting because an adult writer should not be encouraging her adolescent readers to engage in sex - it leads to consequences like STDs/STIs, unwanted pregnancies, and emotions that are too complicated for most young people to understand.
This inevitably results in broken hearts and emotional trauma in the majority of cases, which then leads to some (or many) people having difficulty finding love as adults because their teen romances ripped a hole in their heart they've not been able to repair so far. For real, I know people in their 50s who still haven't recovered from their adolescent entanglements and that's why they are single today... and that's why their would-be partner is also single. These are consequences that resulted in the unhappiness of two people (much like Eril-Fane and Azareen in this book, although in their case they had no choice in the matter).
So if you're a teenager reading this review - don't be inspired by the exploits of the young lovers in this book, and instead wait until you're older to chase... "that." You'll have more of a chance to mature and develop so that you also meet somebody mature who can give you the true love you'll want to receive and give in return.
Content Warnings
Graphic: Death, Emotional abuse, Adult/minor relationship, Blood, Racial slurs, Slavery, Toxic friendship, Bullying, Child abuse, Gore, Death of parent, Grief, Hate crime, Injury/Injury detail, Sexual content, Child death, Confinement, Genocide, Murder, and Racism
Moderate: Rape, Sexual assault, War, Misogyny, Sexism, Sexual harassment, Suicidal thoughts, and Violence
amallard's review against another edition
adventurous
lighthearted
mysterious
relaxing
fast-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? Plot
- Strong character development? No
- Loveable characters? It's complicated
- Diverse cast of characters? No
- Flaws of characters a main focus? No
2.25
I put this down as lighthearted but you might like to check the content warnings, because I get that folks who resonate with the writing may feel differently. To be clear - I'm not dismissing or downplaying these traumas. I am dismissing the way they were done here, please don't come for me, it just elicited nothing in me.
Revision: theadult/minor relationship did elicit something in me because wtf was that, lads, wtf wtf that was not cool but it was written as Something Beautiful.
Let me splat down the good. Imagery was a happening thing. Backstory was a smoothly-delivered thing. Dialogue was a frequently-fun thing. Mystery was a suspenseful thing.
Let me splat down the bad I could take. Imagery sometimes happened too much. Tropes sometimes delivered too stereotypically. Explanation was sometimes exposition. I run low. Let's move on.
What did I ardently dislike? Unmarked spoilers from here on out.
Look away if you don't want spoilers.
Look away.
Okay.
Returning to the point made above: a guy who has been raised with four girls his whole life says that they're like sisters to him...but not quite. He then proceeds to have sex with the littlest, who is fifteen. She's fifteen. I don't care if they gave her a fake birthday so she could pretend to be sixteen - she's fifteen. Also, as someone who was raised with not-brother brothers, this whole speel is so gross to me. What, are adopted siblings not siblings? Does biology trump everything? Are platonic bonds worthless? Is that the case here? They. Shared. A. Mother.
I don't like Sarai but I'm being brave about it. Passion brings a character to life, makes me care for them. Give them an interest. Give them a hobby. Let me know how they spend their quiet minutes, their free time when they can steal it. Lazlo had a passion, Minya had a passion, Calixte had a passion, Sparrow had a passion, even the "it-might-be-love-what-we-have" paedophile had a passion.
Luckily, so did Sarai. You're gonna call me hypocritical but hers was complaining. I'm a very positive and optimistic character on the whole, with a lot going for me; I assure you that my hobby is not. If you think I'm being harsh on this book, please remind yourself of the last paragraph.
My final issue. Maybe we can kick it off with an anecdote: at one point in this book, a girl forces a man to kiss her. He's deeply uncomfortable - no, more than that. He's in a very traumatic situation and she uses him against his will.
It's played for a laugh. It made me wonder if I was being too SJW about the whole thing. But it struck me as upsetting, and a dismissal of consent. If the roles had been reversed, it would have been blatantly wrong, right?
That excuse, that the perpetrator was a girl, ties into the heternormativity that permeates this. By default, the girls only think about kissing boys, the boys only think about wanting girls. Guys are masculine and strong. Girls are pure and chaste. There's a couple of token sapphics who break the mould, plus some dweeby dudes, but it's a deeply straight book.
I’m not “obsessed with forcing diversity” or “pushing an agenda” and i am not trying to overlay stories with my own false reading of queer-coding when it doesn’t exist. But it’s funny to me when a writer writes a book with homoerotic overtones, when all the coding is blatantly THERE, and then they try to do damage control. Please please believe me when I say this story felt like it was supposed to be gay.
We get introduced to Thyon Nero and he is magnificently beautiful and desperately alone with the truth of his sins and secrets, and he’s a prince but he carries the scars of his beatings, and Lazlo’s a pauper but he knows those wounds well, and when they meet in the present day there is an immense amount of fear fluttering between them, and nerves, and history, and disappointment. And there is a smart man, with an insight that rivals Lazlo’s, that grounds where his dreams. And there is a good man buried somewhere within him. And there is an interesting journey for him to take to that stage.
Look, there are intended enemies-to-lovers which have worse setups than this. It’s so natural. It’s the story offered that has a spark.
Did Taylor miss the opportunity? Did she have too many plans for the way things already went? Not much would have been lost if Lazlo and Sarai had been friends instead; on the contrary, I think an intense platonicism would have been so beautiful. He could have carried his lifeless friend’s body and its impact would not have been lost. She could have visited her friend’s dreams and their visions together would not have been diminished.
