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3.97 AVERAGE
3.97 AVERAGE
Umberto Ecos Fabulierlust ist einmalig. Dafür liebe ich ihn sehr. Mit dem Buch hier, hat er dennoch derbe meine Nerven strapaziert.
Das Buch ist mindestens 200 Seiten zu lang und furchtbar repetitiv. Ob Jesus nun kein Geld hatte oder doch, worauf sich die Streitigkeiten der Kirche begründen, bis hin zu Absplitterungen der Franziskaner, die als Häretiker verfolgt werden, weil sie sich der Askese verschreiben und wie man denn nun die ganzen Ketzer unterscheidet - darauf berufen sich etliche Dispute und Berichte in diesem Buch.
Die Dispute sind so dermaßen inszeniert und Holzhammer mäßig aufgezogen, dass es schmerzt. Noch nie ein Buch gelesen, in dem das Gerüst und Schema so durchschlägt und offensichtlich ist wie hier.
Das Ganze Getöse, als dann die heilige Inquisition eintrifft, war meines Erachtens auch völlig über.
Selbst die Todesfälle laufen sich irgendwann tot. Er überreizt sämtliche Erzählstränge- es ermüdet irgendwann nur noch. Und dann diese emotionale, aufgeladene Diskussionsart, die jedesmal hart an der Kitschgrenze entlang schrabbelt, wenn es wieder mächtig bedeutungsvoll/schwer zugeht.
Nochmal großes Plus für das Ende und die Aufklärung.
Durch die aufgeklärte Weltsicht William von Baskervilles und den eingeflochtenen philosophischen Gedanken, bekommen viele Themen eine enorme Aktualität, die das Buch stellenweise, zumindest inhaltlich zeitlos machen.
Das Buch ist mindestens 200 Seiten zu lang und furchtbar repetitiv. Ob Jesus nun kein Geld hatte oder doch, worauf sich die Streitigkeiten der Kirche begründen, bis hin zu Absplitterungen der Franziskaner, die als Häretiker verfolgt werden, weil sie sich der Askese verschreiben und wie man denn nun die ganzen Ketzer unterscheidet - darauf berufen sich etliche Dispute und Berichte in diesem Buch.
Die Dispute sind so dermaßen inszeniert und Holzhammer mäßig aufgezogen, dass es schmerzt. Noch nie ein Buch gelesen, in dem das Gerüst und Schema so durchschlägt und offensichtlich ist wie hier.
Das Ganze Getöse, als dann die heilige Inquisition eintrifft, war meines Erachtens auch völlig über.
Selbst die Todesfälle laufen sich irgendwann tot. Er überreizt sämtliche Erzählstränge- es ermüdet irgendwann nur noch. Und dann diese emotionale, aufgeladene Diskussionsart, die jedesmal hart an der Kitschgrenze entlang schrabbelt, wenn es wieder mächtig bedeutungsvoll/schwer zugeht.
Nochmal großes Plus für das Ende und die Aufklärung.
Durch die aufgeklärte Weltsicht William von Baskervilles und den eingeflochtenen philosophischen Gedanken, bekommen viele Themen eine enorme Aktualität, die das Buch stellenweise, zumindest inhaltlich zeitlos machen.
challenging
dark
reflective
sad
medium-paced
Plot or Character Driven:
A mix
Strong character development:
Yes
Loveable characters:
Yes
Diverse cast of characters:
No
Flaws of characters a main focus:
Complicated
A brilliant deconstruction of modernism's quest for truth through the prism of the detective novel transplanted into a medieval monastery. While William and Adso think they are navigating the labyrinth of the Aedificium towards its exit, they are in fact enmeshed in a Deleuzian rhizome, in which all paths connect infinitely, and there is no escape. William embodies both a burgeoning modern logic in the wake of Roger Bacon and William of Occam, and simultaneously a post-modern deconstruction of that logic. In the search for knowledge and the rooting out of heretics, the reader finds obvious parallels to contemporary political conflicts, yet every detail in the text is extremely rooted in its particular medieval cosmology. That the mystery converges on the idea of humor as an existential threat to the Church is strange and yet fully supported by the apocalyptic worldview you have entered into. This is a narrative about narratives, in which sexual ecstasy is expressed through recited biblical metaphor and nightmares through parodic medieval romances:
"Now I realized that not infrequently books speak of books: it is as if they spoke among themselves. In the light of this reflection, the library seemed all the more disturbing to me. It was then the place of a long, centuries-old murmuring, an imperceptible dialogue between one parchment and another, a living thing, a receptacle of powers not to be ruled by a human mind, a treasure of secrets emanated by many minds, surviving the death of those who had produced them or had been their conveyors."