Revision: the
Let me splat down the good. Imagery was a happening thing. Backstory was a smoothly-delivered thing. Dialogue was a frequently-fun thing. Mystery was a suspenseful thing.
Let me splat down the bad I could take. Imagery sometimes happened too much. Tropes sometimes delivered too stereotypically. Explanation was sometimes exposition. I run low. Let's move on.
What did I ardently dislike? Unmarked spoilers from here on out.
Look away if you don't want spoilers.
Look away.
Okay.
Returning to the point made above: a guy who has been raised with four girls his whole life says that they're like sisters to him...but not quite. He then proceeds to have sex with the littlest, who is fifteen. She's fifteen. I don't care if they gave her a fake birthday so she could pretend to be sixteen - she's fifteen. Also, as someone who was raised with not-brother brothers, this whole speel is so gross to me. What, are adopted siblings not siblings? Does biology trump everything? Are platonic bonds worthless? Is that the case here? They. Shared. A. Mother.
I don't like Sarai but I'm being brave about it. Passion brings a character to life, makes me care for them. Give them an interest. Give them a hobby. Let me know how they spend their quiet minutes, their free time when they can steal it. Lazlo had a passion, Minya had a passion, Calixte had a passion, Sparrow had a passion, even the "it-might-be-love-what-we-have" paedophile had a passion.
Luckily, so did Sarai. You're gonna call me hypocritical but hers was complaining. I'm a very positive and optimistic character on the whole, with a lot going for me; I assure you that my hobby is not. If you think I'm being harsh on this book, please remind yourself of the last paragraph.
My final issue. Maybe we can kick it off with an anecdote: at one point in this book, a girl forces a man to kiss her. He's deeply uncomfortable - no, more than that. He's in a very traumatic situation and she uses him against his will.
It's played for a laugh. It made me wonder if I was being too SJW about the whole thing. But it struck me as upsetting, and a dismissal of consent. If the roles had been reversed, it would have been blatantly wrong, right?
That excuse, that the perpetrator was a girl, ties into the heternormativity that permeates this. By default, the girls only think about kissing boys, the boys only think about wanting girls. Guys are masculine and strong. Girls are pure and chaste. There's a couple of token sapphics who break the mould, plus some dweeby dudes, but it's a deeply straight book.
I’m not “obsessed with forcing diversity” or “pushing an agenda” and i am not trying to overlay stories with my own false reading of queer-coding when it doesn’t exist. But it’s funny to me when a writer writes a book with homoerotic overtones, when all the coding is blatantly THERE, and then they try to do damage control. Please please believe me when I say this story felt like it was supposed to be gay.
We get introduced to Thyon Nero and he is magnificently beautiful and desperately alone with the truth of his sins and secrets, and he’s a prince but he carries the scars of his beatings, and Lazlo’s a pauper but he knows those wounds well, and when they meet in the present day there is an immense amount of fear fluttering between them, and nerves, and history, and disappointment. And there is a smart man, with an insight that rivals Lazlo’s, that grounds where his dreams. And there is a good man buried somewhere within him. And there is an interesting journey for him to take to that stage.
Look, there are intended enemies-to-lovers which have worse setups than this. It’s so natural. It’s the story offered that has a spark.
Did Taylor miss the opportunity? Did she have too many plans for the way things already went? Not much would have been lost if Lazlo and Sarai had been friends instead; on the contrary, I think an intense platonicism would have been so beautiful. He could have carried his lifeless friend’s body and its impact would not have been lost. She could have visited her friend’s dreams and their visions together would not have been diminished.
Content Warnings
Moderate: Death, Adult/minor relationship, Xenophobia, Slavery, Racism, Rape, Blood, and Sexual violence
doodeedoda's review against another edition
adventurous
mysterious
slow-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? Yes
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
4.75
Content Warnings
Graphic: Toxic friendship, Pregnancy, Sexual assault, Sexual violence, Murder, Child death, Grief, and Rape
Moderate: Death and Death of parent
Minor: Adult/minor relationship and Blood
whatiskatelynreading's review
adventurous
emotional
hopeful
mysterious
tense
medium-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? Plot
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? Yes
5.0
Content Warnings
Graphic: Blood, Genocide, Grief, and Xenophobia
Moderate: Rape, Adult/minor relationship, and Child death
emkplatts's review
adventurous
emotional
hopeful
mysterious
reflective
medium-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? Character
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? Yes
- Diverse cast of characters? Yes
- Flaws of characters a main focus? No
3.5
I really liked this story and I didn't feel like it was too predictable! I like the commentary on hate in society and how it can infect generations and people who aren't directly impacted by an event. I also enjoyed the point of looking past the exterior of a person in order to get to know the person they truly are. I really love Lazlo's character and I'm predicting massive character growth for Thyon in the next book. I didn't give this five stars because I felt there were some writing choices that made the reading confusing at times. There were multiple times when pronouns were used in dialogue instead of names and I had to re-read passages multiple times in order to understand and because of that, I felt like I could only give it four stars. Can't wait to read the next!
Content Warnings
Moderate: Adult/minor relationship, Grief, Kidnapping, Rape, Sexual assault, Sexual content, Sexual violence, Slavery, and Toxic relationship
Minor: Physical abuse
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