"Moral: There exist obsessive ideas, they are never personal; books talk among themselves, and any true detection should prove that we are the guilty party."
"Now I realized that not infrequently books speak of books: it is as if they spoke among themselves. In the light of this reflection, the library seemed all the more disturbing to me. It was then the place of a long, centuries-old murmuring, an imperceptible dialogue between one parchment and another, a living thing, a receptacle of powers not to be ruled by a human mind, a treasure of secrets emanated by many minds, surviving the death of those who had produced them or had been their conveyors."
"Moral: There exist obsessive ideas, they are never personal; books talk among themselves, and any true detection should prove that we are the guilty party."
challenging
dark
informative
mysterious
reflective
slow-paced
Plot or Character Driven:
A mix
Strong character development:
No
Loveable characters:
No
Diverse cast of characters:
No
Flaws of characters a main focus:
Complicated
It’s a relief that one could become a best seller against all odds, and that a genuine piece of literature could surpass cheap trash…high quality and success do not exclude each other. (Cit. Antony Burgess)
adventurous
informative
mysterious
medium-paced
Plot or Character Driven:
Plot
Strong character development:
No
Loveable characters:
Complicated
Diverse cast of characters:
Yes
Flaws of characters a main focus:
No
challenging
mysterious
reflective
slow-paced
Plot or Character Driven:
A mix
Strong character development:
No
Loveable characters:
Yes
Diverse cast of characters:
Yes
Flaws of characters a main focus:
No
A fantastic work of art. This book will thoroughly immerse the reader into the life of medieval monastics. The story takes place over five days and the happenings of each day is illustrated in great detail, covering conversations among the monks, from mundane discussions on theology and philosophy to the heresies, inquisitions, secular and ecclesiastical power dynamics that characterised the fourteenth century European milieu. Umberto Eco makes good use of his knowledge of semiotics, in leading the readers to uncover the mystery of the murder case, hidden beneath signs and symbols, adding to the suspense and mystique of the abbey library - the aedificium, a massive labyrinth where large collections of books are contained.
What a great read, thoroughly enjoyed this one, I was hesitant because I started it years ago and couldn't get into it but finally decided to give it a good go, and was very well rewarded.
A fun, enjoyable and very smart plot. You do need to pay attention, there is a lot of detail and chatter. Somewhat dense in parts with the explanations of William, certainly enjoys the sound of his voice. That was the only negative for me lots of meandering with William giving his explanations.
The book has a film version too and having just watched the trailer, it looks so bad it could be good. I may give that a miss.
This is my first book I have read by Umberto Eco, I do have two others of his Baudolino and Foucaults Pendulum. I might bump Foucaults Pendulum up the to read list after finishing this one.
4.5/5 rounded up.
A fun, enjoyable and very smart plot. You do need to pay attention, there is a lot of detail and chatter. Somewhat dense in parts with the explanations of William, certainly enjoys the sound of his voice. That was the only negative for me lots of meandering with William giving his explanations.
The book has a film version too and having just watched the trailer, it looks so bad it could be good. I may give that a miss.
This is my first book I have read by Umberto Eco, I do have two others of his Baudolino and Foucaults Pendulum. I might bump Foucaults Pendulum up the to read list after finishing this one.
4.5/5 rounded up.